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You should update in the cabinet of curiosities it has an episode (#5) based on Arkham Massachusetts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:4A02:BD40:18F6:AD2:CD80:8E90 ( talk) 00:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
The real-life model for Arkham seems to be, in fact, Salem [Massachusetts]
Several Lovecraft scholars have claimed to the contrary that Providence, Rhode Island, was the model for Arkham (and that Brown was the model for Miskatonic University). I believe that S.T. Joshi is among them. If you Google "arkham providence" you will pull a list including literally dozens of websites also claiming that Providence was the model for Arkham (although none cite the source of this allegation). That said, I cannot immediately provide a specific attributable citation supporting Providence, but the Salem statement given above is — if not false — inaccurate and misleading. Canonblack 22:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
The map, streets and location near the river makes it likely that Haverhill (Bradford) Massachusetts is the location he uses. North of Salem and looks like Bradford college. Definitely hills around too such as ward hill etc SurgeonRT ( talk) 18:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Not to forget his girlfriend attended what was Bradford College. A place he visited.
https://www.mvmag.net/2016/10/30/dead-but-dreaming/ SurgeonRT ( talk) 18:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Another thing that relates it to Bradford college is that of Esther Forbes. Who was an author and had books in his library and used her name as a character SurgeonRT ( talk) 19:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
This story takes place in Arkham, Massachusetts.
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Is there any significance to the asylum in the DC universe being Arkham? An asylum for only super-powered psychotics? 202.220.169.71 ( talk) 09:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if some of the references being added are based on the article's topic, or just similarly named. Eleven even ( talk) 02:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Does Lovecraft ever mention year of establishment, population, or such for Arkham? -- Monstrim ( talk) 00:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The appearances section goes on at great length without citing any third party reliable sources. At best it's original research based on the interpretations of Wikipedia editors looking at various art and music. Needs to be deleted soon unless someone can cite sources. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 20:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The songs "Arkham Asylum" (Ryan Adams) and "Escaping Arkham" (by Common Market) are listed on this page as if they are related to the subject of this article, Lovecraft's fictional town in Massachusetts. However, I would argue that they refer to the psychiatric prison called 'Arkham Asylum' from the Batman world. Arkham Asylum itself is rightly named on this page, since its name is apparently a reference to Lovecraft's fictional city. But since these two songs refer to the Batman location and not (directly) to the Lovecraft one, I would argue that they should be listed as references in the Arkham Asylum article instead.
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It strikes me as strange that so many different weird things in this universe seem to cluster in or around Arkham that seem to be completely unrelated. Is this a massive coincidence, is there a reason for this, or is it assumed that everywhere is pretty much like Arkham and that the stories just happen to focus on Arkham for no reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 ( talk) 18:26, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
I wasn't enthusiastic about doing it. It's very well-done and inspired by a genuine regard for Lovecraft's art. But he, out of respect for living people, didn't locate his fiction in a spot correlating to real life. The vast majority of Lovecraft fans are good people with the decency and common sense not to scour the real places they imagine Lovecraft's works to be set. But there's also a movement to do just the opposite and the last thing people who move in and through these spaces need is a pack of fantasy-inspired randos popping out of the shrubbery. Clearly, removing this map won't stop said randos, but Wikipedia's mission is not to encourage them. Oona Wikiwalker ( talk) 04:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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You should update in the cabinet of curiosities it has an episode (#5) based on Arkham Massachusetts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:4A02:BD40:18F6:AD2:CD80:8E90 ( talk) 00:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
The real-life model for Arkham seems to be, in fact, Salem [Massachusetts]
Several Lovecraft scholars have claimed to the contrary that Providence, Rhode Island, was the model for Arkham (and that Brown was the model for Miskatonic University). I believe that S.T. Joshi is among them. If you Google "arkham providence" you will pull a list including literally dozens of websites also claiming that Providence was the model for Arkham (although none cite the source of this allegation). That said, I cannot immediately provide a specific attributable citation supporting Providence, but the Salem statement given above is — if not false — inaccurate and misleading. Canonblack 22:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
The map, streets and location near the river makes it likely that Haverhill (Bradford) Massachusetts is the location he uses. North of Salem and looks like Bradford college. Definitely hills around too such as ward hill etc SurgeonRT ( talk) 18:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Not to forget his girlfriend attended what was Bradford College. A place he visited.
https://www.mvmag.net/2016/10/30/dead-but-dreaming/ SurgeonRT ( talk) 18:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Another thing that relates it to Bradford college is that of Esther Forbes. Who was an author and had books in his library and used her name as a character SurgeonRT ( talk) 19:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
This story takes place in Arkham, Massachusetts.
````Enda80
Is there any significance to the asylum in the DC universe being Arkham? An asylum for only super-powered psychotics? 202.220.169.71 ( talk) 09:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if some of the references being added are based on the article's topic, or just similarly named. Eleven even ( talk) 02:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Does Lovecraft ever mention year of establishment, population, or such for Arkham? -- Monstrim ( talk) 00:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The appearances section goes on at great length without citing any third party reliable sources. At best it's original research based on the interpretations of Wikipedia editors looking at various art and music. Needs to be deleted soon unless someone can cite sources. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 20:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The songs "Arkham Asylum" (Ryan Adams) and "Escaping Arkham" (by Common Market) are listed on this page as if they are related to the subject of this article, Lovecraft's fictional town in Massachusetts. However, I would argue that they refer to the psychiatric prison called 'Arkham Asylum' from the Batman world. Arkham Asylum itself is rightly named on this page, since its name is apparently a reference to Lovecraft's fictional city. But since these two songs refer to the Batman location and not (directly) to the Lovecraft one, I would argue that they should be listed as references in the Arkham Asylum article instead.
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It strikes me as strange that so many different weird things in this universe seem to cluster in or around Arkham that seem to be completely unrelated. Is this a massive coincidence, is there a reason for this, or is it assumed that everywhere is pretty much like Arkham and that the stories just happen to focus on Arkham for no reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 ( talk) 18:26, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
I wasn't enthusiastic about doing it. It's very well-done and inspired by a genuine regard for Lovecraft's art. But he, out of respect for living people, didn't locate his fiction in a spot correlating to real life. The vast majority of Lovecraft fans are good people with the decency and common sense not to scour the real places they imagine Lovecraft's works to be set. But there's also a movement to do just the opposite and the last thing people who move in and through these spaces need is a pack of fantasy-inspired randos popping out of the shrubbery. Clearly, removing this map won't stop said randos, but Wikipedia's mission is not to encourage them. Oona Wikiwalker ( talk) 04:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)