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Greekboy recently highlighted the need to clean up the 07/08 section, something that has been apparent for months. I do however suggest that we wait until the album(s) has/have been released, so we can purge all the rumours about who might participate etc, remove significant portions about who's said what about it etc., which can be condensed into one paragraph. Hence, while we DEFINITELY need to clean it up, my personal recommendation would be to wait. Queer As Folk ( talk) 03:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I improved the grammar, syntax and wording (to make it look more encyclopedic) in the '83-'90 section. Elp gr ( talk) 18:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
If you look at other musician's articles, even FA, they all show a sample of the artists studio and live albums. The discography page is meant to show details and other albums and works that do not fit in as the artist's most notable works and would otherwise make the page huge. Mariah Carey's article (FA), for ex., includes her compilation albums too, which I find overkill, however it's not really fair that Vissi's discography not be included b/c it is larger than most artists'. I just wrote so that we do not keep reverting our edits circularly. GreekStar12 ( talk) 17:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I realize that this was probs the ip user who put this info in, but there needs to be a source for the attendance numbers of the tour. I am thinking about actually creating this article. If Sony BMG had attendance info about Paparizou's tour last year, then they will most likely have something on Vissi. BTW, there were many tours this year other than Vissi, incl. Hatzigiannis, Vandi, Remos, Papakonstantinou, and Rouvas. It is unique that so many top artists tour at the same time, so a good way to actually view the success of her tour is to compare, if this info is available. Also, I think we should discuss what is a "success", and i doubt that 250,000 in 23 (or 26?) cities is actually record breaking. At the time of Vissi's first concert in Athens, her, Hatzigiannis and Rouvas' concerts were simultaneously advertised as they were only one day apart; I remember the comparissons being made by the media, since Vissi and Hatzigiannis had sold out concerts at Theatro Vrahon, which holds 6,000, while Rouvas' concert was sold out with 50,000 at Kallimarmaro, which was actually declared a record-breaker. Assuming that Vissi's concerts were all sold out, she is obviously playing much smaller venues, so it has to be evaluated if it was actually a success overall for her. Paparizou's tour last year 195K in 29 stops, was generally considered a success for her, although only one venue was sold out; I doubt that it would be considered a success for Vissi though. GreekStar12 ( talk) 16:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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I see that much information is false like this one: "Her album Kravgi still remains the best-selling album of the 2000s, and one of the top five best-selling of all time". The best selling album in Grecce the last twenty years, according to IFPI, is the album "Gia" of Despina Vandi. Also, the album of Anna Vissi "Kravgi" is the eighth best selling album but since 1985 until today not one of the best selling album of all time. Finally, Anna Vissi since 1995 received less than 30 platinum. Her platinum is not even 25. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.131.141.164 ( talk) 12:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Gia is, also, a double album which went 4 times platimum and sold 200,000 single copies or 400,000 double copies. Kravgi sold 350,000 double copies or 175,000 single copies. These are the information from IFPI not from me. Also Kravgi with the system of the single sales went 3,5 times platinum and Gia 4 times platinum so the sales of Kravgi are less than the sales of Gia.
I don't argue but according to the charts of IFPI Gia sold 200,000 (single) sales and went 4(single) times platinum or sold 400,000 double sales and went 8 double times platinum. Kravgi sold 175,000 (single) sales and 350,000 (double) sales and went 3,5 (single) times or went 7 (double) times platinum. These resources are from the IFPI's charts. They are official. You can't change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.131.143.144 ( talk) 17:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Of course I have sources about my information from the Chart Show which takes its sources from the charts of IFPI. I have a video and an aricle from a site which proove my information. Which one do you prefer? —Preceding
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The show take place on Alpha in 18/10//2009. The information is from the official site of Anna Vissi. Is this source countable?
And which are the rest of information? Can you repeat them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.170.49 ( talk) 19:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
You talk about the link?
This is not true. Before the beginning of the show Natalia Germanou says that the source taken by the IFPI. If it was wrong, IFPI would have sued the show but it didn't. Also, the Chart Show have two people of IFPI who study the discography of Greece since 1950. So the sources are reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.185.117 ( talk) 09:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
And your proof is? This show become a month ago and IFPI didn't sue them. So the sources are true. And Petros Dragoumanos belong to IFPI. If you visit the site of IFPI, you will see his name in the list of IFPI's members. So you can say that the Chart show sources are false. You can't proove it. It is your calculasion. You have no evidence to prove it. Instead I told you what said Germanou, which is true otherwise the IFPI would sue the show for libel. Μy source is undoubtedly from the official club of Anna Vissi. Ι would like the restoration of the truth αs there is nothing which proove that everything I said was false. —Preceding
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You are wrong but I'm not going to continue these nonsense. You have no proof about the things that you say and I have official sources. If you want to continue to say non-existent things I have no ploblem but this is a reason that everyone consider this biography false. Finally, I have a question for you: Where is the proof that the album Kravgi went 7 times platinum? I can't see no reference in a official source except from an article which write that Kravgi went 3 times platinum. So you mislead the people with false sources. You should be ashamed because with your false sources, you don't help the Wikipedia develope and become a reliable online encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.134.179 ( talk) 11:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
It say that Kravgi is 6 times platinum no 7 times. And it is very strange. Who you found an article which published nine years ago? Can I also do it and if I can could you tell me how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.134.179 ( talk) 13:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
It sounds reliable. I have no reason not to believe you. But you must know that Gia is more successful than Kravgi. But if you think that Kravgi is more successful I think that I can do nothing to change your mind. Personally, I prefer both of these albums and I have bought both of them. But I know that Gia is for successful and I would like to tell it to you. I told it. Now, you can do whatever you think.
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Totally unnecessary section. The fact that Anna was against the Annan Plan is true but details about the Plan (which are also subjectively formulated) are unnecessary. Engelleip96 ( talk) 20:15, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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Greekboy recently highlighted the need to clean up the 07/08 section, something that has been apparent for months. I do however suggest that we wait until the album(s) has/have been released, so we can purge all the rumours about who might participate etc, remove significant portions about who's said what about it etc., which can be condensed into one paragraph. Hence, while we DEFINITELY need to clean it up, my personal recommendation would be to wait. Queer As Folk ( talk) 03:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I improved the grammar, syntax and wording (to make it look more encyclopedic) in the '83-'90 section. Elp gr ( talk) 18:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
If you look at other musician's articles, even FA, they all show a sample of the artists studio and live albums. The discography page is meant to show details and other albums and works that do not fit in as the artist's most notable works and would otherwise make the page huge. Mariah Carey's article (FA), for ex., includes her compilation albums too, which I find overkill, however it's not really fair that Vissi's discography not be included b/c it is larger than most artists'. I just wrote so that we do not keep reverting our edits circularly. GreekStar12 ( talk) 17:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I realize that this was probs the ip user who put this info in, but there needs to be a source for the attendance numbers of the tour. I am thinking about actually creating this article. If Sony BMG had attendance info about Paparizou's tour last year, then they will most likely have something on Vissi. BTW, there were many tours this year other than Vissi, incl. Hatzigiannis, Vandi, Remos, Papakonstantinou, and Rouvas. It is unique that so many top artists tour at the same time, so a good way to actually view the success of her tour is to compare, if this info is available. Also, I think we should discuss what is a "success", and i doubt that 250,000 in 23 (or 26?) cities is actually record breaking. At the time of Vissi's first concert in Athens, her, Hatzigiannis and Rouvas' concerts were simultaneously advertised as they were only one day apart; I remember the comparissons being made by the media, since Vissi and Hatzigiannis had sold out concerts at Theatro Vrahon, which holds 6,000, while Rouvas' concert was sold out with 50,000 at Kallimarmaro, which was actually declared a record-breaker. Assuming that Vissi's concerts were all sold out, she is obviously playing much smaller venues, so it has to be evaluated if it was actually a success overall for her. Paparizou's tour last year 195K in 29 stops, was generally considered a success for her, although only one venue was sold out; I doubt that it would be considered a success for Vissi though. GreekStar12 ( talk) 16:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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I see that much information is false like this one: "Her album Kravgi still remains the best-selling album of the 2000s, and one of the top five best-selling of all time". The best selling album in Grecce the last twenty years, according to IFPI, is the album "Gia" of Despina Vandi. Also, the album of Anna Vissi "Kravgi" is the eighth best selling album but since 1985 until today not one of the best selling album of all time. Finally, Anna Vissi since 1995 received less than 30 platinum. Her platinum is not even 25. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.131.141.164 ( talk) 12:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Gia is, also, a double album which went 4 times platimum and sold 200,000 single copies or 400,000 double copies. Kravgi sold 350,000 double copies or 175,000 single copies. These are the information from IFPI not from me. Also Kravgi with the system of the single sales went 3,5 times platinum and Gia 4 times platinum so the sales of Kravgi are less than the sales of Gia.
I don't argue but according to the charts of IFPI Gia sold 200,000 (single) sales and went 4(single) times platinum or sold 400,000 double sales and went 8 double times platinum. Kravgi sold 175,000 (single) sales and 350,000 (double) sales and went 3,5 (single) times or went 7 (double) times platinum. These resources are from the IFPI's charts. They are official. You can't change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.131.143.144 ( talk) 17:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Of course I have sources about my information from the Chart Show which takes its sources from the charts of IFPI. I have a video and an aricle from a site which proove my information. Which one do you prefer? —Preceding
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The show take place on Alpha in 18/10//2009. The information is from the official site of Anna Vissi. Is this source countable?
And which are the rest of information? Can you repeat them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.170.49 ( talk) 19:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
You talk about the link?
This is not true. Before the beginning of the show Natalia Germanou says that the source taken by the IFPI. If it was wrong, IFPI would have sued the show but it didn't. Also, the Chart Show have two people of IFPI who study the discography of Greece since 1950. So the sources are reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.185.117 ( talk) 09:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
And your proof is? This show become a month ago and IFPI didn't sue them. So the sources are true. And Petros Dragoumanos belong to IFPI. If you visit the site of IFPI, you will see his name in the list of IFPI's members. So you can say that the Chart show sources are false. You can't proove it. It is your calculasion. You have no evidence to prove it. Instead I told you what said Germanou, which is true otherwise the IFPI would sue the show for libel. Μy source is undoubtedly from the official club of Anna Vissi. Ι would like the restoration of the truth αs there is nothing which proove that everything I said was false. —Preceding
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You are wrong but I'm not going to continue these nonsense. You have no proof about the things that you say and I have official sources. If you want to continue to say non-existent things I have no ploblem but this is a reason that everyone consider this biography false. Finally, I have a question for you: Where is the proof that the album Kravgi went 7 times platinum? I can't see no reference in a official source except from an article which write that Kravgi went 3 times platinum. So you mislead the people with false sources. You should be ashamed because with your false sources, you don't help the Wikipedia develope and become a reliable online encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.134.179 ( talk) 11:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
It say that Kravgi is 6 times platinum no 7 times. And it is very strange. Who you found an article which published nine years ago? Can I also do it and if I can could you tell me how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.134.179 ( talk) 13:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
It sounds reliable. I have no reason not to believe you. But you must know that Gia is more successful than Kravgi. But if you think that Kravgi is more successful I think that I can do nothing to change your mind. Personally, I prefer both of these albums and I have bought both of them. But I know that Gia is for successful and I would like to tell it to you. I told it. Now, you can do whatever you think.
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Totally unnecessary section. The fact that Anna was against the Annan Plan is true but details about the Plan (which are also subjectively formulated) are unnecessary. Engelleip96 ( talk) 20:15, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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