![]() | This redirect does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
If anyone cares to add a "Class" and "Importance" rating for this article in the categories left undone above, please feel free to do so. Thanks. -- Saukkomies talk 15:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
A recent edit removed almost the entire content of this article on the premise that the material was not related to the subject of archaeogenetics. I looked at the deleted content, and came to the conclusion that this was an incorrect and invalid assesment. Although this article does need a lot of work still, it would be unfounded to throw out the entire content of the article, some of which does have pertinent value. Editors should feel free to improve this article, not merely throw everything into the dustbin because some of it is not up to par. -- Saukkomies talk 10:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I am not an expert on this subject, so experts may easily answer my question. All the same, the article title refers to the "archaeogenetics of the Cucuteni-Trypillian" culture, but there is no information on the genetical features of the bearers of this ancient culture. It is also strange that the only map in the article (which demonstrates the Haplogroup E-M215 (Y-DNA) in Europe) is not clearly connected to its subject. Borsoka ( talk) 17:44, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The following text (unrelated to the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture) was removed from the article based on the discussion above. Since, this text may be useful for other articles, I copied it to this Talk page:
"==E1b1b1a2 (E-V13)== Geneticists agree that Europe is the most genetically homogeneous of all the continents. [1] [2] However, some patterns are discernable. An important issue regarding the genetic impact of neolithic technologies in Europe is the manner by which they were transferred into Europe. Primarily, this question pertains to whether farming was introduced by a significant migratory movement of farmers from the Near East (Cavalli-Sforza's biological demic diffusion model), or a mere " cultural diffusion", or some combination of the two. Secondarily, population geneticists have tried to clarify whether any detectable genetic signatures of Near Eastern origin correspond to the expansion routes postulated by the archaeological evidence. [3] In 2000, Semino's study on Y DNA revealed the presence of haplotypes belonging to the large clade E1b1b1 (E-M35). These were predominantly found in the southern Balkans, southern Italy and parts of Iberia. Semino connected this pattern, along with J haplogroup subclades, to be the Y-DNA component of Cavalli-Sforza's Neolithic demic-diffusion of farmers from the Near East. [4] Rosser et al. rather saw it as a (direct) 'North African component' in European genealogy, although they did not propose a timing and mechanism for to account for it [5] The distribution and diversity of V13 are often thought to represent the introduction of early farming technologies, during the Neolithic expansion, into Europe by way of the Balkans. [6]
The E-V13 clade is equivalent to the "alpha cluster" of E-M78 reported in Cruciani et al. (2004) , and was first defined by the SNP V13 in Cruciani et al. (2006) . Another SNP is known for this clade, V36, reported in Cruciani et al. (2007) . All known positive tests for V13 are also positive for V36. So E-V13 is currently considered "phylogenetically equivalent" to E-V36.
Haplogroup E-V13 is the only lineage that reaches the highest frequencies out of Africa. In fact, it represents about 85% of the European E-M78 chromosomes with a clinal pattern of frequency distribution from the southern Balkan peninsula (19.6%) to western Europe (2.5%). The same haplogroup is also present at lower frequencies in Anatolia (3.8%), the Near East (2.0%), and the Caucasus (1.8%). In Africa, haplogroup E-V13 is rare, being observed only in northern Africa at a low frequency (0.9%).
Battaglia et al. (2008) proposed an earlier movement whereby the E-M78* lineage ancestral to all modern E-V13 men moved rapidly out of a Southern Egyptian homeland, and arrived in Europe with only Mesolithic technologies. They then suggest that the E-V13 sub-clade of E-M78 only expanded subsequently as native Balkan 'foragers-come-farmers' adopted Neolithic technologies from the Near East. They propose that the first major dispersal of E-V13 from the Balkans may have been in the direction of the Adriatic Sea with the Neolithic Impressed Ware culture often referred to as Impressa or Cardial. Peričic et al. (2005) , rather propose that the main route of E-V13 spread was along the Vardar-Morava-Danube river 'highway' system.
In contrast to Battaglia, Cruciani et al. (2007) suggest (i) a different point of V-13 origin, and (ii) a later dispersal time. Cruciani argues that V-13 arose in western Asia, where it is found in low but significant frequencies, from whence it entered the Balkans sometime after 11 kYa. It later experienced a rapid dispersal which he dated to c. 5300 years ago in Europe, coinciding with the Balkan Bronze Age. Like Peričic et al. they consider that "the dispersion of the E-V13 and J-M12 haplogroups seems to have mainly followed the river waterways connecting the southern Balkans to north-central Europe".
Most likely, the demographic history of V13 is complex, as later population movements further amplified it's frequency in the Europe" Borsoka ( talk) 04:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This redirect does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
If anyone cares to add a "Class" and "Importance" rating for this article in the categories left undone above, please feel free to do so. Thanks. -- Saukkomies talk 15:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
A recent edit removed almost the entire content of this article on the premise that the material was not related to the subject of archaeogenetics. I looked at the deleted content, and came to the conclusion that this was an incorrect and invalid assesment. Although this article does need a lot of work still, it would be unfounded to throw out the entire content of the article, some of which does have pertinent value. Editors should feel free to improve this article, not merely throw everything into the dustbin because some of it is not up to par. -- Saukkomies talk 10:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I am not an expert on this subject, so experts may easily answer my question. All the same, the article title refers to the "archaeogenetics of the Cucuteni-Trypillian" culture, but there is no information on the genetical features of the bearers of this ancient culture. It is also strange that the only map in the article (which demonstrates the Haplogroup E-M215 (Y-DNA) in Europe) is not clearly connected to its subject. Borsoka ( talk) 17:44, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The following text (unrelated to the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture) was removed from the article based on the discussion above. Since, this text may be useful for other articles, I copied it to this Talk page:
"==E1b1b1a2 (E-V13)== Geneticists agree that Europe is the most genetically homogeneous of all the continents. [1] [2] However, some patterns are discernable. An important issue regarding the genetic impact of neolithic technologies in Europe is the manner by which they were transferred into Europe. Primarily, this question pertains to whether farming was introduced by a significant migratory movement of farmers from the Near East (Cavalli-Sforza's biological demic diffusion model), or a mere " cultural diffusion", or some combination of the two. Secondarily, population geneticists have tried to clarify whether any detectable genetic signatures of Near Eastern origin correspond to the expansion routes postulated by the archaeological evidence. [3] In 2000, Semino's study on Y DNA revealed the presence of haplotypes belonging to the large clade E1b1b1 (E-M35). These were predominantly found in the southern Balkans, southern Italy and parts of Iberia. Semino connected this pattern, along with J haplogroup subclades, to be the Y-DNA component of Cavalli-Sforza's Neolithic demic-diffusion of farmers from the Near East. [4] Rosser et al. rather saw it as a (direct) 'North African component' in European genealogy, although they did not propose a timing and mechanism for to account for it [5] The distribution and diversity of V13 are often thought to represent the introduction of early farming technologies, during the Neolithic expansion, into Europe by way of the Balkans. [6]
The E-V13 clade is equivalent to the "alpha cluster" of E-M78 reported in Cruciani et al. (2004) , and was first defined by the SNP V13 in Cruciani et al. (2006) . Another SNP is known for this clade, V36, reported in Cruciani et al. (2007) . All known positive tests for V13 are also positive for V36. So E-V13 is currently considered "phylogenetically equivalent" to E-V36.
Haplogroup E-V13 is the only lineage that reaches the highest frequencies out of Africa. In fact, it represents about 85% of the European E-M78 chromosomes with a clinal pattern of frequency distribution from the southern Balkan peninsula (19.6%) to western Europe (2.5%). The same haplogroup is also present at lower frequencies in Anatolia (3.8%), the Near East (2.0%), and the Caucasus (1.8%). In Africa, haplogroup E-V13 is rare, being observed only in northern Africa at a low frequency (0.9%).
Battaglia et al. (2008) proposed an earlier movement whereby the E-M78* lineage ancestral to all modern E-V13 men moved rapidly out of a Southern Egyptian homeland, and arrived in Europe with only Mesolithic technologies. They then suggest that the E-V13 sub-clade of E-M78 only expanded subsequently as native Balkan 'foragers-come-farmers' adopted Neolithic technologies from the Near East. They propose that the first major dispersal of E-V13 from the Balkans may have been in the direction of the Adriatic Sea with the Neolithic Impressed Ware culture often referred to as Impressa or Cardial. Peričic et al. (2005) , rather propose that the main route of E-V13 spread was along the Vardar-Morava-Danube river 'highway' system.
In contrast to Battaglia, Cruciani et al. (2007) suggest (i) a different point of V-13 origin, and (ii) a later dispersal time. Cruciani argues that V-13 arose in western Asia, where it is found in low but significant frequencies, from whence it entered the Balkans sometime after 11 kYa. It later experienced a rapid dispersal which he dated to c. 5300 years ago in Europe, coinciding with the Balkan Bronze Age. Like Peričic et al. they consider that "the dispersion of the E-V13 and J-M12 haplogroups seems to have mainly followed the river waterways connecting the southern Balkans to north-central Europe".
Most likely, the demographic history of V13 is complex, as later population movements further amplified it's frequency in the Europe" Borsoka ( talk) 04:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)