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I am removing "In April 2015, the new Minister of State for Drugs Strategy admitted he tried drugs when on holiday in Amsterdam." What the reference actually says is "Mr Ó Ríordáin said he had tried drugs once in Amsterdam as a student but had not taken any illegal drugs." However, the way Ruy costa has written this, it would appear as if Ó Ríordáin was lighting up spliffs or snorting coke since his appointment, last month. In reality, it was cannabis, and would presumably have been nearly 20 years ago.
As to relevance - we have British ministers and Home Secretaries and American Presidents, Senators and Governors, (some involved in the War on Drugs, no less!) whose articles don't mention their drug use. A student using legal drugs nearly 20 years ago - not encyclopedic, not notable.
Your (po-faced) PoV is showing. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:26, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Anon IP editor 89.101.77.151, previously describing a clarification posted on O'Riordain's blog covered by one newspaper in one article as a "major controversy", says "This individual has been involved in numerous controversies, which need to be noted on Wikipedia, in order to provide as full and accurate information as possible to the reader, in accordance with Wikipedia's goals and aims." Yes, WP should describe major controversies. It should not describe non-events. Major controversies are covered by multiple media outlets, go viral on social media, are things "everyone" has heard of. O'Riordáin being subject to a hidden tape where he talks about Labour policy on abortion meets those criteria, and is worthy of inclusion. Clarifying something on his blog about the "Clontarf Report" which gets one hit on Google News, or deleting a tweet about the origin of chicken? Not so much. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I found this article oddly underlinked compared with standard Wikipedia practice, but also with some odd and repetitious passages, one of which was clearly out-of-date information - so I've tried to sort out both. I hope it meets with everyone's approval. Harfarhs ( talk) 12:29, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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Who says that this is not a reliable source? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 15:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
If only you hadn't mis-read "not-notable op-ed" as "not a reliable source". Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
A series of IP editors and others ( AodhanORiordain) keep removing the fact that the subject is married to Áine Kerr, stating he's divorced. Problem is, there's a reliable source for the marriage, none for a divorce. We need a WP:RS for that to be recorded. Twitter and Instagram are not reliable sources for this ( WP:SPS). If there's anything else publicly available that backs this up, please let us know. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 17:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
A new user @ Zarammk: has once again removed the info about Áine Kerr. The source provided is The Sun but per WP:DEPSOURCES, The Sun is not considered a reliable source for Wikipedia. Also, the source does not mention a divorce but that Ó Ríordáin has had a child with his current partner. I had added a reference for this from Ó Ríordáin's personal Twitter/X page. I do not see any reliable reference for a divorce but I think we can at least assume that Ó Ríordáin and Kerr are separated, and I have put this in the infobox. Spleodrach ( talk) 15:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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I am removing "In April 2015, the new Minister of State for Drugs Strategy admitted he tried drugs when on holiday in Amsterdam." What the reference actually says is "Mr Ó Ríordáin said he had tried drugs once in Amsterdam as a student but had not taken any illegal drugs." However, the way Ruy costa has written this, it would appear as if Ó Ríordáin was lighting up spliffs or snorting coke since his appointment, last month. In reality, it was cannabis, and would presumably have been nearly 20 years ago.
As to relevance - we have British ministers and Home Secretaries and American Presidents, Senators and Governors, (some involved in the War on Drugs, no less!) whose articles don't mention their drug use. A student using legal drugs nearly 20 years ago - not encyclopedic, not notable.
Your (po-faced) PoV is showing. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:26, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Anon IP editor 89.101.77.151, previously describing a clarification posted on O'Riordain's blog covered by one newspaper in one article as a "major controversy", says "This individual has been involved in numerous controversies, which need to be noted on Wikipedia, in order to provide as full and accurate information as possible to the reader, in accordance with Wikipedia's goals and aims." Yes, WP should describe major controversies. It should not describe non-events. Major controversies are covered by multiple media outlets, go viral on social media, are things "everyone" has heard of. O'Riordáin being subject to a hidden tape where he talks about Labour policy on abortion meets those criteria, and is worthy of inclusion. Clarifying something on his blog about the "Clontarf Report" which gets one hit on Google News, or deleting a tweet about the origin of chicken? Not so much. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I found this article oddly underlinked compared with standard Wikipedia practice, but also with some odd and repetitious passages, one of which was clearly out-of-date information - so I've tried to sort out both. I hope it meets with everyone's approval. Harfarhs ( talk) 12:29, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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Who says that this is not a reliable source? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 15:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
If only you hadn't mis-read "not-notable op-ed" as "not a reliable source". Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
A series of IP editors and others ( AodhanORiordain) keep removing the fact that the subject is married to Áine Kerr, stating he's divorced. Problem is, there's a reliable source for the marriage, none for a divorce. We need a WP:RS for that to be recorded. Twitter and Instagram are not reliable sources for this ( WP:SPS). If there's anything else publicly available that backs this up, please let us know. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 17:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
A new user @ Zarammk: has once again removed the info about Áine Kerr. The source provided is The Sun but per WP:DEPSOURCES, The Sun is not considered a reliable source for Wikipedia. Also, the source does not mention a divorce but that Ó Ríordáin has had a child with his current partner. I had added a reference for this from Ó Ríordáin's personal Twitter/X page. I do not see any reliable reference for a divorce but I think we can at least assume that Ó Ríordáin and Kerr are separated, and I have put this in the infobox. Spleodrach ( talk) 15:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)