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Isn't Ariel (which was discovered at the same time as Umbriel) named after the Ariel in Pope's Rape of the Lock rather than the one in The Tempest? john k 21:37, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
According to The Royal Shakespeare Company, this is pronounced [AIR-ee-el]. According to the OED, the last vowel is a schwa, at least as the name of the gazelle. kwami
We certainly cannot say exactly how much methane is contained in Ariel, as we have no idea whether there is actually any methane in the moon. CO2 is just as likely, and the observation of surface CO2 supports this idea.
Fixed Surface Area (previosly was miscalculated to approx 4 times its actual value)
Second furthest? What does that mean exactly? The lead says second closest, the FA says second closest. Second futhest implies their is only one further away. Arzel ( talk) 00:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
"Ariel is named after the leading sylph in Pope's poem The Rape of the Lock."
Uncited information for some reason in the FA. Ariel is Belinda’s guardian sylph, who oversees an army of invisible protective deities in The Rape of the Lock.This is a reliable source: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/18/us/earth-tradition-holds-sway-for-naming-heavenly-orbits.html Mni9791 ( talk) 01:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
"...Ariel orbits and rotates in the equatorial plane of Uranus, which is almost perpendicular to the orbit of Uranus, granting..."
: should it be "perpendicular to the orbital plane of Uranus" instead of just "orbit"? (and for other similar references to orbital plane, too.)
Prabhakar ( talk) 01:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Given that both Pope's and Shakespeare's characters called Ariel are named for Ariel (angel), it seems remiss to describe the origins of the name without reference to this figure. Suggest it is named for a sky spirit in Alexander Pope's The Rape of the Lock and Shakespeare's The Tempest, and ultimately to an angel in Judeo-Christian mysticism. Kevin McE ( talk) 06:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
The pronunciation in Note 1 does not match the pronunciation referenced in Reference 1 (Merriam-Webster), and the pronunciation in the first line of the article matches neither the actual dictionary (see Reference 1), nor the mispronunciation given in Note 1. Really, Note 1 is superfluous and could be deleted, otherwise it should be corrected. The main pronunciation should also be corrected. It would seem that the dictionary should rule here, as it's a reliable reference and can be cited. 139.68.134.1 ( talk) 15:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
The reference cited, Merriam-Webster's online dictionary (M-W), gives the pronunciation as "\a′-rē-əl\" in M-W's symbology. According to M-W's pronunciation key and Wikipedia's reference table, that corresponds with /'æ-ri-əl/ in Wikipedia-standard IPA for English. So that's what should be in the article. There is no reason compare it to any other word, especially without properly citing a reference. What matters is that the information in the Wikipedia article is supported by the pronunciation in the cited reference work; M-W in this case.
The U.S. Dictionary respelling is unnecessary and locale-centric, so it is not needed, but if it is given, it should also match the pronunciation given in the cited reference. The U.S. dictionary equivalent of the M-W pronunciation is /ă′-rē-əl/.
At present, neither the article's main IPA pronunciation, nor the U.S. dictionary pronunction in Note 1, reflects the information in the cited reference work, nor do the two pronunciations even match each other. This does not meet Wikipedia standards. The entries will be edited to match the informaiton in the cited reference work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.252.83 ( talk) 12:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I wanted to say congrats to everyone who worked on this page for getting this moon to be Today's Featured Article! (I suppose you could say that you editors mooned the Main Page. :-) ) Wabbott9 Tell me about it.... 18:20, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
On 26 July 2006, the Hubble Space Telescope captured a rare transit made by Ariel across the face of Uranus, during which the satellite cast a shadow that could be seen on the Uranian cloud tops.
What satellite is the article talking about? Of course, we are talking about the moon casting a shadow on Uranus. But the sentence is poorly worded. Mni9791 ( talk) 16:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the wording is ambiguous, as there are two satellites (Hubble and Ariel) mentioned in the same sentence, and "the satellite" does not specify one or the other. "Ariel" could certainly be used twice; why is that even questioned? It would be clear. It would be concise and accurate. Perfectly appropriate for an encyclopedia. Or, "moon" could be used instead of "satellite". As it stands, it's poorly written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.252.83 ( talk) 12:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
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Isn't Ariel (which was discovered at the same time as Umbriel) named after the Ariel in Pope's Rape of the Lock rather than the one in The Tempest? john k 21:37, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
According to The Royal Shakespeare Company, this is pronounced [AIR-ee-el]. According to the OED, the last vowel is a schwa, at least as the name of the gazelle. kwami
We certainly cannot say exactly how much methane is contained in Ariel, as we have no idea whether there is actually any methane in the moon. CO2 is just as likely, and the observation of surface CO2 supports this idea.
Fixed Surface Area (previosly was miscalculated to approx 4 times its actual value)
Second furthest? What does that mean exactly? The lead says second closest, the FA says second closest. Second futhest implies their is only one further away. Arzel ( talk) 00:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
"Ariel is named after the leading sylph in Pope's poem The Rape of the Lock."
Uncited information for some reason in the FA. Ariel is Belinda’s guardian sylph, who oversees an army of invisible protective deities in The Rape of the Lock.This is a reliable source: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/18/us/earth-tradition-holds-sway-for-naming-heavenly-orbits.html Mni9791 ( talk) 01:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
"...Ariel orbits and rotates in the equatorial plane of Uranus, which is almost perpendicular to the orbit of Uranus, granting..."
: should it be "perpendicular to the orbital plane of Uranus" instead of just "orbit"? (and for other similar references to orbital plane, too.)
Prabhakar ( talk) 01:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Given that both Pope's and Shakespeare's characters called Ariel are named for Ariel (angel), it seems remiss to describe the origins of the name without reference to this figure. Suggest it is named for a sky spirit in Alexander Pope's The Rape of the Lock and Shakespeare's The Tempest, and ultimately to an angel in Judeo-Christian mysticism. Kevin McE ( talk) 06:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
The pronunciation in Note 1 does not match the pronunciation referenced in Reference 1 (Merriam-Webster), and the pronunciation in the first line of the article matches neither the actual dictionary (see Reference 1), nor the mispronunciation given in Note 1. Really, Note 1 is superfluous and could be deleted, otherwise it should be corrected. The main pronunciation should also be corrected. It would seem that the dictionary should rule here, as it's a reliable reference and can be cited. 139.68.134.1 ( talk) 15:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
The reference cited, Merriam-Webster's online dictionary (M-W), gives the pronunciation as "\a′-rē-əl\" in M-W's symbology. According to M-W's pronunciation key and Wikipedia's reference table, that corresponds with /'æ-ri-əl/ in Wikipedia-standard IPA for English. So that's what should be in the article. There is no reason compare it to any other word, especially without properly citing a reference. What matters is that the information in the Wikipedia article is supported by the pronunciation in the cited reference work; M-W in this case.
The U.S. Dictionary respelling is unnecessary and locale-centric, so it is not needed, but if it is given, it should also match the pronunciation given in the cited reference. The U.S. dictionary equivalent of the M-W pronunciation is /ă′-rē-əl/.
At present, neither the article's main IPA pronunciation, nor the U.S. dictionary pronunction in Note 1, reflects the information in the cited reference work, nor do the two pronunciations even match each other. This does not meet Wikipedia standards. The entries will be edited to match the informaiton in the cited reference work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.252.83 ( talk) 12:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I wanted to say congrats to everyone who worked on this page for getting this moon to be Today's Featured Article! (I suppose you could say that you editors mooned the Main Page. :-) ) Wabbott9 Tell me about it.... 18:20, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
On 26 July 2006, the Hubble Space Telescope captured a rare transit made by Ariel across the face of Uranus, during which the satellite cast a shadow that could be seen on the Uranian cloud tops.
What satellite is the article talking about? Of course, we are talking about the moon casting a shadow on Uranus. But the sentence is poorly worded. Mni9791 ( talk) 16:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the wording is ambiguous, as there are two satellites (Hubble and Ariel) mentioned in the same sentence, and "the satellite" does not specify one or the other. "Ariel" could certainly be used twice; why is that even questioned? It would be clear. It would be concise and accurate. Perfectly appropriate for an encyclopedia. Or, "moon" could be used instead of "satellite". As it stands, it's poorly written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.252.83 ( talk) 12:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
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