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The article states: "Bell's suit stated that several witnesses had reported hearing Oates accuse Bell of pedophilia. This was proven to be 100% false."
I'm concerned that the wording may be somewhat confusing to some readers. What was proven to be 100% false? Oates' reported accusation? Or, that witnesses had reported hearing Oates accuse Bell? As it's written, it suggests the latter, as the subject in the preceding sentence is actually Bell's suit, and not Oates' accusation. But, the citation given actually confirms the former, not the latter. Of course, most casual readers don't follow citations. I would suggest, for the purposes of clarity, a change along the lines of, perhaps:
"Bell's suit stated that several witnesses had reported hearing Oates accuse Bell of pedophilia. The court found that the accusations of pedophilia were both false and defamatory." ? 99.246.125.63 ( talk) 23:34, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
As a person who never heard of this guy till now, may I ask the following questions:
If she's notable, let's hear all about it. Otherwise, I suggest removing all references to her. JackofOz 12:18, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I have a question of attribution. In the broadcast career section it mentions that he worked at KMST. While it does not give exact dates, other close-by dates make it appear as though it was roughly in the mid 1970s. I worked at KMST from 1973 to 1978. He did not work there during those years. Is there a more exact time period from whomever added that section? Onramp ( talk) 21:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I believe that Art was a 911 dispatcher. It would be good to confirm this and add it.
The following was added to this article:
However, no source was provided. Can we get a source for this please? - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Why has reference to the kidnapping of Art Bell's son been removed from this article? I started reading about it a few weeks ago and came back to read what happened. I cannot understand how this article could provide so much information on strangeness associated with this man (accusations, etc) yet not include one of the most valid and terrifying experiences of his life. Can someone with the know-how (I dont know how) restore this information? Thank you. 24.188.207.20 ( talk) 00:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Is Art's current wife younger than some of his own children? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.217.137.183 ( talk) 20:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
There's some talk under Events of 2010-11 that he's posting on a Facebook. I can't seem to find an Art Bell account that backs this information up, can we get a link to Art Bell's Facebook with the alleged posts? Hukt own fonikz ( talk) 15:32, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
This section falls foul of WP:TRIVIA and needs tidying. 92.251.137.49 ( talk) 21:08, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Art announced the following on his Facebook page tonight:
"liver cancer, 3 to 6 months to live."
It's either true or his account was hacked. Please don't add this to the article until it can be verified with a reliable source. Freshfighter9 talk 23:57, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Infobox lists wife "Sukiyaki Sakamoto Kyo Bell (dates uncertain; divorced)", while the marriages section does not. Discuss. - Stevertigo ( t | c) 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to share a couple thoughts on the article:
I dont know if we can get the "real" art bell to said if the info is right or wrong or have a newspaper and or a tv person to interview art to get the facts about what's really going on. -- Thunderpilot ( talk) 00:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I agree. I prefer to have other source of info like from cnn, foxnews etc and or a major newspaper for example to be the source because it is easy to check the facts. Anyone can "be anyone" on the net like facebook or a forum. I maybe a little oldschool on this topic.-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 17:20, 23 January 2013 (UTC) I remove the paragraph from the www.coastgab.com because there is no prove it was from the real art bell.-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 22:30, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
The moderator can "make any account" and say its the real person. As I am moderator of a few fourms. The moderator at coastgab.com Cant really prove it. As I said in the above comments, We need to have the facts from a real source like foxnews, cnn, a major news network and/or a newpaper. If the moderator at coastgab.com(which is MV)he can contect me at wiki.-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 01:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
It must be stated with insistence, that Thunderpilot desire for major media quotes regarding Art Bell's statements regarding the developments occurring in January, are to merely promote his own website and his ego. Thunderpilot is suspected as being a well known and ridiculed troll on Coastgab. His indentity and the identity of his sock pocket accounts are obvious because of his broken English and poor syntax and many, many spelling errors. Thunderpilot must be held accountable for his vandalism of Art Bells Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.167.34 ( talk) 10:32, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
It should be apparent to any reasonable admin that Thunderbolt is exercising an agenda and should be sanctioned. Threatening is NOT acceptable! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.171.228 ( talk) 00:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
@Brianann Thanks-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 08:19, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Thunderpilot is precisely why I am no longer an active admin. He has an agenda and the agenda includes famewhoring, discrediting folks who disagree with him on this and other sites and lastly to drive traffic to his own website. I am willing to speak to the CIA about this and submit my computer to a search by the NSA. Let him go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.175.234.86 ( talk) 08:25, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I just removed two things because of the lack of proof. if someone can provide some more proof about his wife visa problems and his online streaming with Kieth Rowland that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capt Hawk ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
There was a post that Art Bell posted in bellgab.com. My question is how do we know its the real art bell or someone pretending to be art bell. anyone can create an account using any username and pretend to be anyone. Capt Hawk ( talk) 16:54, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
when u google art bell, the summary over on the right ("infobox"?) says "Education: Harvard". i see no sign of this in his bio, nor even in google's own results.
what generates that section? until now, i thought maybe it came from wiki. 209.172.25.34 ( talk) 03:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Is he really best known for suggesting the Boston bombings are a hoax, of was that just the sheer laziness of the author to look into his other claims to infamy? One, He'[s the guy who interviewed Charlie Sheen when he had his meltdown talking about Tiger Blood and "winning." He's also one of the leaders of the so called "9/11 Truth movement." His gun debate with Pierce Morgan is another thing that got WAY more press than anything he said about the Boston bombings...it's just an ignorant comment all around. Jones has been in and out of the news for the last decade, long before the Boston bombing. 184.99.140.108 ( talk) 08:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
We recently had a string of IP editors, all trying to add the same BLP-violating claim. I requested and received semi-protection for the article, hopefully that will take care of the problem. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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Maybe later on, but in 1945 Art Bell's mother was a USMC drill instructor? Has this been verified?
Please see the following article regarding the history of women in the Marines:
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I would think that a female service member would have been discharged then upon pregnancy. According to the article, female Marines weren't even integrated from the reserves into the regular Corps until 1948 HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 23:46, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I hate to say it, but this article is terrible. The structure is terrible, flipping between history and more general topics, it should be put in historical order and have sections at the end for an overview of his life, personal life sections etc. Also, the article is dominated by one liners about something he said on one of his shows (normally with no source). This includes the interminable retire/return cycle that is almost unreadable. We really need to pare down the descriptions of his shows to the most notable or provide a summary. Finding sources that aren't just the episodes themselves would go a long way to helping determine what is worth putting into an encyclopedia article. Ashmoo ( talk) 10:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
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Hi-I am very concern about adding the names of Art Bell's parents, spouses, etc., to the article. Wikipedia's Biographies of Living Persons has guidelines. I had added a citation about his birthplace and removed his parents names because of the BLP concern only to have the names were inserted again in the article. The citation about his birthplace is still in place. Because of BLP concerns the names of his parents, spouses, children, etc., should be removed. Thank you- RFD ( talk) 21:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
http:// youtu . be / fkz-dFRYT-E
http:// www . youtube . com / watch?v=fkz-dFRYT-E
Zeryphex ( talk) 07:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I think this description might need some re-examination, although properly referenced, this label has a different connotation in our current era from when that reference was initially published. AM radio and "conspiracies" evoke the image of right-wing or anti-government programming, his show was a platform that allowed alternative or fringe viewpoints but he certainly didn't condone or allow anything of that nature. He was dispassionate, IMHO, WRT to the subject matter of his guests, and there's nothing to suggest that he subscribed to or promoted any single position of his guests. He dealt with a very broad range of topics and as long as the guest wasn't espousing offensive viewpoints he afford them all an equal platform to speak.
He had guests ranging from the president of PETA, to UFO conspiracists, to Catholic exorcists. Offering a platform doesn't mean you subscribe to any particular point of view, and doesn't make one a conspiracy theorist, any more than the New York Times is a "conspiracy" publication for discussing the musings of Donald Trump. He offered a platform, and nothing more. 108.200.234.93 ( talk) 05:16, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
It is true that alternate / fringe/ wild-eyed etc. theories of how the world really works were very much the preserve of the (far) left in the 70s / 80s and that there has been a sea change during the 90s / 00s toward the current mostly rightwing slant on conspiracies. Numerous factors can be cited to explain this. One this that populist disenchantment and paranoia is intrinsically ideologically shallow, and simply finds a home where it can or is welcomed in. Another is that the left had since the late 19th century championed a progression of society towards a different arrangement or set of basic premisses, which was a natural fit for alternative views, whereas the right was associated with staunch conservation of the established order. What factors explain the shift? One is the advance of the internet, in which the alternatively minded find that they are not always a good fit and cannot form a larger, homogeneous aggregate; in particular, what Trump so memorably called "the 2nd amendment people" do not always espouse enlightened ideas regarding civil rights and equality. To some extent this is coextensive with the rural/urban split. A related factor is that wealthy plutocrats must needs, in a democracy, create a distraction and saw an opportunity; Newt Gingrich stands out as perhaps not the engineer, then certainly a major symptom of the change. Yet another related factor is that, rather paradoxically, at least some progressive ideas have become the new normal for an overwhelming majority of the population, and if we regard the marginalised skeptic as a psychological profile, he will now find solace with extreme conservatism: he is told that the established order is left-wing or "liberal" (American use of this term is highly odd from a world-historical perspective, but that's another story) and as his basic contrarian need is to belong to the few who can see what is really going on, his politics follows suit. A final factor I might mention is that is has become very difficult to feel special in our highly connected world: our collective mind has become schizophrenic as regards maths, science, and technology, which are more powerful and important than ever and consequently a greater insult to the self-esteem of those who cannot keep up. Back in the day, it seemed easier to scoff at the one or two kids in the class who got the highest grades; now they seem destined to govern your life in ways that you can hardly begin to comprehend (the term nerd underwent a concurrent change: initially it was the sort of unfashionable loser who would understand computers and whatnot, now it is somebody who is into gaming --- if you were a teenager in the 80s, it is strange indeed so see that "nerdy" has become a sexy theme in porn, alongside French maid and schoolgirl). The response has been a marked uptick in magical thinking among the general population, which has subsumed the paranormal. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:F02A:633E:F3E5:B8E1 ( talk) 09:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
JC or Jonathan Christian Webster was a comical caller in Art Bell's shows. Check Jonathan Christian Webster and Art Bell & JC Webster İ Philosophy of Life Radio Personality and God's TEN Star General!— AnnaBruta ( talk) 18:11, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Art Bell said numerous times on air over the years that he was born at Camp Lejeune. One such broadcast where he says it is on the 1996-05-10 - Coast to Coast AM Open Lines episode. His own words are far more trustworthy and more of a reliable source than some secondhand source who writes substandard books and pseudo encyclopedias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChonokisFigueroa ( talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
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The article states: "Bell's suit stated that several witnesses had reported hearing Oates accuse Bell of pedophilia. This was proven to be 100% false."
I'm concerned that the wording may be somewhat confusing to some readers. What was proven to be 100% false? Oates' reported accusation? Or, that witnesses had reported hearing Oates accuse Bell? As it's written, it suggests the latter, as the subject in the preceding sentence is actually Bell's suit, and not Oates' accusation. But, the citation given actually confirms the former, not the latter. Of course, most casual readers don't follow citations. I would suggest, for the purposes of clarity, a change along the lines of, perhaps:
"Bell's suit stated that several witnesses had reported hearing Oates accuse Bell of pedophilia. The court found that the accusations of pedophilia were both false and defamatory." ? 99.246.125.63 ( talk) 23:34, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
As a person who never heard of this guy till now, may I ask the following questions:
If she's notable, let's hear all about it. Otherwise, I suggest removing all references to her. JackofOz 12:18, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I have a question of attribution. In the broadcast career section it mentions that he worked at KMST. While it does not give exact dates, other close-by dates make it appear as though it was roughly in the mid 1970s. I worked at KMST from 1973 to 1978. He did not work there during those years. Is there a more exact time period from whomever added that section? Onramp ( talk) 21:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I believe that Art was a 911 dispatcher. It would be good to confirm this and add it.
The following was added to this article:
However, no source was provided. Can we get a source for this please? - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Why has reference to the kidnapping of Art Bell's son been removed from this article? I started reading about it a few weeks ago and came back to read what happened. I cannot understand how this article could provide so much information on strangeness associated with this man (accusations, etc) yet not include one of the most valid and terrifying experiences of his life. Can someone with the know-how (I dont know how) restore this information? Thank you. 24.188.207.20 ( talk) 00:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Is Art's current wife younger than some of his own children? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.217.137.183 ( talk) 20:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
There's some talk under Events of 2010-11 that he's posting on a Facebook. I can't seem to find an Art Bell account that backs this information up, can we get a link to Art Bell's Facebook with the alleged posts? Hukt own fonikz ( talk) 15:32, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
This section falls foul of WP:TRIVIA and needs tidying. 92.251.137.49 ( talk) 21:08, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Art announced the following on his Facebook page tonight:
"liver cancer, 3 to 6 months to live."
It's either true or his account was hacked. Please don't add this to the article until it can be verified with a reliable source. Freshfighter9 talk 23:57, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Infobox lists wife "Sukiyaki Sakamoto Kyo Bell (dates uncertain; divorced)", while the marriages section does not. Discuss. - Stevertigo ( t | c) 08:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to share a couple thoughts on the article:
I dont know if we can get the "real" art bell to said if the info is right or wrong or have a newspaper and or a tv person to interview art to get the facts about what's really going on. -- Thunderpilot ( talk) 00:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I agree. I prefer to have other source of info like from cnn, foxnews etc and or a major newspaper for example to be the source because it is easy to check the facts. Anyone can "be anyone" on the net like facebook or a forum. I maybe a little oldschool on this topic.-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 17:20, 23 January 2013 (UTC) I remove the paragraph from the www.coastgab.com because there is no prove it was from the real art bell.-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 22:30, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
The moderator can "make any account" and say its the real person. As I am moderator of a few fourms. The moderator at coastgab.com Cant really prove it. As I said in the above comments, We need to have the facts from a real source like foxnews, cnn, a major news network and/or a newpaper. If the moderator at coastgab.com(which is MV)he can contect me at wiki.-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 01:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
It must be stated with insistence, that Thunderpilot desire for major media quotes regarding Art Bell's statements regarding the developments occurring in January, are to merely promote his own website and his ego. Thunderpilot is suspected as being a well known and ridiculed troll on Coastgab. His indentity and the identity of his sock pocket accounts are obvious because of his broken English and poor syntax and many, many spelling errors. Thunderpilot must be held accountable for his vandalism of Art Bells Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.167.34 ( talk) 10:32, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
It should be apparent to any reasonable admin that Thunderbolt is exercising an agenda and should be sanctioned. Threatening is NOT acceptable! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.171.228 ( talk) 00:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
@Brianann Thanks-- Thunderpilot ( talk) 08:19, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Thunderpilot is precisely why I am no longer an active admin. He has an agenda and the agenda includes famewhoring, discrediting folks who disagree with him on this and other sites and lastly to drive traffic to his own website. I am willing to speak to the CIA about this and submit my computer to a search by the NSA. Let him go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.175.234.86 ( talk) 08:25, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I just removed two things because of the lack of proof. if someone can provide some more proof about his wife visa problems and his online streaming with Kieth Rowland that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capt Hawk ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
There was a post that Art Bell posted in bellgab.com. My question is how do we know its the real art bell or someone pretending to be art bell. anyone can create an account using any username and pretend to be anyone. Capt Hawk ( talk) 16:54, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
when u google art bell, the summary over on the right ("infobox"?) says "Education: Harvard". i see no sign of this in his bio, nor even in google's own results.
what generates that section? until now, i thought maybe it came from wiki. 209.172.25.34 ( talk) 03:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Is he really best known for suggesting the Boston bombings are a hoax, of was that just the sheer laziness of the author to look into his other claims to infamy? One, He'[s the guy who interviewed Charlie Sheen when he had his meltdown talking about Tiger Blood and "winning." He's also one of the leaders of the so called "9/11 Truth movement." His gun debate with Pierce Morgan is another thing that got WAY more press than anything he said about the Boston bombings...it's just an ignorant comment all around. Jones has been in and out of the news for the last decade, long before the Boston bombing. 184.99.140.108 ( talk) 08:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
We recently had a string of IP editors, all trying to add the same BLP-violating claim. I requested and received semi-protection for the article, hopefully that will take care of the problem. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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Maybe later on, but in 1945 Art Bell's mother was a USMC drill instructor? Has this been verified?
Please see the following article regarding the history of women in the Marines:
http://marineparents.com/marinecorps/women-marines.asp
I would think that a female service member would have been discharged then upon pregnancy. According to the article, female Marines weren't even integrated from the reserves into the regular Corps until 1948 HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 23:46, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I hate to say it, but this article is terrible. The structure is terrible, flipping between history and more general topics, it should be put in historical order and have sections at the end for an overview of his life, personal life sections etc. Also, the article is dominated by one liners about something he said on one of his shows (normally with no source). This includes the interminable retire/return cycle that is almost unreadable. We really need to pare down the descriptions of his shows to the most notable or provide a summary. Finding sources that aren't just the episodes themselves would go a long way to helping determine what is worth putting into an encyclopedia article. Ashmoo ( talk) 10:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
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Hi-I am very concern about adding the names of Art Bell's parents, spouses, etc., to the article. Wikipedia's Biographies of Living Persons has guidelines. I had added a citation about his birthplace and removed his parents names because of the BLP concern only to have the names were inserted again in the article. The citation about his birthplace is still in place. Because of BLP concerns the names of his parents, spouses, children, etc., should be removed. Thank you- RFD ( talk) 21:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
http:// youtu . be / fkz-dFRYT-E
http:// www . youtube . com / watch?v=fkz-dFRYT-E
Zeryphex ( talk) 07:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I think this description might need some re-examination, although properly referenced, this label has a different connotation in our current era from when that reference was initially published. AM radio and "conspiracies" evoke the image of right-wing or anti-government programming, his show was a platform that allowed alternative or fringe viewpoints but he certainly didn't condone or allow anything of that nature. He was dispassionate, IMHO, WRT to the subject matter of his guests, and there's nothing to suggest that he subscribed to or promoted any single position of his guests. He dealt with a very broad range of topics and as long as the guest wasn't espousing offensive viewpoints he afford them all an equal platform to speak.
He had guests ranging from the president of PETA, to UFO conspiracists, to Catholic exorcists. Offering a platform doesn't mean you subscribe to any particular point of view, and doesn't make one a conspiracy theorist, any more than the New York Times is a "conspiracy" publication for discussing the musings of Donald Trump. He offered a platform, and nothing more. 108.200.234.93 ( talk) 05:16, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
It is true that alternate / fringe/ wild-eyed etc. theories of how the world really works were very much the preserve of the (far) left in the 70s / 80s and that there has been a sea change during the 90s / 00s toward the current mostly rightwing slant on conspiracies. Numerous factors can be cited to explain this. One this that populist disenchantment and paranoia is intrinsically ideologically shallow, and simply finds a home where it can or is welcomed in. Another is that the left had since the late 19th century championed a progression of society towards a different arrangement or set of basic premisses, which was a natural fit for alternative views, whereas the right was associated with staunch conservation of the established order. What factors explain the shift? One is the advance of the internet, in which the alternatively minded find that they are not always a good fit and cannot form a larger, homogeneous aggregate; in particular, what Trump so memorably called "the 2nd amendment people" do not always espouse enlightened ideas regarding civil rights and equality. To some extent this is coextensive with the rural/urban split. A related factor is that wealthy plutocrats must needs, in a democracy, create a distraction and saw an opportunity; Newt Gingrich stands out as perhaps not the engineer, then certainly a major symptom of the change. Yet another related factor is that, rather paradoxically, at least some progressive ideas have become the new normal for an overwhelming majority of the population, and if we regard the marginalised skeptic as a psychological profile, he will now find solace with extreme conservatism: he is told that the established order is left-wing or "liberal" (American use of this term is highly odd from a world-historical perspective, but that's another story) and as his basic contrarian need is to belong to the few who can see what is really going on, his politics follows suit. A final factor I might mention is that is has become very difficult to feel special in our highly connected world: our collective mind has become schizophrenic as regards maths, science, and technology, which are more powerful and important than ever and consequently a greater insult to the self-esteem of those who cannot keep up. Back in the day, it seemed easier to scoff at the one or two kids in the class who got the highest grades; now they seem destined to govern your life in ways that you can hardly begin to comprehend (the term nerd underwent a concurrent change: initially it was the sort of unfashionable loser who would understand computers and whatnot, now it is somebody who is into gaming --- if you were a teenager in the 80s, it is strange indeed so see that "nerdy" has become a sexy theme in porn, alongside French maid and schoolgirl). The response has been a marked uptick in magical thinking among the general population, which has subsumed the paranormal. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:F02A:633E:F3E5:B8E1 ( talk) 09:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
JC or Jonathan Christian Webster was a comical caller in Art Bell's shows. Check Jonathan Christian Webster and Art Bell & JC Webster İ Philosophy of Life Radio Personality and God's TEN Star General!— AnnaBruta ( talk) 18:11, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Art Bell said numerous times on air over the years that he was born at Camp Lejeune. One such broadcast where he says it is on the 1996-05-10 - Coast to Coast AM Open Lines episode. His own words are far more trustworthy and more of a reliable source than some secondhand source who writes substandard books and pseudo encyclopedias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChonokisFigueroa ( talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 February 2022 (UTC)