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The paragraph starting "Apple has used industry-standard hardware technologies for many years" doesn't seem to contain any criticism, and almost just seems like a promotional paragraph. With all of the other problems and iffy NPOV with that section, should the whole section be flagged as non-NPOV? There seems to be a whole lot more effort put into defense of criticisms, in general. Smeggysmeg 01:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I came across some other criticism here [1]. I don't know how common this POV is among Christian parents. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.228.240.61 ( talk • contribs) 22:46, August 30, 2006 (UTC)
What is up with all these "citation required" and the numereous citations??? So as long as someone cites any publication, then it is all good nevermind that the people who write those articles might not be any more knowledgable than a Wiki writer? The number of citations included just for the list of Apple Fellows is ridiculous. So is requiring a citation describing the length of the crowds at the NYC and Tokyo openings; if I was there and I witnessed it, it doesn't count until someone quotes me in the NY Times? Is there some pedant demanding a citation for everything? There is almost as many citations here as there is in the Homosexuality article; and Apple Computer is a far less controversial topic ... but I guess I would need a citation for that statement too right? 66.171.76.241 04:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
This section was nothing but unreferenced criticisms and has been for a long time. - Mike | trick or treat 13:11, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I've done a little cleanup on it, and removed that awful "Analysis" POV section. Now there are only a few things in need of a citation in the article. The article is well-written and a good timeline. Does anybody object to me nominating this for GA? - Mike | trick or treat 16:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Does this really belong here? I understand that this is a notable enviornmental group, but it seems so out of place with the rest of the article simply being about the history of the company. Thoughs? - Mike | trick or treat 23:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it reall necessary to include it? Lots of major computer corporations have hight Alexa rankings...to me it goes without saying. If it should be listed, it certainly doesn't deserve its own section, so I have moved it to the lead, although I'm not sure that's the best place for it either. - Mike | trick or treat 16:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Per nomination, GA status has been granted and tags applied appropriately. Sourcing looks good, however my major piece of advice would be to shrink this article -- lots of good info, but sometimes we gotta pick and choose what to include. That being said, I think this is a pretty good article. Side note -- I do not own any apple products, and have not contributed to (or, before last night, even read) this article. Good job, guys! / Blaxthos 18:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Should there be financial infirmation $ sales, profits, number of employees XSebX 03:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC) etc. Apple is a publicly traded company. XSebX 03:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I just viewed this page, and saw Apple's 2 previous logos instead of the computer-rendered Apple logo. Shouldn't the logo have stayed as the computer-rendered version? Moronicles 21:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Although not a requirement, I think that standardizing the cite tags would be a big improvement for this article. A lot of the references are of the external-link variety, whereas some ref name="foo" and cite templates would really improve the readability of the article. / Blaxthos 09:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I think that the fact that apple claims to have no viruses on their computers at the current time yet there are known viruses should be added. I recently discovered after reading on apple.com that there are zero known viruses on apple computers running OS X that this is false. There are infact upwards of 44,000 according to one study. I can even provide where I read this. As well, a computer repair man in my local area has also confirmed that this IS true, and he is certified by apple. Crashedata 09:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Why would anyone develop a virus for a Mac? You'd hit almost no computers.
Someone please merge, delete or something to Apple PenLite. -- meatclerk 11:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I do not see any reason to merge the Penlite article. Sorry I just started it lastnight but just because it has very little info due to it being a new article doesn't mean it should be deleted or merged right away. There is plenty of info not on there yet to warrant it being an article of its own. -- Borisborf 23:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
there's been a lot of buzz about the upcoming iPhone, I've seen several articles on news sites... should it be mentioned? (I would do it, but I have no idea how) -- will200557 Dec. 4, 2006
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The paragraph starting "Apple has used industry-standard hardware technologies for many years" doesn't seem to contain any criticism, and almost just seems like a promotional paragraph. With all of the other problems and iffy NPOV with that section, should the whole section be flagged as non-NPOV? There seems to be a whole lot more effort put into defense of criticisms, in general. Smeggysmeg 01:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I came across some other criticism here [1]. I don't know how common this POV is among Christian parents. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.228.240.61 ( talk • contribs) 22:46, August 30, 2006 (UTC)
What is up with all these "citation required" and the numereous citations??? So as long as someone cites any publication, then it is all good nevermind that the people who write those articles might not be any more knowledgable than a Wiki writer? The number of citations included just for the list of Apple Fellows is ridiculous. So is requiring a citation describing the length of the crowds at the NYC and Tokyo openings; if I was there and I witnessed it, it doesn't count until someone quotes me in the NY Times? Is there some pedant demanding a citation for everything? There is almost as many citations here as there is in the Homosexuality article; and Apple Computer is a far less controversial topic ... but I guess I would need a citation for that statement too right? 66.171.76.241 04:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
This section was nothing but unreferenced criticisms and has been for a long time. - Mike | trick or treat 13:11, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I've done a little cleanup on it, and removed that awful "Analysis" POV section. Now there are only a few things in need of a citation in the article. The article is well-written and a good timeline. Does anybody object to me nominating this for GA? - Mike | trick or treat 16:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Does this really belong here? I understand that this is a notable enviornmental group, but it seems so out of place with the rest of the article simply being about the history of the company. Thoughs? - Mike | trick or treat 23:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it reall necessary to include it? Lots of major computer corporations have hight Alexa rankings...to me it goes without saying. If it should be listed, it certainly doesn't deserve its own section, so I have moved it to the lead, although I'm not sure that's the best place for it either. - Mike | trick or treat 16:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Per nomination, GA status has been granted and tags applied appropriately. Sourcing looks good, however my major piece of advice would be to shrink this article -- lots of good info, but sometimes we gotta pick and choose what to include. That being said, I think this is a pretty good article. Side note -- I do not own any apple products, and have not contributed to (or, before last night, even read) this article. Good job, guys! / Blaxthos 18:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Should there be financial infirmation $ sales, profits, number of employees XSebX 03:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC) etc. Apple is a publicly traded company. XSebX 03:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I just viewed this page, and saw Apple's 2 previous logos instead of the computer-rendered Apple logo. Shouldn't the logo have stayed as the computer-rendered version? Moronicles 21:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Although not a requirement, I think that standardizing the cite tags would be a big improvement for this article. A lot of the references are of the external-link variety, whereas some ref name="foo" and cite templates would really improve the readability of the article. / Blaxthos 09:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I think that the fact that apple claims to have no viruses on their computers at the current time yet there are known viruses should be added. I recently discovered after reading on apple.com that there are zero known viruses on apple computers running OS X that this is false. There are infact upwards of 44,000 according to one study. I can even provide where I read this. As well, a computer repair man in my local area has also confirmed that this IS true, and he is certified by apple. Crashedata 09:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Why would anyone develop a virus for a Mac? You'd hit almost no computers.
Someone please merge, delete or something to Apple PenLite. -- meatclerk 11:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I do not see any reason to merge the Penlite article. Sorry I just started it lastnight but just because it has very little info due to it being a new article doesn't mean it should be deleted or merged right away. There is plenty of info not on there yet to warrant it being an article of its own. -- Borisborf 23:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
there's been a lot of buzz about the upcoming iPhone, I've seen several articles on news sites... should it be mentioned? (I would do it, but I have no idea how) -- will200557 Dec. 4, 2006