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The article scarcely mentions the German reaction. Thereafter, they treated Italian forces worse than enemies (see Cephalonia) and acted against Italian warships. Similarly, what part did Italians play in the remainder of the war? For example, some RM ships patrolled the Atlantic and Italian former POWs assisted on the British Home Front. What impact did Italian partisans have? It should at least be mentioned. Folks at 137 20:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
After the surrender, not armistice, the Italians were enemies and traitors. What other than harsh treatment do you expect from the Germans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.113.40 ( talk) 11:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
This article is summary and inaccurate. E.g., Mussolini was not arrested at the Fascist "Gran Consiglio" , but the day after, following a meeting with the King Giordaano 17:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
This article should be titled "Italy's Surrender." Italy did not obtain an armistice from the Allies, but was subjected to a virtually unconditional surrender. The definition of "armistice" is "a temporary suspension of hostilities by agreement of the warring parties; truce." World War I ended with an armistice. Many Italians use the word armistice when referring to Italy's exit of World War II as a euphemism to mask their denial that they just flat out lost. In an armistice, the opposing troops keep their positions and their guns, the opposing governments remain in place, and the front lines remain in place. In Italy, the government disappeared in the night of September 8, without giving the military forces specific instructions. As a result, nearly half a million confused and often leaderless Italian soldiers throughout Italy, Jugoslavia and Greece were captured by the Germans and put into forced labor in German concentration camps, where a large percentage of them died of starvation. Cefalonia was one of the few examples of armed resistance to German forces. Trieste1957 ( talk) 23:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
"Armistizio di Cassibile" is in fact the normal designation of this event in Italy, and I don't think that any Italian in his right mind considers that Italy's defeat in WWII can be masked. Giordaano ( talk) 14:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Could we have "Surrender of Italy" redirect to this article? Seems reasonable enough! Crazy Eddy ( talk) 01:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
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The word frondeur, defined in Wiktionary and elsewhere as "a political rebel" (singular), seems to be misused in the sentence: "The secret frondeur later involved Giuseppe Bottai... and Galeazzo Ciano..."
Could someone with subject knowledge please copyedit this so that it makes sense,
Gambaguru ( talk) 04:01, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that Pietro Badoglio is always referred to as "Duke of Addis Abeba" or even "Addis Abeba", without "Duke". While he was indeed made Duke of Addis Abeba, I did not find any serious source calling him systematically with his recent title instead of the proper name. The same applies to Raffaele Guariglia, called "Barone di Vituso". If there are no objections, I'm going to edit this. Serenior ( talk) 05:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
The Term Fascist Italy was the de facto name of state of the Kingdom of Italy. That was until the armistice is signed in September 3 1943.As the Allies is still fighting the Italians after the overthrow of Mussolini. Jheeeeeeteegh ( talk) 23:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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The article scarcely mentions the German reaction. Thereafter, they treated Italian forces worse than enemies (see Cephalonia) and acted against Italian warships. Similarly, what part did Italians play in the remainder of the war? For example, some RM ships patrolled the Atlantic and Italian former POWs assisted on the British Home Front. What impact did Italian partisans have? It should at least be mentioned. Folks at 137 20:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
After the surrender, not armistice, the Italians were enemies and traitors. What other than harsh treatment do you expect from the Germans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.113.40 ( talk) 11:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
This article is summary and inaccurate. E.g., Mussolini was not arrested at the Fascist "Gran Consiglio" , but the day after, following a meeting with the King Giordaano 17:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
This article should be titled "Italy's Surrender." Italy did not obtain an armistice from the Allies, but was subjected to a virtually unconditional surrender. The definition of "armistice" is "a temporary suspension of hostilities by agreement of the warring parties; truce." World War I ended with an armistice. Many Italians use the word armistice when referring to Italy's exit of World War II as a euphemism to mask their denial that they just flat out lost. In an armistice, the opposing troops keep their positions and their guns, the opposing governments remain in place, and the front lines remain in place. In Italy, the government disappeared in the night of September 8, without giving the military forces specific instructions. As a result, nearly half a million confused and often leaderless Italian soldiers throughout Italy, Jugoslavia and Greece were captured by the Germans and put into forced labor in German concentration camps, where a large percentage of them died of starvation. Cefalonia was one of the few examples of armed resistance to German forces. Trieste1957 ( talk) 23:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
"Armistizio di Cassibile" is in fact the normal designation of this event in Italy, and I don't think that any Italian in his right mind considers that Italy's defeat in WWII can be masked. Giordaano ( talk) 14:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Could we have "Surrender of Italy" redirect to this article? Seems reasonable enough! Crazy Eddy ( talk) 01:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
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The word frondeur, defined in Wiktionary and elsewhere as "a political rebel" (singular), seems to be misused in the sentence: "The secret frondeur later involved Giuseppe Bottai... and Galeazzo Ciano..."
Could someone with subject knowledge please copyedit this so that it makes sense,
Gambaguru ( talk) 04:01, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that Pietro Badoglio is always referred to as "Duke of Addis Abeba" or even "Addis Abeba", without "Duke". While he was indeed made Duke of Addis Abeba, I did not find any serious source calling him systematically with his recent title instead of the proper name. The same applies to Raffaele Guariglia, called "Barone di Vituso". If there are no objections, I'm going to edit this. Serenior ( talk) 05:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
The Term Fascist Italy was the de facto name of state of the Kingdom of Italy. That was until the armistice is signed in September 3 1943.As the Allies is still fighting the Italians after the overthrow of Mussolini. Jheeeeeeteegh ( talk) 23:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)