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Before recent edits by DHeyward, the text read
Although the bolded phrase was not formatted as a quote, it does use the language used by the interviewer, and this is critical because it defines the pronoun "they" in Watts' quote. DHeyward altered the meaning away from the RS by changing the bold text so that it instead reads climate change activists. Watts was not asked about "climate change activists", he was asked about "people who say there is a lot of global warming". Many many many people say that, and while they might want the things Watts describes they are totally inactive trying to make it happen.
To cure this problem, I then imported a direct quote for the journalist's question. What's more WP:VERIFIABLE and objective than that? The result read
OOPS! While "climate change activists" was somehow dandy, apparently the verbatim question-and-answer is somehow toxic waste, which D removed entirely, with the edit summary
Say what? "spans multiple questions/answers"?? No it doesn't. There is this question, followed by this answer. Read the transcript in the ref. Plain as my nose.
Side-bar, Watts' answer to the verbatim question "What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?" became the focus of commentary. There are 1500 Google hits on the verbatim question combined with "Watts". For example, Skeptical Science's Dana 1981 wrote,
CONCLUSION The text should be restored to show both the question and the answer because
@ DHeyward: please self-revert.
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The article's Further reading lists 20+ publications from 2011 to 2015. WP:FURTHER says the section "... and should normally not duplicate the content of the References section, unless the References section is too long for a reader to use as part of a general reading list." but some authors (e.g. Brainard, Mann, Menne) are already cited in the References. WP:FURTHER also says WP:EL requirements should be followed, and WP:ELNO says "A general site that has information about a variety of subjects should usually not be linked from an article on a more specific subject." but these publications appear to be general works about climate rather than specific works about Mr Watts. I intend to remove the section unless there are defences soon. Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 14:53, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Heartland Institute website lists him as a senior fellow. That seems to be relevant. Also, according to weather.gov a BA degree is a minimum requirement to be a meteorologist; the article seems to say he doesn't have a degree. 2600:1010:B1AB:C8AD:8995:3456:BCF6:5F87 ( talk) 00:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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Before recent edits by DHeyward, the text read
Although the bolded phrase was not formatted as a quote, it does use the language used by the interviewer, and this is critical because it defines the pronoun "they" in Watts' quote. DHeyward altered the meaning away from the RS by changing the bold text so that it instead reads climate change activists. Watts was not asked about "climate change activists", he was asked about "people who say there is a lot of global warming". Many many many people say that, and while they might want the things Watts describes they are totally inactive trying to make it happen.
To cure this problem, I then imported a direct quote for the journalist's question. What's more WP:VERIFIABLE and objective than that? The result read
OOPS! While "climate change activists" was somehow dandy, apparently the verbatim question-and-answer is somehow toxic waste, which D removed entirely, with the edit summary
Say what? "spans multiple questions/answers"?? No it doesn't. There is this question, followed by this answer. Read the transcript in the ref. Plain as my nose.
Side-bar, Watts' answer to the verbatim question "What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?" became the focus of commentary. There are 1500 Google hits on the verbatim question combined with "Watts". For example, Skeptical Science's Dana 1981 wrote,
CONCLUSION The text should be restored to show both the question and the answer because
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Heartland Institute website lists him as a senior fellow. That seems to be relevant. Also, according to weather.gov a BA degree is a minimum requirement to be a meteorologist; the article seems to say he doesn't have a degree. 2600:1010:B1AB:C8AD:8995:3456:BCF6:5F87 ( talk) 00:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)