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I removed the text mentioning that Anund died during an attack against Finland. This information is not found in any historical source I know of regarding Anunds's reign (and I think I know them all). Nor do I recognise the theory from any litterature I have read about the subject (Swedish and English books). A similar addition was removed earlier because it was obviously wrong, confusing the Swedish king Anund Jacob with his nephew prince Anund Emundsson who died during an viking raid to the Land of the Women. That land have by some been identified with a Finnish speaking area in northern Sweden and Finland, while others have more convincingly identified it with Georgia in the Caucasus.
To put it short, the teory appears to be a loony-theory, and even if it have a reference to a Finnish book published in 1997, it should not be added again without an explanation on what historical sources the theory is based on. If it is what I suspect, wild speculation without general support from the scientific community, it should not be included at all.-- 84.217.122.84 ( talk) 21:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
The point was added in the first place because it is very common knowledge in Finland (as one could expect). The book from which the info was taken is written by a person of academic backround, so the source is of course trustworthy, as according to the Wikipedia standards. And there are at least half a dozen other books mentioning it, in Finnish. Indeed, the idea that it would have been some other Anund makes me wonder as I'm well informed on available sources, texts and books on this matter. By the way, who says Women's land is in Georgia? (Totally unheard-before theory, and not just to me personally.) So, it's not a loony theory or wild speculation unsupported by scientific community. I'm not sure from what corner of planet Earth you two hail from, but I can tell in Finland it's not something to normally debate of or question but indeed something that has been printed on history books for an century, if not more. There seems to be very little this kind of knowledge at all outside Finnish academic circles (it seems not even in Swedish academic circles, which is odd considering the subject at hand) and for 99,99% time these facts or stories are not published in English language books. Not because they lack credibility but because English-speaking academia is not interested or more probably has never even been aware of the whole matter. So, this is not the only article in English-language Wikipedia to suffer from this kind of selective use of sources (ie. if it's not mentioned in English language sources nobody adds it to Wikipedia and even if somebody does, it's automatically considered rubbish by other not-so-well-informed editors even when the source is valid and academically approved). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.248.138.208 ( talk) 21:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
As per a source added now, I believe it has been clearly established that Anwynd is an English exonym, albeit not too too famous, for the Swedish name Anund. James is a well known English exonym for Swedish Jakob. Thus I believe the English name form Anwynd James warrants a mention in the lede. SergeWoodzing ( talk) 13:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
So much for WP policy to always mention exonyms (4th par. lead of guideline)? SergeWoodzing ( talk) 00:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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I removed the text mentioning that Anund died during an attack against Finland. This information is not found in any historical source I know of regarding Anunds's reign (and I think I know them all). Nor do I recognise the theory from any litterature I have read about the subject (Swedish and English books). A similar addition was removed earlier because it was obviously wrong, confusing the Swedish king Anund Jacob with his nephew prince Anund Emundsson who died during an viking raid to the Land of the Women. That land have by some been identified with a Finnish speaking area in northern Sweden and Finland, while others have more convincingly identified it with Georgia in the Caucasus.
To put it short, the teory appears to be a loony-theory, and even if it have a reference to a Finnish book published in 1997, it should not be added again without an explanation on what historical sources the theory is based on. If it is what I suspect, wild speculation without general support from the scientific community, it should not be included at all.-- 84.217.122.84 ( talk) 21:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
The point was added in the first place because it is very common knowledge in Finland (as one could expect). The book from which the info was taken is written by a person of academic backround, so the source is of course trustworthy, as according to the Wikipedia standards. And there are at least half a dozen other books mentioning it, in Finnish. Indeed, the idea that it would have been some other Anund makes me wonder as I'm well informed on available sources, texts and books on this matter. By the way, who says Women's land is in Georgia? (Totally unheard-before theory, and not just to me personally.) So, it's not a loony theory or wild speculation unsupported by scientific community. I'm not sure from what corner of planet Earth you two hail from, but I can tell in Finland it's not something to normally debate of or question but indeed something that has been printed on history books for an century, if not more. There seems to be very little this kind of knowledge at all outside Finnish academic circles (it seems not even in Swedish academic circles, which is odd considering the subject at hand) and for 99,99% time these facts or stories are not published in English language books. Not because they lack credibility but because English-speaking academia is not interested or more probably has never even been aware of the whole matter. So, this is not the only article in English-language Wikipedia to suffer from this kind of selective use of sources (ie. if it's not mentioned in English language sources nobody adds it to Wikipedia and even if somebody does, it's automatically considered rubbish by other not-so-well-informed editors even when the source is valid and academically approved). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.248.138.208 ( talk) 21:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
As per a source added now, I believe it has been clearly established that Anwynd is an English exonym, albeit not too too famous, for the Swedish name Anund. James is a well known English exonym for Swedish Jakob. Thus I believe the English name form Anwynd James warrants a mention in the lede. SergeWoodzing ( talk) 13:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
So much for WP policy to always mention exonyms (4th par. lead of guideline)? SergeWoodzing ( talk) 00:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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I am going to roll back all recent edits by an IP primarily because of very poor English, incomprehensible in part, and also due to a lack of reliable sourcing (personal interpretation of old stories?). -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 13:53, 22 December 2021 (UTC)