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is the arabian sea the largest in the world? hoorah —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.134.16 ( talk • contribs) 16:05, 8 February 2005
every gulf has been named after its sea, persian gulf was named after persian sea or pars sea , the correct name is PERSIAN SEA , as persians call it daryayeh Pars wiki is wrong some one fix this missleading information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.73.251 ( talk • contribs) 21:57, 15 July 2007
I've changed the above phrase to Iran. The link to Persia didn't seem to be consistent with using modern or present-day names of present-day geographic locations. 4.243.206.153 07:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Queen of the Arabian City reference to Kochi in India
This is ridiculous! the source cited by the author of this reference is an Indian newspaper. Just because one country where the Arabian sea reaches (India) feel that one of their ports is teh "Queen" doesn't make it so. Kochi as the Queen of Arabian sea is vitually unheard of in any of the other countries where the Arabian sea reaches. This reference must be removed....I tried to but the page seems inaccessible due to some maintenance being performed or something...someone please do this virtuous deed and remove this ridiculous reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.143.43 ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 7 April 2007
This sea should be named Indian Sea since India has the most coast line not Arabian countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4403:42AD:99A2:E9B5:1949:BE34 ( talk) 00:48, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Currently Bahr al-'Arab and Bahr al-'arab redirect here, and the first sentence says that this is the Arabic name for the Arabian Sea. But there is also a river in Sudan named Bahr al-Arab which sources say is also spelled "Bahr al-'Arab". For example, see: Bahr al-'Arab and Bahr al-Ghazal at Encyclopædia Britannica Online, As Sudd and Baḩr al Ghazāl at MSN Encarta.
From what little I know of Arabic, "Bahr" (or "Baḩr" more properly) can mean river, lake, or sea. So I wonder if something should be done about this. I realize the Arabian Sea is far more notable than a minor stream in Sudan. On the other hand the stream drains the Darfur region, so it may be of interest these days. Perhaps one of those "for the river in Sudan see..." blurbs? Pfly ( talk) 07:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah I read too quickly and misunderstood. Or maybe I assumed one could cut and paste between an article and a redirect, though I guess that make link fixing a pain. In any case, your redirect->dabs idea makes sense. For now I just added a "hatnote" to the two articles. It might be non-ideal, but it was quick and I have to go to bed... Pfly ( talk) 08:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
due to the fact that Indian, Iranian and Pakistani population who live in the coastal areas of this sea is more than its arab population , the name of the sea must change back to PARSYAN SEA or INDIAN sea like it was before. even Indians ,Iranians ,Pakistanis ,Indonisians and Baluchis consist of 53% of those new arab state population . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.197.66 ( talk) 22:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
As an Iranian Persian, I feel sorry for you. Historically, Arabian sea is tied to the Arab culture which moved slaves, spices and other things along the routes in this sea (Specially Yemenis were active in the trades.) As the language of the traders there was mostly Arabic (As Iranian's mostly traded by land), the Sea must be in fact called "The Arabian Sea". This has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the name for Persian Gulf though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.233.169.184 ( talk) 12:06, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
According to many sources its size is 1,498,320 sq km instead. Which is correct? 116.49.135.38 ( talk) 15:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Should it be included that this is the final resting place for Osama bin Laden? Adwiii Talk 21:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Everyone , Can we add the following Indian deep water ports under the major ports section
The above information is sourced from annual numbers from Shipping ministry of India - 2011 as well as American Association of Port Authorities ranking of ports - 2009
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. [9] [10] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maahmaah ( talk • contribs) 09:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC) that is a very good useful map and had been published in Iranian public website and web loges and have no copy right. in Iran copy right is not applicable to the none private picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 ( talk • contribs) 07:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
The Arabian Sea historically and geographically had many other different names by Muslim travelers and European geographers such as: Akhzar Sea, Persian Sea, [1], Chah Bahar, [2] Makran Sea, [3] Sindhu Sagar, [4] Erythraean Sea, [5] Dera Macran, [6] and Sindh Sea. [7] The name of the sea is disputed amongst some historians in Iran and Pakistan. [8] They collectively argue and believe that the name Arabian Sea was first used on maps due to colonialism in the past 400 years. [9] Among historians, travellers and geographers of the Islamic era, many of them writing in Arabic or persian from the 9th to the 17th century, Ibn Khordadbeh, [10] Ibn al-Faqih, [11] Ibn Rustah, [12] Sohrab, [13] Ramhormozi, [14] Abu Ishaq Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al-Farisi al Istakhri, [15] Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi, [16] Al-Mutahhar ibn Tahir al-Maqdisi (d. 966), [17] Ibn Hawqal, [18] Al-Muqaddasi, [19] Ibn Khaldun, Mohammad ibn Najub Bekiran, [20] Abu Rayhan Biruni, [21] Muhammad al-Idrisi, [22] Yaqut al-Hamawi, [23] Zakariya al-Qazwini, [24] Abu'l-Fida, [25] Al-Dimashqi, [26] Hamdollah Mostowfi, [27] Al-Nuwayri, [26] Ibn Batutta, [28] Katip Çelebi and other sources have used the terms, "Bahr-i Mohit", "Bahr-i Mohit i Ajam", "Bahr-al-'Ajami", "Bahr-i-Fars", "Dera-i-Fars"(Persian), and "Bahr-i Mokran/Mecran", "Bahr-i Al Akhzar" (green) to refer to the current Arabian sea. ("Bahr-in Arabic means Sea" and Mohit means ocean) none of them referred to as Arabian sea. [29] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maahmaah ( talk • contribs) 12:25, 14 April 2012
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05:26, 19 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 ( talk • contribs)
Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi , Muhammad al-Idrisi, Istakhri , Mahmud al-Kashgari , Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad and Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi had mentioned the sea as Persian sea and sea of Mokran.there are many maps and atlases which prove the names other than Arabian sea in the past centuries .there are a lot of famous facts and documents.
some of the midival map including the map by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 had mentioned the Persian sea and also Makran. thumb|The western part of the Indian Ocean, by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 from his system of global gores the Makran coast
[ [13]] i will bring for you many maps and documents please wait — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 ( talk • contribs) 06:47, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
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It is up to managers to decide about this part. so keep quite. look to the map in this page for example this: [14]
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It has one of the. Largest dead zone in ocean being lifeless because of depleted oxygen Personale ( talk) 08:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
″The Arabian Sea has repeatedly changed its name, first called in ancient times the sea of Eritrea, with reference to the sea of Eritrea which bordered it. In the 18th century it was called mar di India, as it appears from a map drawn up in 1707 by a Dutch publisher and bookseller. Article translated from French. Web link: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mer_d%27Arabie″ -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC) -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC) -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC) -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Persian sea. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 18#Persian sea until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin (she/they, no pref.) | o toki tawa mi. 07:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
(this part is necessary to be added to Arabian sea, the sources are reliable. but it is only a matter of history should not be alternative name.)
The Arabian Sea historically and geographically has been referred to with different names by Turks, persian , Arabs and scholars of Geography and cartography in medieval Islam, European geographers and travelers, including [1] :
in Indian folklore,it is referred to as Daria, and Arabi Samudra,( Sindhu Sagar). [3] in Pakistan it is called officially Arabian sea and unofficial Macran sea .
[19] some officials maps of the government uses both Arabian sea and Oman sea
and other scholar had wrote :"old Arabic and Persian books used the Persian Sea. they did not used the term "Arabian Sea" Arabian sea first appeared in the European maps of 17 century". the geographers of Geography and cartography in medieval Islam were using the word Bahre Fars بحر فارس (persian sea) دریای فارس to mention the current body of water in the north of Indian Ocean. [25] [26] [27] Malmirian page 93-1001 [28] [7] Ibn al-Wardi , Ibn Khordadbeh, Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, Muhammad al-Idrisi, Istakhri, Mahmud al-Kashgari, Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad and Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi had mentioned the sea as Persian sea and sea of Mokran. [8] some of the medieval map including the map by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 had mentioned the Persian sea and also Makran. [9] Cornelius Le Brun's Year 1718 Map.in the 16th century map by Abraham Ortelius in which the name of the Persian Sea and the Indian Sea appear. [10] In the Book Documents on the Persian Gulf's name( [29] Pages 60 to 84 are devoted to the description of the Persian Sea in the books of geographers and historians of Muslim world, All of whom had called the seas of south part of Iran , India and the Arabian Peninsula as the Persian Sea, the book cited description of the Persian sea from the book (Sourat Ard)Face of the Earth page 42 Written by Ibn Hawql:” … after Arabs lands then should be mentioned The Sea of Persia because Persian sea includes most of Arabs borders,and the Arabia (peninsula) connected to this sea ,the Persian sea connected to many countries of Islam. this sea start from the Qulzam(Red sea ) and ends to Eble (Basra bay), then It crosses Bandar Siraf then extends to the coasts of Hormuz then Makran to the coasts of Multan, which is the coasts of Sindh (Pakistan) which the boundaries of the countries of Islam ended then the persian sea continues to the coasts of India then connect to to the sea of China”. see original text: [30] the book the cited [1] others scholars of Geography and cartography in medieval Islamsuch as : Zakariya al-Qazwini, Al-Masudi , Ibn Hawqal, [11], [31] [32]( Hafiz-i Abru),mentioned in the book History of Islam and Iran, says:"the Green Sea is also called the Sea of India and it connects with the Persian Sea.” [12]. [13] [14] Arabian Sea was first used on European maps in the colonial period . [15] Ibn Khordadbeh, [16] Ibn al-Faqih, [17] Ibn Rustah, [18] Sohrab, [19] Ramhormozi, [20] Abu Ishaq Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al-Farisi al Istakhri, [21] Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi, [22] Al-Mutahhar ibn Tahir al-Maqdisi (d. 966), [23] Al-Muqaddasi, [24] Ibn Khaldun, Mohammad ibn Najub Bekiran, [25] Abu Rayhan Biruni, [26] Muhammad al-Idrisi, [27] Yaqut al-Hamawi, [28] Zakariya al-Qazwini, [29] Abu'l-Fida ,pages 26- 27 [33] , [30] Al-Dimashqi, [31] Hamdollah Mostowfi, [32] Al-Nuwayri, [31] Ibn Batutta, [33] Katip Çelebi and other sources have used the terms, "Bahr-e Mohit e Ajam", "Bahr-al-'Ajami", "Bahr-e-Fars", "Deria-e-Fars"(Persian sea), and "Bahr-e Mokran/Mecran", "Bahr-e Al Akhzar" (green) to refer to the current Arabian sea. ("Bahr-in Arabic means Sea" and Mohit means ocean) none of the above mentioned scholar of Geography and cartography in medieval Islam mentioned Arabian sea. [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] . [34]
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Many atlases had published old maps of Asia and Indian ocean such as Atlas of The Arabian Peninsula in Old European Maps.Paris, 424pp. contains 253 maps.10 maps have used persian Sea (for the body of water which is now called Arabian sea)the maps in pages: -141-226-323-322-331-345-347-363-355• [43] such as the hours shape map of Bunting H.S.Q34/24CM Hanover,1620. [1]
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Ibuap, would you care to explain what you mean here? I'm not sure i understand what you object to in the edit i deletion i reverted. Seems to me that a section on alternate names, especially for a body of water which has had them over the years, is reasonable ~ i am quite happy to learn and to discuss, it's just that i need to know the parameters to begin with. Thanks. Happy days, ~ Lindsay H ello 14:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Firstly, as every gulf has been named after its sea, this sea is technically referred to as the Persian Sea, not that 'arabian sea'. Secondly, as a massive significant minority, all Persians around the globe and the Iranian ethnic groups and their descendants, potentially more than just that, refer to this body of water as “the Persian Sea” it is necessary and unavoidable to put the term “Persian Sea” as the lead of the article or as an alternative name for it. 151.241.254.19 ( talk) 10:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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is the arabian sea the largest in the world? hoorah —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.134.16 ( talk • contribs) 16:05, 8 February 2005
every gulf has been named after its sea, persian gulf was named after persian sea or pars sea , the correct name is PERSIAN SEA , as persians call it daryayeh Pars wiki is wrong some one fix this missleading information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.73.251 ( talk • contribs) 21:57, 15 July 2007
I've changed the above phrase to Iran. The link to Persia didn't seem to be consistent with using modern or present-day names of present-day geographic locations. 4.243.206.153 07:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Queen of the Arabian City reference to Kochi in India
This is ridiculous! the source cited by the author of this reference is an Indian newspaper. Just because one country where the Arabian sea reaches (India) feel that one of their ports is teh "Queen" doesn't make it so. Kochi as the Queen of Arabian sea is vitually unheard of in any of the other countries where the Arabian sea reaches. This reference must be removed....I tried to but the page seems inaccessible due to some maintenance being performed or something...someone please do this virtuous deed and remove this ridiculous reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.143.43 ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 7 April 2007
This sea should be named Indian Sea since India has the most coast line not Arabian countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4403:42AD:99A2:E9B5:1949:BE34 ( talk) 00:48, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Currently Bahr al-'Arab and Bahr al-'arab redirect here, and the first sentence says that this is the Arabic name for the Arabian Sea. But there is also a river in Sudan named Bahr al-Arab which sources say is also spelled "Bahr al-'Arab". For example, see: Bahr al-'Arab and Bahr al-Ghazal at Encyclopædia Britannica Online, As Sudd and Baḩr al Ghazāl at MSN Encarta.
From what little I know of Arabic, "Bahr" (or "Baḩr" more properly) can mean river, lake, or sea. So I wonder if something should be done about this. I realize the Arabian Sea is far more notable than a minor stream in Sudan. On the other hand the stream drains the Darfur region, so it may be of interest these days. Perhaps one of those "for the river in Sudan see..." blurbs? Pfly ( talk) 07:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah I read too quickly and misunderstood. Or maybe I assumed one could cut and paste between an article and a redirect, though I guess that make link fixing a pain. In any case, your redirect->dabs idea makes sense. For now I just added a "hatnote" to the two articles. It might be non-ideal, but it was quick and I have to go to bed... Pfly ( talk) 08:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
due to the fact that Indian, Iranian and Pakistani population who live in the coastal areas of this sea is more than its arab population , the name of the sea must change back to PARSYAN SEA or INDIAN sea like it was before. even Indians ,Iranians ,Pakistanis ,Indonisians and Baluchis consist of 53% of those new arab state population . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.197.66 ( talk) 22:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
As an Iranian Persian, I feel sorry for you. Historically, Arabian sea is tied to the Arab culture which moved slaves, spices and other things along the routes in this sea (Specially Yemenis were active in the trades.) As the language of the traders there was mostly Arabic (As Iranian's mostly traded by land), the Sea must be in fact called "The Arabian Sea". This has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the name for Persian Gulf though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.233.169.184 ( talk) 12:06, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
According to many sources its size is 1,498,320 sq km instead. Which is correct? 116.49.135.38 ( talk) 15:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Should it be included that this is the final resting place for Osama bin Laden? Adwiii Talk 21:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Everyone , Can we add the following Indian deep water ports under the major ports section
The above information is sourced from annual numbers from Shipping ministry of India - 2011 as well as American Association of Port Authorities ranking of ports - 2009
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. [9] [10] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maahmaah ( talk • contribs) 09:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC) that is a very good useful map and had been published in Iranian public website and web loges and have no copy right. in Iran copy right is not applicable to the none private picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 ( talk • contribs) 07:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
The Arabian Sea historically and geographically had many other different names by Muslim travelers and European geographers such as: Akhzar Sea, Persian Sea, [1], Chah Bahar, [2] Makran Sea, [3] Sindhu Sagar, [4] Erythraean Sea, [5] Dera Macran, [6] and Sindh Sea. [7] The name of the sea is disputed amongst some historians in Iran and Pakistan. [8] They collectively argue and believe that the name Arabian Sea was first used on maps due to colonialism in the past 400 years. [9] Among historians, travellers and geographers of the Islamic era, many of them writing in Arabic or persian from the 9th to the 17th century, Ibn Khordadbeh, [10] Ibn al-Faqih, [11] Ibn Rustah, [12] Sohrab, [13] Ramhormozi, [14] Abu Ishaq Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al-Farisi al Istakhri, [15] Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi, [16] Al-Mutahhar ibn Tahir al-Maqdisi (d. 966), [17] Ibn Hawqal, [18] Al-Muqaddasi, [19] Ibn Khaldun, Mohammad ibn Najub Bekiran, [20] Abu Rayhan Biruni, [21] Muhammad al-Idrisi, [22] Yaqut al-Hamawi, [23] Zakariya al-Qazwini, [24] Abu'l-Fida, [25] Al-Dimashqi, [26] Hamdollah Mostowfi, [27] Al-Nuwayri, [26] Ibn Batutta, [28] Katip Çelebi and other sources have used the terms, "Bahr-i Mohit", "Bahr-i Mohit i Ajam", "Bahr-al-'Ajami", "Bahr-i-Fars", "Dera-i-Fars"(Persian), and "Bahr-i Mokran/Mecran", "Bahr-i Al Akhzar" (green) to refer to the current Arabian sea. ("Bahr-in Arabic means Sea" and Mohit means ocean) none of them referred to as Arabian sea. [29] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maahmaah ( talk • contribs) 12:25, 14 April 2012
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05:26, 19 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 ( talk • contribs)
Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi , Muhammad al-Idrisi, Istakhri , Mahmud al-Kashgari , Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad and Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi had mentioned the sea as Persian sea and sea of Mokran.there are many maps and atlases which prove the names other than Arabian sea in the past centuries .there are a lot of famous facts and documents.
some of the midival map including the map by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 had mentioned the Persian sea and also Makran. thumb|The western part of the Indian Ocean, by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 from his system of global gores the Makran coast
[ [13]] i will bring for you many maps and documents please wait — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 ( talk • contribs) 06:47, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
06:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
It is up to managers to decide about this part. so keep quite. look to the map in this page for example this: [14]
[]
and the maps in this page : [15]
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It has one of the. Largest dead zone in ocean being lifeless because of depleted oxygen Personale ( talk) 08:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
″The Arabian Sea has repeatedly changed its name, first called in ancient times the sea of Eritrea, with reference to the sea of Eritrea which bordered it. In the 18th century it was called mar di India, as it appears from a map drawn up in 1707 by a Dutch publisher and bookseller. Article translated from French. Web link: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mer_d%27Arabie″ -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC) -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC) -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC) -- Kiss de Băbeni ( talk) 14:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Persian sea. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 18#Persian sea until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin (she/they, no pref.) | o toki tawa mi. 07:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
(this part is necessary to be added to Arabian sea, the sources are reliable. but it is only a matter of history should not be alternative name.)
The Arabian Sea historically and geographically has been referred to with different names by Turks, persian , Arabs and scholars of Geography and cartography in medieval Islam, European geographers and travelers, including [1] :
in Indian folklore,it is referred to as Daria, and Arabi Samudra,( Sindhu Sagar). [3] in Pakistan it is called officially Arabian sea and unofficial Macran sea .
[19] some officials maps of the government uses both Arabian sea and Oman sea
and other scholar had wrote :"old Arabic and Persian books used the Persian Sea. they did not used the term "Arabian Sea" Arabian sea first appeared in the European maps of 17 century". the geographers of Geography and cartography in medieval Islam were using the word Bahre Fars بحر فارس (persian sea) دریای فارس to mention the current body of water in the north of Indian Ocean. [25] [26] [27] Malmirian page 93-1001 [28] [7] Ibn al-Wardi , Ibn Khordadbeh, Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, Muhammad al-Idrisi, Istakhri, Mahmud al-Kashgari, Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad and Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi had mentioned the sea as Persian sea and sea of Mokran. [8] some of the medieval map including the map by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 had mentioned the Persian sea and also Makran. [9] Cornelius Le Brun's Year 1718 Map.in the 16th century map by Abraham Ortelius in which the name of the Persian Sea and the Indian Sea appear. [10] In the Book Documents on the Persian Gulf's name( [29] Pages 60 to 84 are devoted to the description of the Persian Sea in the books of geographers and historians of Muslim world, All of whom had called the seas of south part of Iran , India and the Arabian Peninsula as the Persian Sea, the book cited description of the Persian sea from the book (Sourat Ard)Face of the Earth page 42 Written by Ibn Hawql:” … after Arabs lands then should be mentioned The Sea of Persia because Persian sea includes most of Arabs borders,and the Arabia (peninsula) connected to this sea ,the Persian sea connected to many countries of Islam. this sea start from the Qulzam(Red sea ) and ends to Eble (Basra bay), then It crosses Bandar Siraf then extends to the coasts of Hormuz then Makran to the coasts of Multan, which is the coasts of Sindh (Pakistan) which the boundaries of the countries of Islam ended then the persian sea continues to the coasts of India then connect to to the sea of China”. see original text: [30] the book the cited [1] others scholars of Geography and cartography in medieval Islamsuch as : Zakariya al-Qazwini, Al-Masudi , Ibn Hawqal, [11], [31] [32]( Hafiz-i Abru),mentioned in the book History of Islam and Iran, says:"the Green Sea is also called the Sea of India and it connects with the Persian Sea.” [12]. [13] [14] Arabian Sea was first used on European maps in the colonial period . [15] Ibn Khordadbeh, [16] Ibn al-Faqih, [17] Ibn Rustah, [18] Sohrab, [19] Ramhormozi, [20] Abu Ishaq Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al-Farisi al Istakhri, [21] Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi, [22] Al-Mutahhar ibn Tahir al-Maqdisi (d. 966), [23] Al-Muqaddasi, [24] Ibn Khaldun, Mohammad ibn Najub Bekiran, [25] Abu Rayhan Biruni, [26] Muhammad al-Idrisi, [27] Yaqut al-Hamawi, [28] Zakariya al-Qazwini, [29] Abu'l-Fida ,pages 26- 27 [33] , [30] Al-Dimashqi, [31] Hamdollah Mostowfi, [32] Al-Nuwayri, [31] Ibn Batutta, [33] Katip Çelebi and other sources have used the terms, "Bahr-e Mohit e Ajam", "Bahr-al-'Ajami", "Bahr-e-Fars", "Deria-e-Fars"(Persian sea), and "Bahr-e Mokran/Mecran", "Bahr-e Al Akhzar" (green) to refer to the current Arabian sea. ("Bahr-in Arabic means Sea" and Mohit means ocean) none of the above mentioned scholar of Geography and cartography in medieval Islam mentioned Arabian sea. [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] . [34]
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Many atlases had published old maps of Asia and Indian ocean such as Atlas of The Arabian Peninsula in Old European Maps.Paris, 424pp. contains 253 maps.10 maps have used persian Sea (for the body of water which is now called Arabian sea)the maps in pages: -141-226-323-322-331-345-347-363-355• [43] such as the hours shape map of Bunting H.S.Q34/24CM Hanover,1620. [1]
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5.211.210.253 ( talk) 09:29, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Ibuap, would you care to explain what you mean here? I'm not sure i understand what you object to in the edit i deletion i reverted. Seems to me that a section on alternate names, especially for a body of water which has had them over the years, is reasonable ~ i am quite happy to learn and to discuss, it's just that i need to know the parameters to begin with. Thanks. Happy days, ~ Lindsay H ello 14:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Firstly, as every gulf has been named after its sea, this sea is technically referred to as the Persian Sea, not that 'arabian sea'. Secondly, as a massive significant minority, all Persians around the globe and the Iranian ethnic groups and their descendants, potentially more than just that, refer to this body of water as “the Persian Sea” it is necessary and unavoidable to put the term “Persian Sea” as the lead of the article or as an alternative name for it. 151.241.254.19 ( talk) 10:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)