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No melting point? Or does it just decompose before melting, like sugar. Twilight Realm 03:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I love it when people answer "yes" to an either/or questions :-). Dan100 ( Talk) 08:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I think fire dancing can be seen as industiral, if it's done to industrial music. However, I wonder if the topic header might have meant industry in the sense of "production of physical goods". It also might be a major use in some circles, but I imagine global demend might be somewhat smaller than for tire belts.-- Joel 06:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I saw this too, I'm going to change it to just uses. Also, shouldn't it just say that it's being used in brake pads rather than it's a replacement for asbestos in break pads? Asbestos was used for a lot of things, not all of which it's replacing. (Insulation being an obvious example). Gobbits ( talk) 06:39, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
the polyaramids dralon and tiptolon are not described. Please include. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.177.57 ( talk) 10:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-> Nonsense, Dralon is a brandname of an acrylic fiber, Tiptolon is a polyamid. Aramids are from another world compared to these.
Wow. Excellent article, good writing! Good practical info for Everyman! ...way above par for Wiki!
But aramids and para-aramids seem to be used interchangeably. Are they? This needs to be made explicit. If not, needs explaining, with examples of aramids and so forth.
Also needing explaining are "sensitive to acids and salts," and "sensitive to ultraviolet radiation." Such as; how bad is it? Two days in the sun? 10 days in seawater? Fixes, product variations, or work-arounds? etc... Cheers!
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19:01, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Doug Bashford
The wording in the source is Generic name given by the F.T.C. in 1974 to a class of aramatic polyamide fibers that differ in properties from the conventional nylons. Unfortunately they don't say what F.T.C. stands for, but presumably it's the Federal Trade Commission, which has it as an approved generic name?
But given seems an odd choice of word. It seems more likely that they adopted or approved a word already in use (maybe in research papers or similar) than that they invented it themselves. Is there a better source anywhere? Musiconeologist ( talk) 11:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
The current second sentence of the article is structured as They are used in A and B, for C and D, in E, F, and as G. I can't tell whether aerospace and military applications (A and B) are meant just to be the first item on the list, or to encompass some or all of the remaining items. Musiconeologist ( talk) 01:19, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
I've kept the FTC definition (now quoted in a footnote to the terminology and chemical structure section). But it seems very odd to be using a particular country's trading regulations as the source for a scientific definition. Really we need the definition used by the ISO or an international scientific body, even if it turns out to be identical. Musiconeologist ( talk) 02:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
In the section called 'Production' I read: 'In 2007 this means a total production capacity of around 55,000 tonnes per year.'
I increasingly often also in German come across this type of - to my perception over-determined - phrasing.
'In 2007 this means a total production capacity of around 55,000 tonnes.' Should be enough and therefore much better than giving the impression that the omitted words are somehow necessary. Or maybe they are and I just have not gotten the role they play .. Lodidol ( talk) 16:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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No melting point? Or does it just decompose before melting, like sugar. Twilight Realm 03:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I love it when people answer "yes" to an either/or questions :-). Dan100 ( Talk) 08:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I think fire dancing can be seen as industiral, if it's done to industrial music. However, I wonder if the topic header might have meant industry in the sense of "production of physical goods". It also might be a major use in some circles, but I imagine global demend might be somewhat smaller than for tire belts.-- Joel 06:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I saw this too, I'm going to change it to just uses. Also, shouldn't it just say that it's being used in brake pads rather than it's a replacement for asbestos in break pads? Asbestos was used for a lot of things, not all of which it's replacing. (Insulation being an obvious example). Gobbits ( talk) 06:39, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
the polyaramids dralon and tiptolon are not described. Please include. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.177.57 ( talk) 10:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-> Nonsense, Dralon is a brandname of an acrylic fiber, Tiptolon is a polyamid. Aramids are from another world compared to these.
Wow. Excellent article, good writing! Good practical info for Everyman! ...way above par for Wiki!
But aramids and para-aramids seem to be used interchangeably. Are they? This needs to be made explicit. If not, needs explaining, with examples of aramids and so forth.
Also needing explaining are "sensitive to acids and salts," and "sensitive to ultraviolet radiation." Such as; how bad is it? Two days in the sun? 10 days in seawater? Fixes, product variations, or work-arounds? etc... Cheers!
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2602:306:CFCE:1EE0:C16D:7F97:1C4C:6D39 (
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19:01, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Doug Bashford
The wording in the source is Generic name given by the F.T.C. in 1974 to a class of aramatic polyamide fibers that differ in properties from the conventional nylons. Unfortunately they don't say what F.T.C. stands for, but presumably it's the Federal Trade Commission, which has it as an approved generic name?
But given seems an odd choice of word. It seems more likely that they adopted or approved a word already in use (maybe in research papers or similar) than that they invented it themselves. Is there a better source anywhere? Musiconeologist ( talk) 11:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
The current second sentence of the article is structured as They are used in A and B, for C and D, in E, F, and as G. I can't tell whether aerospace and military applications (A and B) are meant just to be the first item on the list, or to encompass some or all of the remaining items. Musiconeologist ( talk) 01:19, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
I've kept the FTC definition (now quoted in a footnote to the terminology and chemical structure section). But it seems very odd to be using a particular country's trading regulations as the source for a scientific definition. Really we need the definition used by the ISO or an international scientific body, even if it turns out to be identical. Musiconeologist ( talk) 02:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
In the section called 'Production' I read: 'In 2007 this means a total production capacity of around 55,000 tonnes per year.'
I increasingly often also in German come across this type of - to my perception over-determined - phrasing.
'In 2007 this means a total production capacity of around 55,000 tonnes.' Should be enough and therefore much better than giving the impression that the omitted words are somehow necessary. Or maybe they are and I just have not gotten the role they play .. Lodidol ( talk) 16:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)