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There is no such rank as podpraporschik in russian military, look here: Talk:Russian military ranks#Podpraporshchik/Bootsman. -- DimaY2K 16:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
The US rank equivalents need to be fixed for both the Army and the Air Force. There are only three US junior or company grade officers, not four as in the Russian Army. This will result in one of the Russian officer ranks having no US equivalent, but I'm not sure which would be the best Russian rank to skip. Also, the rank insignia of two gold bars does not exist in the US military. The proper title and insignia for US company grade officers are:
Nicholas F 05:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Similar issue. Based on the description of Russian praporashchiks elsewhere on Wiki, the comparison between a Russian WO and a US WO are incorrect. The comparison would probably be more accurate to relate the praporashchiks to US senior NCOs, i.e. E-8 and E-9, considering US warrant officers are completely merged into the total officer system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PushkinsBarber ( talk • contribs) 08:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
There seem to be two problems with the insignia that I believe was copied from http://www.uniforminsignia.net/index.php?p=state&id=123
First, the isnignia for a General of the Army actualy belongs to a militsiya officer, as the color of the shoulder board is grey. It's probably not much of a problem because officer insignia for MVD is very much similar to the army and Internal Troops one, but enlisted insignia differs substantially, not to mention that latter are technically the military while the militsiya is the police forces.
Then, the golden parade shoulder board of a Major has an all-forces emblem, which is not necessary at all (only used by medics and justice generals wear shoulder board insignia, because sleeve insignia has one same emblem for all generals). But the white shoulder board of a colonel has no emblem, which is not right because white/green shirts are missing sleeve insingia so the emblem moves to the shoulder boards. -- DmitryKo 16:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I think we should remove comperison between russian and american ranks since it is not the purpuse of this article, and if someone wants to do it they should create partucular article. -- DimaY2K 10:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Do the 'Praporshchik' (Master Non-Commissioned Officer) ranks officially correspond with US Chief Warrant Officers who are commissioned by the US President and are classed as Officers? -- LONDON 13:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
What does the "VS" stand for on the Other Ranks' insignia? 202.89.153.228 01:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Why did you edit the article Army ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation to say that the Russian rank Major General was equivalent to the US rank Major General, rather than the US rank Brigadier General? The article said that the Russian rank of Major General was equivalent to the US rank of Brigadier General, and it gave a source of Harriet Fast Scott and William F. Scott, The Armed Forces of the USSR, Westview Press, Boulder, Colorado, 1979, Appendix B. - Shaheenjim 19:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I think that rank comparisons ought to be avoided altogether. It is almost impossible to achieve perfect grade-for-grade equivalency at the best of times, let alone a comparison between systems that are so different. A better alternative is to show the ranks with their commensurate command appointments, but it's sufficient to just categorise rank groupings (Marshals & Generals, Field Officers, Company Officers, etc.) It is also questionable to use American ranks for comparison, because in this case the American way of doing something - as usual - is the exception, not the rule. The rank comparison article that is cited is WRONG. Rank comparisons must be determined according to function, rather than superficial nonsense like the number of stars, or how many grades there are between certain ranks. There is no Russian equivalent of Brig-Gen, and such a rank is unnecessary anyway. Japan, for example, does without it too. Brigade-size formations are commanded by colonels in both the Russian and American armies, and division-size formations are commanded by major-generals in both the Russian and American armies (there is no formation between brigade and division). Ergo, Russian and American major-generals are basically equivalent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.223.81 ( talk) 14:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Gefreiter is the German rank, I think Efreitor is a more correct latinized version of Russian "Ефрейтор" ( translit: "Yefreytor"). 95.69.152.59 ( talk) 10:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC) UeArtemis
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There is no such rank as podpraporschik in russian military, look here: Talk:Russian military ranks#Podpraporshchik/Bootsman. -- DimaY2K 16:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
The US rank equivalents need to be fixed for both the Army and the Air Force. There are only three US junior or company grade officers, not four as in the Russian Army. This will result in one of the Russian officer ranks having no US equivalent, but I'm not sure which would be the best Russian rank to skip. Also, the rank insignia of two gold bars does not exist in the US military. The proper title and insignia for US company grade officers are:
Nicholas F 05:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Similar issue. Based on the description of Russian praporashchiks elsewhere on Wiki, the comparison between a Russian WO and a US WO are incorrect. The comparison would probably be more accurate to relate the praporashchiks to US senior NCOs, i.e. E-8 and E-9, considering US warrant officers are completely merged into the total officer system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PushkinsBarber ( talk • contribs) 08:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
There seem to be two problems with the insignia that I believe was copied from http://www.uniforminsignia.net/index.php?p=state&id=123
First, the isnignia for a General of the Army actualy belongs to a militsiya officer, as the color of the shoulder board is grey. It's probably not much of a problem because officer insignia for MVD is very much similar to the army and Internal Troops one, but enlisted insignia differs substantially, not to mention that latter are technically the military while the militsiya is the police forces.
Then, the golden parade shoulder board of a Major has an all-forces emblem, which is not necessary at all (only used by medics and justice generals wear shoulder board insignia, because sleeve insignia has one same emblem for all generals). But the white shoulder board of a colonel has no emblem, which is not right because white/green shirts are missing sleeve insingia so the emblem moves to the shoulder boards. -- DmitryKo 16:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I think we should remove comperison between russian and american ranks since it is not the purpuse of this article, and if someone wants to do it they should create partucular article. -- DimaY2K 10:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Do the 'Praporshchik' (Master Non-Commissioned Officer) ranks officially correspond with US Chief Warrant Officers who are commissioned by the US President and are classed as Officers? -- LONDON 13:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
What does the "VS" stand for on the Other Ranks' insignia? 202.89.153.228 01:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Why did you edit the article Army ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation to say that the Russian rank Major General was equivalent to the US rank Major General, rather than the US rank Brigadier General? The article said that the Russian rank of Major General was equivalent to the US rank of Brigadier General, and it gave a source of Harriet Fast Scott and William F. Scott, The Armed Forces of the USSR, Westview Press, Boulder, Colorado, 1979, Appendix B. - Shaheenjim 19:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I think that rank comparisons ought to be avoided altogether. It is almost impossible to achieve perfect grade-for-grade equivalency at the best of times, let alone a comparison between systems that are so different. A better alternative is to show the ranks with their commensurate command appointments, but it's sufficient to just categorise rank groupings (Marshals & Generals, Field Officers, Company Officers, etc.) It is also questionable to use American ranks for comparison, because in this case the American way of doing something - as usual - is the exception, not the rule. The rank comparison article that is cited is WRONG. Rank comparisons must be determined according to function, rather than superficial nonsense like the number of stars, or how many grades there are between certain ranks. There is no Russian equivalent of Brig-Gen, and such a rank is unnecessary anyway. Japan, for example, does without it too. Brigade-size formations are commanded by colonels in both the Russian and American armies, and division-size formations are commanded by major-generals in both the Russian and American armies (there is no formation between brigade and division). Ergo, Russian and American major-generals are basically equivalent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.223.81 ( talk) 14:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Gefreiter is the German rank, I think Efreitor is a more correct latinized version of Russian "Ефрейтор" ( translit: "Yefreytor"). 95.69.152.59 ( talk) 10:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC) UeArtemis
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 03:54, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
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