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The result of the move request was: page moved. ( non-admin closure) Hot Stop talk- contribs 04:15, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Aparri, Cagayan →
Aparri – The municipality is the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Aparri" (it is actually the
only topic here in Wikipedia with the precise name of "Aparri" as of this move request).
seav (
talk) 16:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
The statement above is the main reason for the move (so that the listing at WP:RM is short) but here is an extensive argument to further support the move.
In addition to being the primary (only) topic, the simple name "Aparri" best meets the article title policy. As stated in the policy, we have 5 criteria:
I think there is no debate that "Aparri" by itself is recognizable already, helped especially by the
lyrics of a popular
noontime variety show's theme song. "Aparri" by itself is also naturally used as evidenced by
Google Books results. Per the precision criterion (also
WP:PRECISE), "Aparri" by itself is already precise enough. Making it more precise by adding the province name is superfluous. Per the conciseness criterion, "Aparri" by itself is no longer than necessary
. And per
WP:CONCISE, "Aparri" is already recognizable, so having a longer name would then not meet
WP:CONCISE.
It is only the consistency criterion that may favor the longer title since Philippine municipalities currently have the format "<municipality name>, <province name>" as suggested by the WP:MOSPHIL naming convention, but it should be noted that Philippine cities, which are at the same administrative level as municipalities, are at the base "<city name>" title format, unless disambiguation is needed. Furthermore, other place name articles in Wikipedia do not have a problem with articles not having the same title format, such as the communes of Chevry, Ain and Cleyzieu in the department of Ain in France. This is the practice in almost all countries of the world (with the notable exception of the United States and Japan).
In addition, there is precedent in this kind of move against naming conventions. For example, Chicago, Illinois was moved to Chicago before WP:USPLACE adopted the AP stylebook exception list, and Ballarat, Victoria was moved to Ballarat before the Australian place naming conventions abandoned the comma convention. Here in the Philippines, we have 2 recent successful municipality article title move requests: Banaue, Ifugao → Banaue and Sagada, Mountain Province → Sagada. — seav ( talk) 16:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: page moved. ( non-admin closure) Hot Stop talk- contribs 04:15, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Aparri, Cagayan →
Aparri – The municipality is the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Aparri" (it is actually the
only topic here in Wikipedia with the precise name of "Aparri" as of this move request).
seav (
talk) 16:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
The statement above is the main reason for the move (so that the listing at WP:RM is short) but here is an extensive argument to further support the move.
In addition to being the primary (only) topic, the simple name "Aparri" best meets the article title policy. As stated in the policy, we have 5 criteria:
I think there is no debate that "Aparri" by itself is recognizable already, helped especially by the
lyrics of a popular
noontime variety show's theme song. "Aparri" by itself is also naturally used as evidenced by
Google Books results. Per the precision criterion (also
WP:PRECISE), "Aparri" by itself is already precise enough. Making it more precise by adding the province name is superfluous. Per the conciseness criterion, "Aparri" by itself is no longer than necessary
. And per
WP:CONCISE, "Aparri" is already recognizable, so having a longer name would then not meet
WP:CONCISE.
It is only the consistency criterion that may favor the longer title since Philippine municipalities currently have the format "<municipality name>, <province name>" as suggested by the WP:MOSPHIL naming convention, but it should be noted that Philippine cities, which are at the same administrative level as municipalities, are at the base "<city name>" title format, unless disambiguation is needed. Furthermore, other place name articles in Wikipedia do not have a problem with articles not having the same title format, such as the communes of Chevry, Ain and Cleyzieu in the department of Ain in France. This is the practice in almost all countries of the world (with the notable exception of the United States and Japan).
In addition, there is precedent in this kind of move against naming conventions. For example, Chicago, Illinois was moved to Chicago before WP:USPLACE adopted the AP stylebook exception list, and Ballarat, Victoria was moved to Ballarat before the Australian place naming conventions abandoned the comma convention. Here in the Philippines, we have 2 recent successful municipality article title move requests: Banaue, Ifugao → Banaue and Sagada, Mountain Province → Sagada. — seav ( talk) 16:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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