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it seems to me that the subject heading following Mexican should be "American" rather than "European". What would European be rather then Spanish-Mexican or American. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 20:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Nice to see you again. Anglo-A is fine. So is this article just for Native art? If so, it should be reflected in the title. Otherwise the Taos School aka Taos Society of Artists and all those Anglos will end up here.
I'm wondering about copyright issues. I think anything done after 1923, except if there is some WPA art, is possibly under copyright. Or do we just forge ahead and let the river flow whre it may? Carptrash ( talk) 01:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Wooah. You move fast. I was thinking about Pablita Velarde. I have pictures (somewhere) of some murals she did in Albuquerque, and was wondering about the one in this article. It seems to have been done while she was employed by the Federal Govt., in which case it is in the public domain. I doubt that this is true about Maria Martinez's pot. As I understanding it, images of works located in museums are owned by the artist or their heirs. So that pot was done in 1929 so could conceivable still be under copyright. Or might not be. Even images of statues in public places are covered by copyright. The USA is sort of an anomaly in this respect, in Europe, for example, if a work is in a public place it is fair game. I have been collecting images of works by Bob Houzous, Allan Houser's son, which are all over Santa Fe (an hour away), but am going to have to find and contact him in order to use them here. Both father and son would be nice additions to the article because they bring the article right up to now. Carptrash ( talk) 17:12, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
I grabbed one of the images on your page (1874, so no copyright issues) and stuck it here [1]. Let's see how long that lasts. Oddly, the last image on that page is mine. I noticed the kokopelli shot here - that acknowledgment is fun for now, it doesn't have to go along with the article when it is posted. Carptrash ( talk) 17:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
There were some items removed because the artwork was said to be external to the Southwest.
1. Ute Indians were said to be of the Great Basin and not the Southwest, yet in prehistory the Utes ranged over Colorado and are the only Native American tribe to have reservations in Colorado: The Southern Ute Indian Reservation and the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe reservation. 2. Ledger Art was removed because it was considered primarily Plains Indian work of art, but the example shown was of the Sand Creek Massacre, which was in southeastern Colorado. I have read that Ledger Art sprang up in the plains, but was it unique to the plains?
Does anyone have an opinion about whether or not Ute Indian artwork or Ledger Art should be included here?
By the way, I've been using roughly the Four Corners definition of Southwest from the Southwestern United States article.-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 07:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Sources that include Utes in Southwestern art collections include:
Does that help, or do we need some more citations? Thanks!-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 15:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Regarding "BTW whenever the contemporary section gets developed, Michael Horse could be added, since he's probably the only notable ledger artist from SW tribes. -Uyvsdi (talk) 04:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi:
I see that we've introduced short citations ( Help:Shortened footnotes). I have no preference how we notate citations / references / bibliography, but it would be great to get agreement so that there is consistency throughout the article.
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Any votes for how we should handle this article? Thanks!-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 02:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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it seems to me that the subject heading following Mexican should be "American" rather than "European". What would European be rather then Spanish-Mexican or American. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 20:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Nice to see you again. Anglo-A is fine. So is this article just for Native art? If so, it should be reflected in the title. Otherwise the Taos School aka Taos Society of Artists and all those Anglos will end up here.
I'm wondering about copyright issues. I think anything done after 1923, except if there is some WPA art, is possibly under copyright. Or do we just forge ahead and let the river flow whre it may? Carptrash ( talk) 01:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Wooah. You move fast. I was thinking about Pablita Velarde. I have pictures (somewhere) of some murals she did in Albuquerque, and was wondering about the one in this article. It seems to have been done while she was employed by the Federal Govt., in which case it is in the public domain. I doubt that this is true about Maria Martinez's pot. As I understanding it, images of works located in museums are owned by the artist or their heirs. So that pot was done in 1929 so could conceivable still be under copyright. Or might not be. Even images of statues in public places are covered by copyright. The USA is sort of an anomaly in this respect, in Europe, for example, if a work is in a public place it is fair game. I have been collecting images of works by Bob Houzous, Allan Houser's son, which are all over Santa Fe (an hour away), but am going to have to find and contact him in order to use them here. Both father and son would be nice additions to the article because they bring the article right up to now. Carptrash ( talk) 17:12, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
I grabbed one of the images on your page (1874, so no copyright issues) and stuck it here [1]. Let's see how long that lasts. Oddly, the last image on that page is mine. I noticed the kokopelli shot here - that acknowledgment is fun for now, it doesn't have to go along with the article when it is posted. Carptrash ( talk) 17:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
There were some items removed because the artwork was said to be external to the Southwest.
1. Ute Indians were said to be of the Great Basin and not the Southwest, yet in prehistory the Utes ranged over Colorado and are the only Native American tribe to have reservations in Colorado: The Southern Ute Indian Reservation and the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe reservation. 2. Ledger Art was removed because it was considered primarily Plains Indian work of art, but the example shown was of the Sand Creek Massacre, which was in southeastern Colorado. I have read that Ledger Art sprang up in the plains, but was it unique to the plains?
Does anyone have an opinion about whether or not Ute Indian artwork or Ledger Art should be included here?
By the way, I've been using roughly the Four Corners definition of Southwest from the Southwestern United States article.-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 07:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Sources that include Utes in Southwestern art collections include:
Does that help, or do we need some more citations? Thanks!-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 15:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Regarding "BTW whenever the contemporary section gets developed, Michael Horse could be added, since he's probably the only notable ledger artist from SW tribes. -Uyvsdi (talk) 04:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi:
I see that we've introduced short citations ( Help:Shortened footnotes). I have no preference how we notate citations / references / bibliography, but it would be great to get agreement so that there is consistency throughout the article.
When a new section is started (References) to capture many uses of the same source, there are different schools of opinion about:
Any votes for how we should handle this article? Thanks!-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 02:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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