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hi i think the ludovisi ares will work better because it looks better, it's 100% ares, and it has a background, which brings out the image. Ghost_Cacus ( talk) 02:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
The three images I've seen placed in the infobox recently are:
Statues of Ares were rare and few survive. All three of these are Roman copies of lost Greek originals. The Villa Adriana image serves our infobox "at-a-glance" purposes well; the lower two-thirds of the Ludovisi can't be taken in so quickly and the cluttered background of that image of the Borghese also delays the eye. NebY ( talk) 10:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
@ Ghost Cacus: I don't see why we should list a whole set of Zeus's children under the "Siblings" tab in the infobox. The purpose of the infobox is to summarise key information about the article's subject, and a list of a number of Zeus's children, coming from varied sources through history, and by women other than Hera, doesn't qualify. The list given here is far from complete (see Zeus#Children), and a complete list would be ludicrously long. The list given here also contains, for example, such obscure figures such as Angelos (mentioned only by a scholion on Theocritus). Just because other pages have such lists, it doesn't mean that this page should. – Michael Aurel ( talk) 04:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article .... The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.Including too many siblings frustrates that purpose. Not only can a long list not be taken in "at a glance" or at all quickly, but the general reader glancing at the start and end of this long list ( Aeacus ... the Moirai) discovers only obscurity and irrelevance; it deters closer examination.
key facts that appear in the article, and that
[t]he less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose. Adding siblings which aren't significant or relevant to Ares goes against this. – Michael Aurel ( talk) 22:36, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
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hi i think the ludovisi ares will work better because it looks better, it's 100% ares, and it has a background, which brings out the image. Ghost_Cacus ( talk) 02:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
The three images I've seen placed in the infobox recently are:
Statues of Ares were rare and few survive. All three of these are Roman copies of lost Greek originals. The Villa Adriana image serves our infobox "at-a-glance" purposes well; the lower two-thirds of the Ludovisi can't be taken in so quickly and the cluttered background of that image of the Borghese also delays the eye. NebY ( talk) 10:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
@ Ghost Cacus: I don't see why we should list a whole set of Zeus's children under the "Siblings" tab in the infobox. The purpose of the infobox is to summarise key information about the article's subject, and a list of a number of Zeus's children, coming from varied sources through history, and by women other than Hera, doesn't qualify. The list given here is far from complete (see Zeus#Children), and a complete list would be ludicrously long. The list given here also contains, for example, such obscure figures such as Angelos (mentioned only by a scholion on Theocritus). Just because other pages have such lists, it doesn't mean that this page should. – Michael Aurel ( talk) 04:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article .... The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.Including too many siblings frustrates that purpose. Not only can a long list not be taken in "at a glance" or at all quickly, but the general reader glancing at the start and end of this long list ( Aeacus ... the Moirai) discovers only obscurity and irrelevance; it deters closer examination.
key facts that appear in the article, and that
[t]he less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose. Adding siblings which aren't significant or relevant to Ares goes against this. – Michael Aurel ( talk) 22:36, 16 June 2023 (UTC)