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Whoa... for April 3 it has "1968 - Elvis Presley sings "Heartbreak Hotel" on the Milton Berle Show, with an estimated 25% of the United States population viewing." That can't be right. I'm pretty sure that Elvis made his comback special in 1968; it couldn't have anything do with Milton Berle, whose show ended long before 1968. Maybe the person means 1958? And Ed Sullivan? (posted by User:24.218.204.31 at 06:35 UTC, 2005 September 22.)
The following entry under the "Events" header was twice removed: " 1971 - Japanese tokusatsu television series Kamen Rider premieres at 7:00 AM, marking the beginning of the long-running Kamen Rider franchise." Now, based on my reading of this, there is a general agreement that the initial broadcast of television programmes, the release of films, albums, video games, etc. should not be included on these pages. The given reasoning (that these events are not "globally important") is very weak, however; it is demonstrably untrue in many cases, and, in addition, is true of numerous other events that remain on the page.
Beyond this more general issue, however, I must take issue with the removal of this event specifically. As my edit clearly indicated, the premier of Kamen Rider was the beginning of an entire franchise of television programmes and theatrical films that continues to this day, and is one of the most popular and well-known in Japan. If that isn't enough to convince you, then I will note that the programmes have been aired in Brazil, France, and the United States, the original series lasted an unheard of (at the time) three years (150+ episodes), as well as being adapted into three theatrical films. Beyond that, there has been a new programme produced virtually every year since the original, as well as multiple television specials and straight-to-video films during the times when a new series wasn't produced. Essentially, the franchise has been a more-or-less constant premise since the premier.
Please note that I completely understand the aversion to television and film releases, as these are usually insignificant. However, I think that there are exceptions to this rule, and that removing these things wholesale without proper research (even, seemingly, reading the Wikipedia article) and consideration is unproductive.
Thank you for taking the time to reading this.-- SB | T 23:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
What do you propose to use as a measure of impact? Rklawton 23:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I actually watched this show when I was a kid growing up on the other side of the planet in the 1970s where it was and still is known as 幪面超人. It's very notable. 星空奇遇 (Star Trek) was not as popular back then. Both shows were dubbed in Chinese, in case anyone is wondering. I support the inclusion of the premiere in the events list, and even as a Selected Anniversary on MainPage, as long as the date & time is verifiable. -- PFHLai 04:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
BTW, language aside, I don't think checking the internet is that useful to determine the notability of things most popular before the internet age. The first 2 waves of 幪面超人-mania in the Far East (at least in Hong Kong & Taiwan) took place in the 70s and 80s (no internet), roughly the time between when Captain Kirk left and Captain Picard appeared on TV screens. Star Trek then kept going strong, with subsequent spin-offs and movies coming on as the internet grew. This may explain the big difference in Google counts. The numbers would be quite different if people were able to build websites and blogs in the 70s. -- PFHLai 06:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC) [P.S. Thanks for bringing back some interesting childhood memories. :-) ]
On a different note, I'm a big fan of Ultra Man, Godzilla, and Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robot. My poor parents had to contend with a kid who thought stomping on his toys was all part of the fun. I doubt they ever understood. They never ever considered helping me build a model train set. Just as well, I suppose. It wouldn't have lasted. I finally did learn how to fly, though. Rklawton 19:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Can we get a source cited for the death of Jesus Christ being dated at April 3, 33? 66.17.118.195 18:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
The Binghamton shootings, while newsworthy, cannot at this point be considered long-term globally notable events per WP:DOY. They fall under similar classification as most school shootings and should not be listed on this date page. If they turn out to have a widespread impact in a legal or cultural area, then we can begin to debate their notability for inclusion. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 16:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Mick Mars is shown as birthday celebrant for April 3. However, his page lists his birth date as May 4, 1951. One of these is obviously incorrect???? Gaiamei ( talk) 18:16, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
3rd April 1892: Ice Cream Sundae invented. The world-famous dessert, which is made using a combination of ice cream and syrup, was invented in 1892 by New York soda fountain proprietor Chester Platt. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/859828-google-doodle-celebrates-ice-cream-sundae-anniversary
the birth year of Jaya Prada,indian actor is 1962. please change the year. Kvr.lohith ( talk) 16:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Query to RMs125a in particular:
I have tried adding the calculated crucifixion date of Jesus as follows:
You have reverted my edit with the mysterious reason that it is "conjecture" and "speculation", and point to a Wikipedia link, but the Wiki link you provide does not work. So please explain.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.101.95 ( talk) 14:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
References
Amccann421 accuses me of edit-warring, saying "Please do not add or change content, as you did at April 3, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article."
However the other editors have pointed out today to me that in fact it is NOT permitted to cite references/sources in April 3 or in any other Date-of-Year pages. Hence I removed my references. Unfortunately, now Amccann421 has appeared on the scene and is criticising me for removing the refs and accusing me of edit warring. Please confirm, on the April 3 Talk page, that you have got it wrong. And please do not further disrupt the discussion and editing process unless you have a valid point to make. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.101.95 ( talk) 20:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
2018 – An attempt to create Punish a Muslim Day on April 3rd
No links to show it actually happened. No sources, no nothing. This seems very inflammatory to me, especially without anything to back it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A9B0:5270:83E:9A0D:9ED3:A559 ( talk) 06:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC) I just tried to remove this "item", but it is not listed under the edit page. Hopefully this has already been removed or somebody will remove it shortly since I was unable to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A9B0:5270:83E:9A0D:9ED3:A559 ( talk) 06:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
I want to add some dates, but I want to check if this is a reliable source first. Can someone please check? Rzzor ( talk) 19:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Esther Hobart Morris is listed in the deaths section, but the main article says she died on April 2. JezGrove ( talk) 10:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
no link or reference. Probably spam 209.128.15.129 ( talk) 14:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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Whoa... for April 3 it has "1968 - Elvis Presley sings "Heartbreak Hotel" on the Milton Berle Show, with an estimated 25% of the United States population viewing." That can't be right. I'm pretty sure that Elvis made his comback special in 1968; it couldn't have anything do with Milton Berle, whose show ended long before 1968. Maybe the person means 1958? And Ed Sullivan? (posted by User:24.218.204.31 at 06:35 UTC, 2005 September 22.)
The following entry under the "Events" header was twice removed: " 1971 - Japanese tokusatsu television series Kamen Rider premieres at 7:00 AM, marking the beginning of the long-running Kamen Rider franchise." Now, based on my reading of this, there is a general agreement that the initial broadcast of television programmes, the release of films, albums, video games, etc. should not be included on these pages. The given reasoning (that these events are not "globally important") is very weak, however; it is demonstrably untrue in many cases, and, in addition, is true of numerous other events that remain on the page.
Beyond this more general issue, however, I must take issue with the removal of this event specifically. As my edit clearly indicated, the premier of Kamen Rider was the beginning of an entire franchise of television programmes and theatrical films that continues to this day, and is one of the most popular and well-known in Japan. If that isn't enough to convince you, then I will note that the programmes have been aired in Brazil, France, and the United States, the original series lasted an unheard of (at the time) three years (150+ episodes), as well as being adapted into three theatrical films. Beyond that, there has been a new programme produced virtually every year since the original, as well as multiple television specials and straight-to-video films during the times when a new series wasn't produced. Essentially, the franchise has been a more-or-less constant premise since the premier.
Please note that I completely understand the aversion to television and film releases, as these are usually insignificant. However, I think that there are exceptions to this rule, and that removing these things wholesale without proper research (even, seemingly, reading the Wikipedia article) and consideration is unproductive.
Thank you for taking the time to reading this.-- SB | T 23:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
What do you propose to use as a measure of impact? Rklawton 23:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I actually watched this show when I was a kid growing up on the other side of the planet in the 1970s where it was and still is known as 幪面超人. It's very notable. 星空奇遇 (Star Trek) was not as popular back then. Both shows were dubbed in Chinese, in case anyone is wondering. I support the inclusion of the premiere in the events list, and even as a Selected Anniversary on MainPage, as long as the date & time is verifiable. -- PFHLai 04:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
BTW, language aside, I don't think checking the internet is that useful to determine the notability of things most popular before the internet age. The first 2 waves of 幪面超人-mania in the Far East (at least in Hong Kong & Taiwan) took place in the 70s and 80s (no internet), roughly the time between when Captain Kirk left and Captain Picard appeared on TV screens. Star Trek then kept going strong, with subsequent spin-offs and movies coming on as the internet grew. This may explain the big difference in Google counts. The numbers would be quite different if people were able to build websites and blogs in the 70s. -- PFHLai 06:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC) [P.S. Thanks for bringing back some interesting childhood memories. :-) ]
On a different note, I'm a big fan of Ultra Man, Godzilla, and Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robot. My poor parents had to contend with a kid who thought stomping on his toys was all part of the fun. I doubt they ever understood. They never ever considered helping me build a model train set. Just as well, I suppose. It wouldn't have lasted. I finally did learn how to fly, though. Rklawton 19:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Can we get a source cited for the death of Jesus Christ being dated at April 3, 33? 66.17.118.195 18:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
The Binghamton shootings, while newsworthy, cannot at this point be considered long-term globally notable events per WP:DOY. They fall under similar classification as most school shootings and should not be listed on this date page. If they turn out to have a widespread impact in a legal or cultural area, then we can begin to debate their notability for inclusion. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 16:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Mick Mars is shown as birthday celebrant for April 3. However, his page lists his birth date as May 4, 1951. One of these is obviously incorrect???? Gaiamei ( talk) 18:16, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
3rd April 1892: Ice Cream Sundae invented. The world-famous dessert, which is made using a combination of ice cream and syrup, was invented in 1892 by New York soda fountain proprietor Chester Platt. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/859828-google-doodle-celebrates-ice-cream-sundae-anniversary
the birth year of Jaya Prada,indian actor is 1962. please change the year. Kvr.lohith ( talk) 16:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Query to RMs125a in particular:
I have tried adding the calculated crucifixion date of Jesus as follows:
You have reverted my edit with the mysterious reason that it is "conjecture" and "speculation", and point to a Wikipedia link, but the Wiki link you provide does not work. So please explain.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.101.95 ( talk) 14:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
References
Amccann421 accuses me of edit-warring, saying "Please do not add or change content, as you did at April 3, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article."
However the other editors have pointed out today to me that in fact it is NOT permitted to cite references/sources in April 3 or in any other Date-of-Year pages. Hence I removed my references. Unfortunately, now Amccann421 has appeared on the scene and is criticising me for removing the refs and accusing me of edit warring. Please confirm, on the April 3 Talk page, that you have got it wrong. And please do not further disrupt the discussion and editing process unless you have a valid point to make. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.101.95 ( talk) 20:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
2018 – An attempt to create Punish a Muslim Day on April 3rd
No links to show it actually happened. No sources, no nothing. This seems very inflammatory to me, especially without anything to back it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A9B0:5270:83E:9A0D:9ED3:A559 ( talk) 06:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC) I just tried to remove this "item", but it is not listed under the edit page. Hopefully this has already been removed or somebody will remove it shortly since I was unable to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A9B0:5270:83E:9A0D:9ED3:A559 ( talk) 06:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
I want to add some dates, but I want to check if this is a reliable source first. Can someone please check? Rzzor ( talk) 19:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Esther Hobart Morris is listed in the deaths section, but the main article says she died on April 2. JezGrove ( talk) 10:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
no link or reference. Probably spam 209.128.15.129 ( talk) 14:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)