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what about the story that his surname was Quintanilla?
Kind of surprised there's no mention of the film " Barabbas(1962)" Millions of people got Quinn's image burned into the memory as the face of the man who was spared cruxifiction by the Jerusalem mob who chose to spare him versus Jesus, according to the Bible. I'd think that the film is notable, irrespective of the movie's box office performance, or reviews of Quinn's performance. It is widely screened on TV every year during the Easter season, and that must make it one of his most watched films, not only in the United States, but in all predominently Christian countries. Scupper 13:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I often consult Wikipedia on show business matters. Nearly always, the entries all well-written, and I would guess that that is the case because they are written by professional publicists. This entry is a curious exception; while I cannot dispute the facts, the prose was in need of a lot of polish, which I proceeded to supply. I revere Quinn as a Hollywood giant and as a manly man, but have not seen all that many of his films (e.g., I have never seen Viva Zapata). My favorite Quinn role is the title role in The Magus. I did not know that Quinn was a rogue in the bedroom until I read this entry. I suppose the idea of bearing Anthony Quinn's child must have thrilled more than one pretty woman. 202.36.179.65 21:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
In an earlier appearance on The Tonight Show hosted by Johnny Carson, Quinn remarked that people were coming up to him and saying, "ZORBA", carrying on in Greek in a vain attempt at conversation. I think he was being modest because he said, "I don't speak a word of Greek. I'm Mexican." I recently saw him in a Fellini film, speaking what sounded, (to me), like perfect Italian. Granted, competency in Spanish, English and Italian do not a Greek speaker make.-- W8IMP 03:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Missing from movie titles. 72.47.9.64 ( talk · contribs) - 06:37, 3 July 2007
Missing from movie credits - 12.178.74.70 ( talk · contribs) - 03:58, 5 July 2007
Quinn was both an actor and "movie star" of considerably greater note than the former lead indicated. The article as a whole does a decent and well-intended job of skimming through Quinn's career but misses several essential points - that he was a massive presence in the films he made, that he was a major box office draw, and that most of his films prior to 1970 were A level major studio releases that were widely discussed and frequently very popular.
The shortcomings of this article are reflective of a broad problem in Wiki articles on popular culture: since computer/internet use in the U.S. still skews rather younger than older, articles tend do give undue weight to living subjects and relatively recent phenomena. The median age in the U.S. is now 36.5 years or so, which would put half the country born in 1971 or after. That could account for why cinema lightweights like James van der Beek and Jennifer Aniston among many others get as much cyber ink as a figure of far greater significance as Quinn was and is. (A related outrage - one of hundreds - would be to compare space given to Gary Cooper to Tom Cruise - other heavyweight vs. flyweight examples abound.)
The rewrite of the lead is a first step. The rest of the article provides, as noted above, an acceptable framework on which to build an article more worthy of its subject. Sensei48 ( talk) 05:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Due to his high-profile Greek-character roles, not just Zorba but also Aristotle Onassis and Guns of Navarone, I am certain I have seen printed articles and definitely online articles, erroneously referring to Anthony Quinn as being, himself, Greek. Of course when I want to add the information, I can't find it. So I'm mentioning it here in case anyone can provide sourcing so it can be added to the article that despite being Mexican, Quinn is often mistaken for Greek because of these roles. He's in good company: Israeli-born Chaim Topol is often thought of as a Russian actor because of Fiddler on the Roof. 68.146.81.123 ( talk) 18:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I am puzzled why this article about a Hollywood movie actor would interest WikiProject Christianity / Charismatic. Late in life he joined an evangelical Christian church, but so what? HairyWombat 01:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Later. I have removed WikiProject Christianity / Charismatic. HairyWombat 13:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I have moved the awards into a single sub-section; for some reason they were separated. The two tables still need to be combined. I don't know why they were ever separate, so hesitate to do this myself. Perhaps somebody who knows better the history of this page should do this. HairyWombat 14:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Later. I have removed one of the two tables. HairyWombat 13:33, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Quinn is famous as an actor. I think this article was started long before the MOS for these types of article was created. Nowadays they discusses the career rather than just make a narrative, with the acting fitted in along the way.
This article should start with his career, then add a personal life to fill in the rest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.123.245 ( talk) 11:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
The location of death in the info box on top right does not match what's described under title Death in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.60.28.223 ( talk) 20:27, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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The article has at least two conflicting versions of his birth name -- one in the body of the text (Antonio Reyes), another in the Box (Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca). Can someone with access to good sources sort out this confusion? Nandt1 ( talk) 16:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Having disposed of Sr. Reyes (above), I see that we still have an issue over his first name at birth. Our article says Antonio, but a couple of sources say Anthony. Would someone like to look further into this aspect? Nandt1 ( talk) 21:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't see any reference that shows Anthony Quinn obtained U.S. citizenship. If not, he should technically be referred to as a Mexican actor, not a Mexican American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.214.4 ( talk) 05:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
His autobiography mentions an additional unnamed French son. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.136.164.83 ( talk) 16:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
When I was an architecture student, a batch of us went to Taliesin. On our tour, one of the tales we were told was that Quinn was born tongue-tied. Wright was supposedly the one who urged Quinn to get a surgical repair of the condition. It would improve client presentations for him if he stayed in architecture and it paved the way for his acting career. Is there any truth to this tale? Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 00:15, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a small but significant section on Quinn's alleged interest in the Mafia. The longer first paragraph has no citation, the second short paragraph has one citation that doesn't exist and a second from an interview of others, conducted by a game show host, given after Quinn's death. This requires readers to find the interview and go through it, looking for such a dubious claim. The section says Quinn had a "personal relationship" with organized crime figures. It is all vague and unproven. Perhaps Quinn merely wanted to play an Italian character and was doing research. It would be like saying Quinn was the Pope because he played one in a movie (which he did, of course). The Mafia section should be completely erased for lack of evidence. Purplethree ( talk) 16:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Quinn actually died of pneumonia and throat cancer. ( 217.42.104.101 ( talk) 16:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC))
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Looks good, except as usual there are no references. Yksin 05:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC) |
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All his notable activities were in the US, he's done nothing notable in Mexico and article states he wasn't even accepted in Mexico due to his name. MOS:CONTEXTBIO says "neither previous nationalities nor the country of birth should be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability" so Mexico shouldn't be in the intro sentence or lead as not relevant to his notability. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 22:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
he remains a seminal figure of Latin-American representation in the media of the United States. Also, it seems his Mexican nationality has always been mentioned in the lede until quite recently. Unless there is consensus to the contrary, we should re-add it. Vpab15 ( talk) 07:58, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Per the above guidance, we do not add ethnicity ("Jewish-American") or country of birth ("Russian-born American"). These details can be introduced in the second sentence if they are of defining importance.) Schazjmd (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
someone who emigrated as a child and continued to identify as a citizen of their adopted country. Doesn't that apply to Quinn? Schazjmd (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
someone who emigrated as a child and continued to identify as a citizen of their adopted country, which doesn't necessarily apply to this article. Vpab15 ( talk) 15:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
With a name like Quinn, I wasn’t totally accepted by the Mexican community in those days, and as a Mexican I wasn’t accepted as an American. So as a kid I just decided, well, ‘A plague on both your houses. I’ll just become a world citizen.’ So that’s what I did. Acting is my nationality. Vpab15 ( talk) 16:40, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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what about the story that his surname was Quintanilla?
Kind of surprised there's no mention of the film " Barabbas(1962)" Millions of people got Quinn's image burned into the memory as the face of the man who was spared cruxifiction by the Jerusalem mob who chose to spare him versus Jesus, according to the Bible. I'd think that the film is notable, irrespective of the movie's box office performance, or reviews of Quinn's performance. It is widely screened on TV every year during the Easter season, and that must make it one of his most watched films, not only in the United States, but in all predominently Christian countries. Scupper 13:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I often consult Wikipedia on show business matters. Nearly always, the entries all well-written, and I would guess that that is the case because they are written by professional publicists. This entry is a curious exception; while I cannot dispute the facts, the prose was in need of a lot of polish, which I proceeded to supply. I revere Quinn as a Hollywood giant and as a manly man, but have not seen all that many of his films (e.g., I have never seen Viva Zapata). My favorite Quinn role is the title role in The Magus. I did not know that Quinn was a rogue in the bedroom until I read this entry. I suppose the idea of bearing Anthony Quinn's child must have thrilled more than one pretty woman. 202.36.179.65 21:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
In an earlier appearance on The Tonight Show hosted by Johnny Carson, Quinn remarked that people were coming up to him and saying, "ZORBA", carrying on in Greek in a vain attempt at conversation. I think he was being modest because he said, "I don't speak a word of Greek. I'm Mexican." I recently saw him in a Fellini film, speaking what sounded, (to me), like perfect Italian. Granted, competency in Spanish, English and Italian do not a Greek speaker make.-- W8IMP 03:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Missing from movie titles. 72.47.9.64 ( talk · contribs) - 06:37, 3 July 2007
Missing from movie credits - 12.178.74.70 ( talk · contribs) - 03:58, 5 July 2007
Quinn was both an actor and "movie star" of considerably greater note than the former lead indicated. The article as a whole does a decent and well-intended job of skimming through Quinn's career but misses several essential points - that he was a massive presence in the films he made, that he was a major box office draw, and that most of his films prior to 1970 were A level major studio releases that were widely discussed and frequently very popular.
The shortcomings of this article are reflective of a broad problem in Wiki articles on popular culture: since computer/internet use in the U.S. still skews rather younger than older, articles tend do give undue weight to living subjects and relatively recent phenomena. The median age in the U.S. is now 36.5 years or so, which would put half the country born in 1971 or after. That could account for why cinema lightweights like James van der Beek and Jennifer Aniston among many others get as much cyber ink as a figure of far greater significance as Quinn was and is. (A related outrage - one of hundreds - would be to compare space given to Gary Cooper to Tom Cruise - other heavyweight vs. flyweight examples abound.)
The rewrite of the lead is a first step. The rest of the article provides, as noted above, an acceptable framework on which to build an article more worthy of its subject. Sensei48 ( talk) 05:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Due to his high-profile Greek-character roles, not just Zorba but also Aristotle Onassis and Guns of Navarone, I am certain I have seen printed articles and definitely online articles, erroneously referring to Anthony Quinn as being, himself, Greek. Of course when I want to add the information, I can't find it. So I'm mentioning it here in case anyone can provide sourcing so it can be added to the article that despite being Mexican, Quinn is often mistaken for Greek because of these roles. He's in good company: Israeli-born Chaim Topol is often thought of as a Russian actor because of Fiddler on the Roof. 68.146.81.123 ( talk) 18:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I am puzzled why this article about a Hollywood movie actor would interest WikiProject Christianity / Charismatic. Late in life he joined an evangelical Christian church, but so what? HairyWombat 01:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Later. I have removed WikiProject Christianity / Charismatic. HairyWombat 13:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I have moved the awards into a single sub-section; for some reason they were separated. The two tables still need to be combined. I don't know why they were ever separate, so hesitate to do this myself. Perhaps somebody who knows better the history of this page should do this. HairyWombat 14:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Later. I have removed one of the two tables. HairyWombat 13:33, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Quinn is famous as an actor. I think this article was started long before the MOS for these types of article was created. Nowadays they discusses the career rather than just make a narrative, with the acting fitted in along the way.
This article should start with his career, then add a personal life to fill in the rest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.123.245 ( talk) 11:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
The location of death in the info box on top right does not match what's described under title Death in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.60.28.223 ( talk) 20:27, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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The article has at least two conflicting versions of his birth name -- one in the body of the text (Antonio Reyes), another in the Box (Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca). Can someone with access to good sources sort out this confusion? Nandt1 ( talk) 16:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Having disposed of Sr. Reyes (above), I see that we still have an issue over his first name at birth. Our article says Antonio, but a couple of sources say Anthony. Would someone like to look further into this aspect? Nandt1 ( talk) 21:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't see any reference that shows Anthony Quinn obtained U.S. citizenship. If not, he should technically be referred to as a Mexican actor, not a Mexican American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.214.4 ( talk) 05:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
His autobiography mentions an additional unnamed French son. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.136.164.83 ( talk) 16:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
When I was an architecture student, a batch of us went to Taliesin. On our tour, one of the tales we were told was that Quinn was born tongue-tied. Wright was supposedly the one who urged Quinn to get a surgical repair of the condition. It would improve client presentations for him if he stayed in architecture and it paved the way for his acting career. Is there any truth to this tale? Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 00:15, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a small but significant section on Quinn's alleged interest in the Mafia. The longer first paragraph has no citation, the second short paragraph has one citation that doesn't exist and a second from an interview of others, conducted by a game show host, given after Quinn's death. This requires readers to find the interview and go through it, looking for such a dubious claim. The section says Quinn had a "personal relationship" with organized crime figures. It is all vague and unproven. Perhaps Quinn merely wanted to play an Italian character and was doing research. It would be like saying Quinn was the Pope because he played one in a movie (which he did, of course). The Mafia section should be completely erased for lack of evidence. Purplethree ( talk) 16:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Quinn actually died of pneumonia and throat cancer. ( 217.42.104.101 ( talk) 16:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC))
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Anthony Quinn/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Looks good, except as usual there are no references. Yksin 05:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC) |
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All his notable activities were in the US, he's done nothing notable in Mexico and article states he wasn't even accepted in Mexico due to his name. MOS:CONTEXTBIO says "neither previous nationalities nor the country of birth should be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability" so Mexico shouldn't be in the intro sentence or lead as not relevant to his notability. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 22:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
he remains a seminal figure of Latin-American representation in the media of the United States. Also, it seems his Mexican nationality has always been mentioned in the lede until quite recently. Unless there is consensus to the contrary, we should re-add it. Vpab15 ( talk) 07:58, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Per the above guidance, we do not add ethnicity ("Jewish-American") or country of birth ("Russian-born American"). These details can be introduced in the second sentence if they are of defining importance.) Schazjmd (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
someone who emigrated as a child and continued to identify as a citizen of their adopted country. Doesn't that apply to Quinn? Schazjmd (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
someone who emigrated as a child and continued to identify as a citizen of their adopted country, which doesn't necessarily apply to this article. Vpab15 ( talk) 15:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
With a name like Quinn, I wasn’t totally accepted by the Mexican community in those days, and as a Mexican I wasn’t accepted as an American. So as a kid I just decided, well, ‘A plague on both your houses. I’ll just become a world citizen.’ So that’s what I did. Acting is my nationality. Vpab15 ( talk) 16:40, 7 July 2023 (UTC)