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would Another be at a Book store in the U.S perferably near New Jersey? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.108.124 ( talk) 07:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm reading the manga and the novel. So far have readed the 3 first manga tankôbon, and up to Interlude I of the novel (about 1/3). I just added some plot, but it could be certainly improved in copyedit and redaction (I have several things to add but can't find a way of expressing it in few paragraphs). So far first edit is about 3/4 of the story until Interlude I. What's left until there is Kôichi's visits to the puppet store, her talks with Mei and the first death. Will add more as I progress in the reading. pmt7ar ( talk) 22:52, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
About references, I have no problem on looking down source references for any challenged affirmation, so I'll try to complete any citation needed tag if it's something I have already read. Just noticed that the reference list could turn very extensive, so I decided just to point the pages and avoid quotation (plus, avoid if any copyright issues). I left now a unsolved tag, from an edit made by Player017 ( [1] [2]) made by the same Player017 ( [3]). Is he requesting a citation for his own statement? (If the edit was correct, I still haven't got to that point yet. For me Kôichi still wonders if there is any connection, not if she died because of that. Plus, her mother died 15 years ago, and it was 26 years ago when she was 15y.o. and in [class 3-3]. So 11 years passed after the original incident, she married and all before dying. Was the edit made with knowledge of the plot or it deviated from the edits?) pmt7ar ( talk) 17:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
People do not seem to understand what a plot is. It is not a list of spoilers. Use the following for the plot: The story begins that a junior high school transferee named Koichi Sakakibara meets a mysterious girl in a hospital. She, named Mei Misaki, wears an eyepatch and go to mortuary with a sentece "My half body wait for me". Koichi meets her again on the first day of school and says hello but she alert hime not to speak to her and says "Beware. It might be happened". Koichi puzzles against her inscrutable caution. And then he find that other classmated and teachers treat her as non-existent girl. They don't see her and avoid to speak about it. Is she a goast or something? What is happening in his class? At last Koichi hears from his aunt from the story of a prestigious girl in the same class from 26 years before that died in an accident. Refusing to accept it her classmates kept pretending she was still alive. In that year' graduation commemorative photograph, the girl supposedly not to be was there. Koichi intuits a connection between the 26 year-old incident and what is happening on Mei Misaki. At that time, Koichi's classmate terriblely died in school as well as the old incident. Mei Misaki pronounces gravely: "It's starting". 04:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)04:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)04:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC) Musicman1231 ( talk)
Do NOT spoil the truth behind Reiko. I removed it, there are a lot of people who have not read the manga or light novels. The anime is ongoing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.6.0 ( talk) 04:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
About Misaki's eye color: あおい can be vague, but 蒼き瞳 is at most ends blue. If it where green, the author may have used other description. I know in the anime was green. But in the manga was blue. The cover of the OP single also depicts blue eyes. Personally I choose blue, since うつろなる fits more a blue than a green eye, but we can argue emerald, greenish, blue eyes always have tones of green. I don't think it's too relevant, so I opted to remove it.
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We know how difficult can be to determine gender in japanese. Language and pronouns are genderless, and most names are unisex. The first reference to Misaki Yomiyama' gender was on the second half of the novel.
pmt7ar ( talk) 17:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The novel says clearly that 1972's Misaki is a boy. I've already finished reading it and it didn't changed, so now I'm dead sure he is "he". Already posted the references and exact quotations. So, where do this "she is a girl" come from? pmt7ar ( talk) 17:14, 30 January 2012 (UTC) Here [5] is a pic of Yomiyama Misaki from the manga adaptation. Seems more a boy than a girl. That scene corresponds with chapter 15-4 of the novel (about pages 594-600), when Kouichi shows Misaki the graduation photo of that year (it's the photo mentioned in the introduction, where the death Misaki appears). pmt7ar ( talk) 17:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I found a site with a summary in a XLS file. It has a summary for each chapter and each subsection, with page numbers to easy cross-check. I think it would be of great help to summarize the Plot section, even those who haven't read the original work. It's in japanese, and obviously spoilers. http://longfish.cute.coocan.jp/pages/2010/100404_another/ . pmt7ar ( talk) 05:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Did someone abandon the summary section? 'Cause no one's done anything real helpful recently. - 017Bluefield ( talk) 22:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I completely rewrote the plot but didn't go very far in the story. Do we want it to be comprehensive or is the new one enough? I at least feel this version is better than the previous one in so far as it has closure, whereas the other one just stopped halfway through the story. I figured we could leave it until someone wrote something better. Juniper4589 ( talk) 13:44, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
The author of Another has just tweeted that he's working on a spin-off called "Another S" and is planning a sequel. Apparently, there's also an OVA planned about Mei and her cousin to be released in May. Here's the link to his tweet [6]. Which section should the information be added in? Juniper4589 ( talk) 19:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I know that according to Wikipedia:Spoiler we don't need to show spoiler warnings, but that same policy also mentions that spoilers are implied by certain section headings: "Plot" and "Ending". I don't think the "Characters" section falls into that category. Ideally, the Characters section wouldn't contain pieces of the plot at all. Would it be possible to re-write some of the character synopses to remove important plot points, possibly shifting them to the Plot section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.151.6 ( talk) 14:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
-As someone who has seen the full anime I have to say that this is still really really bad. There are some gigantic spoilers that, whether watching or reading, it can really ruin a lot of things for people if they read this article first. At the very minimum there really does need to be a spoiler warning regardless of if it's absolutely required or not.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.83.160.48 ( talk • contribs) 05:35, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I tweaked the names of the characters to reflect how they are introduced in the series, for example, Mei's mother is Kirika and is referred to as such in the manga (and anime credits) throughout the series; her real name and identity is revealed near the end. And Reiko is listed as Reiko without the Mikami part. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 21:21, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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During the airing of the show, there were recurrent IP editors changing the characters section. I reverted such several times, as in other reverts it was stated that the article is about the novel (well, it's on the title), not on adaptations. Since all were by IP, I reverted them without much thinking, as the anime called attention to the article anyway. But now Player017 incorpored them with "In the anime..." on a couple of characters. What should we do on that matter?
My opinion is that we kept the article on the novel, since almost all involving secondary characters is different in both adaptations, and sometimes contradictory among them. If adding the manga, we will have "Izumi did A. In the anime she did not do A but B. In the manga she did C." Which I don't find quite neat.
The anime events are detailed on the anime episodes list article, that's 100% anime. I propose removing the anime events from plot and characters section, and instead putting them on the anime episodes list article, OR, do a "Differences with Anime" and "Differences with Manga" subsections to that end. pmt7ar ( talk) 00:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
No comments? pmt7ar ( talk) 05:36, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
If no objections I'll revert it as it was originally. All the "in the anime..." notes on characters section are already noted on the anime episode list article; it won't be a content removal, just a discrimination of the work with an adaptation, whose differences stated together could result confusing. pmt7ar ( talk) 05:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Was this story not loosely based on true events? Or at least the back story? I didn't see if the article mentioned that. I know the main character's name was slightly changed from the real person's out of respect for the families.
Another takes place in 1998, Kobe Child Murders, March 1997. Mei and the main character make referrences to this real life event that had happened a year ago.
The rantings of the murderer seem to be a theme in the anime, at least where "non-existing-people" are concerned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakakibara_Seito — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.39.208.230 ( talk) 20:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
The section describes the characters as they are in the anime. However, it also describes their deaths as they occur in the novel. It's disorienting, to be honest. — 017Bluefield ( talk) 22:28, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Would this fit in the Category:Japanese children's novels (bearing in mind that there is no separate category for Japanese young adult novels)? It seems as if it might from the setting, but is it written for adults? Robina Fox ( talk) 18:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Should the side characters even be mentioned? Like the one who dies from a heart attack, and the list of random characters who died of various things in August. One is just noted as being a classmate of Akazawa's. At least from the manga side they don't even last long to warrant a chapter. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 08:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
While we're at it, why label characters as "he died (this way) so makes it the Death in April". The storyline does not restrict the curse to one death per month, especially given the bus accident and the other year that had the 17 deaths. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 09:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I've commented out the deaths in August characters. Unless the novel treats them as major characters, I've only seen them as incidentals in the manga, mentioned by name only in one or two scenes but no strong focus on them for a chapter. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 14:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Need some help with the footnote that relates the voice actor for Mikami. The anagram has been pointed out on several forums but need a more formalized reliable source to state it. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 09:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
The book references the Kobe child murders. Maybe should put that in somewhere? Predated0 ( talk) 21:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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would Another be at a Book store in the U.S perferably near New Jersey? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.108.124 ( talk) 07:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm reading the manga and the novel. So far have readed the 3 first manga tankôbon, and up to Interlude I of the novel (about 1/3). I just added some plot, but it could be certainly improved in copyedit and redaction (I have several things to add but can't find a way of expressing it in few paragraphs). So far first edit is about 3/4 of the story until Interlude I. What's left until there is Kôichi's visits to the puppet store, her talks with Mei and the first death. Will add more as I progress in the reading. pmt7ar ( talk) 22:52, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
About references, I have no problem on looking down source references for any challenged affirmation, so I'll try to complete any citation needed tag if it's something I have already read. Just noticed that the reference list could turn very extensive, so I decided just to point the pages and avoid quotation (plus, avoid if any copyright issues). I left now a unsolved tag, from an edit made by Player017 ( [1] [2]) made by the same Player017 ( [3]). Is he requesting a citation for his own statement? (If the edit was correct, I still haven't got to that point yet. For me Kôichi still wonders if there is any connection, not if she died because of that. Plus, her mother died 15 years ago, and it was 26 years ago when she was 15y.o. and in [class 3-3]. So 11 years passed after the original incident, she married and all before dying. Was the edit made with knowledge of the plot or it deviated from the edits?) pmt7ar ( talk) 17:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
People do not seem to understand what a plot is. It is not a list of spoilers. Use the following for the plot: The story begins that a junior high school transferee named Koichi Sakakibara meets a mysterious girl in a hospital. She, named Mei Misaki, wears an eyepatch and go to mortuary with a sentece "My half body wait for me". Koichi meets her again on the first day of school and says hello but she alert hime not to speak to her and says "Beware. It might be happened". Koichi puzzles against her inscrutable caution. And then he find that other classmated and teachers treat her as non-existent girl. They don't see her and avoid to speak about it. Is she a goast or something? What is happening in his class? At last Koichi hears from his aunt from the story of a prestigious girl in the same class from 26 years before that died in an accident. Refusing to accept it her classmates kept pretending she was still alive. In that year' graduation commemorative photograph, the girl supposedly not to be was there. Koichi intuits a connection between the 26 year-old incident and what is happening on Mei Misaki. At that time, Koichi's classmate terriblely died in school as well as the old incident. Mei Misaki pronounces gravely: "It's starting". 04:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)04:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)04:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC) Musicman1231 ( talk)
Do NOT spoil the truth behind Reiko. I removed it, there are a lot of people who have not read the manga or light novels. The anime is ongoing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.6.0 ( talk) 04:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
About Misaki's eye color: あおい can be vague, but 蒼き瞳 is at most ends blue. If it where green, the author may have used other description. I know in the anime was green. But in the manga was blue. The cover of the OP single also depicts blue eyes. Personally I choose blue, since うつろなる fits more a blue than a green eye, but we can argue emerald, greenish, blue eyes always have tones of green. I don't think it's too relevant, so I opted to remove it.
pmt7ar (
talk)
06:26, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
We know how difficult can be to determine gender in japanese. Language and pronouns are genderless, and most names are unisex. The first reference to Misaki Yomiyama' gender was on the second half of the novel.
pmt7ar ( talk) 17:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The novel says clearly that 1972's Misaki is a boy. I've already finished reading it and it didn't changed, so now I'm dead sure he is "he". Already posted the references and exact quotations. So, where do this "she is a girl" come from? pmt7ar ( talk) 17:14, 30 January 2012 (UTC) Here [5] is a pic of Yomiyama Misaki from the manga adaptation. Seems more a boy than a girl. That scene corresponds with chapter 15-4 of the novel (about pages 594-600), when Kouichi shows Misaki the graduation photo of that year (it's the photo mentioned in the introduction, where the death Misaki appears). pmt7ar ( talk) 17:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I found a site with a summary in a XLS file. It has a summary for each chapter and each subsection, with page numbers to easy cross-check. I think it would be of great help to summarize the Plot section, even those who haven't read the original work. It's in japanese, and obviously spoilers. http://longfish.cute.coocan.jp/pages/2010/100404_another/ . pmt7ar ( talk) 05:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Did someone abandon the summary section? 'Cause no one's done anything real helpful recently. - 017Bluefield ( talk) 22:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I completely rewrote the plot but didn't go very far in the story. Do we want it to be comprehensive or is the new one enough? I at least feel this version is better than the previous one in so far as it has closure, whereas the other one just stopped halfway through the story. I figured we could leave it until someone wrote something better. Juniper4589 ( talk) 13:44, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
The author of Another has just tweeted that he's working on a spin-off called "Another S" and is planning a sequel. Apparently, there's also an OVA planned about Mei and her cousin to be released in May. Here's the link to his tweet [6]. Which section should the information be added in? Juniper4589 ( talk) 19:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I know that according to Wikipedia:Spoiler we don't need to show spoiler warnings, but that same policy also mentions that spoilers are implied by certain section headings: "Plot" and "Ending". I don't think the "Characters" section falls into that category. Ideally, the Characters section wouldn't contain pieces of the plot at all. Would it be possible to re-write some of the character synopses to remove important plot points, possibly shifting them to the Plot section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.151.6 ( talk) 14:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
-As someone who has seen the full anime I have to say that this is still really really bad. There are some gigantic spoilers that, whether watching or reading, it can really ruin a lot of things for people if they read this article first. At the very minimum there really does need to be a spoiler warning regardless of if it's absolutely required or not.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.83.160.48 ( talk • contribs) 05:35, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I tweaked the names of the characters to reflect how they are introduced in the series, for example, Mei's mother is Kirika and is referred to as such in the manga (and anime credits) throughout the series; her real name and identity is revealed near the end. And Reiko is listed as Reiko without the Mikami part. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 21:21, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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During the airing of the show, there were recurrent IP editors changing the characters section. I reverted such several times, as in other reverts it was stated that the article is about the novel (well, it's on the title), not on adaptations. Since all were by IP, I reverted them without much thinking, as the anime called attention to the article anyway. But now Player017 incorpored them with "In the anime..." on a couple of characters. What should we do on that matter?
My opinion is that we kept the article on the novel, since almost all involving secondary characters is different in both adaptations, and sometimes contradictory among them. If adding the manga, we will have "Izumi did A. In the anime she did not do A but B. In the manga she did C." Which I don't find quite neat.
The anime events are detailed on the anime episodes list article, that's 100% anime. I propose removing the anime events from plot and characters section, and instead putting them on the anime episodes list article, OR, do a "Differences with Anime" and "Differences with Manga" subsections to that end. pmt7ar ( talk) 00:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
No comments? pmt7ar ( talk) 05:36, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
If no objections I'll revert it as it was originally. All the "in the anime..." notes on characters section are already noted on the anime episode list article; it won't be a content removal, just a discrimination of the work with an adaptation, whose differences stated together could result confusing. pmt7ar ( talk) 05:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Was this story not loosely based on true events? Or at least the back story? I didn't see if the article mentioned that. I know the main character's name was slightly changed from the real person's out of respect for the families.
Another takes place in 1998, Kobe Child Murders, March 1997. Mei and the main character make referrences to this real life event that had happened a year ago.
The rantings of the murderer seem to be a theme in the anime, at least where "non-existing-people" are concerned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakakibara_Seito — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.39.208.230 ( talk) 20:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
The section describes the characters as they are in the anime. However, it also describes their deaths as they occur in the novel. It's disorienting, to be honest. — 017Bluefield ( talk) 22:28, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Would this fit in the Category:Japanese children's novels (bearing in mind that there is no separate category for Japanese young adult novels)? It seems as if it might from the setting, but is it written for adults? Robina Fox ( talk) 18:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Should the side characters even be mentioned? Like the one who dies from a heart attack, and the list of random characters who died of various things in August. One is just noted as being a classmate of Akazawa's. At least from the manga side they don't even last long to warrant a chapter. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 08:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
While we're at it, why label characters as "he died (this way) so makes it the Death in April". The storyline does not restrict the curse to one death per month, especially given the bus accident and the other year that had the 17 deaths. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 09:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I've commented out the deaths in August characters. Unless the novel treats them as major characters, I've only seen them as incidentals in the manga, mentioned by name only in one or two scenes but no strong focus on them for a chapter. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 14:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Need some help with the footnote that relates the voice actor for Mikami. The anagram has been pointed out on several forums but need a more formalized reliable source to state it. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 09:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
The book references the Kobe child murders. Maybe should put that in somewhere? Predated0 ( talk) 21:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)