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"The style was popularized, if not invented, by Neil Cicierega (aka Trapezoid) at the age of 13, an 18-year-old student from Kingston, Massachusetts."
Okay, call me stupid, but isn't the above sentence a bit ambiguous? What is "the age of 13": the 18-year-old student (in which case it's an error), or the style (which considering that Macromedia Flash hasn't really had an influence extending that far back in time, I would assume an error as well). So I know it's screwed-up, but how? I'm assuming that the "18-year-old student" part is extraneous, and that author was going for:
"The style was popularized, if not invented, by Neil Cicierega (A.K.A. Trapezoid), a 13-year-old student from Kingston, Massachusetts."
Did I get the jist of the problem? Eliminating the update on Neil midway through the sentence may have cleared the problem up. ( Crtrue)
Are we allowed to just reproduce other people's text verbatim? It's not even paraphrased, but it's made to look like it is. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is under the GNU FDL, so text incorporated has to be under the same or a compatible license, or public domain. Did anyone get permission from ABS to use that?
So yeah, at present I feel this article has lots of POVness. Also, questionable assurances such as "Animutation should become mainstream in a few years" probably don't belong here. For cleanup, I'm not sure where to begin, but I'll do my best to rally interested folk from the ABS forums. Jesset77 09:21, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Does anybody know what the protocol is for wikipedias for specifics things- like the fanimutation wiki, is it right being under internal link?
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— JIP | Talk 07:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
The first time I saw this kind of animation was on a show on Fuse TV called " Behind the Music that Sucks" (hereinafter, "BTMTS"). Having stumbled across this article, I looked for a reference to that show and couldn't find it. I've now located a web site "Heavy.com" that features BTMTS as well as another "channel" called "Kung Faux" which was also shown on Fuse. Any info on connections between these various phenomena? -- Davecampbell 18:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Other than the whole Monty Python-style animation dealie, no. There are lots of things which use the animated cut-outs, but actually have some coherency to them. 71.231.56.40 21:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
This is. gohlkus 17:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, how relevant.
I just wiped out a big chunk of this article. Unverifiable, non-notable info doesn't really have a place here. Just as YTMND has the YTMND wiki, so is there an Animutation wiki, and that is the place for the majority of this information, not here. Please discuss here. -- Dwiki 06:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Also needs dead link cleanup, most links not working — Preceding
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Who are the intended viewers? 199.126.28.20 07:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
My guess would be that whoever wrote that was thinking of Americans. That should probably be removed or rewritten. -- Burger ca t 11:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Didn't Terry Gilliam influence this, with cutting off the chin to make people talk and whatnot? Curvebill 00:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
The most commonly used character in animutation is Colin Mochrie
Where does that come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.63.190 ( talk) 07:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- A commonly used character in animutation is Colin Mochrie
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 17:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This article is about a subject which gets about only 14,000 Google hits, and very little coverage. It's sort of a cross between WP:NEO and WP:OR. I suggest we merge this into Neil Cicierega, which seems to be the primary person responsible for these and redirect, instead of putting it up for afd again. -- Sloane ( talk) 18:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
The History section reflects a little bit of opinion, which is subjective. Wikipedia pages are supposed to be unbiased and objective. It says, "Animutation was "invented" by Neil Cicierega. Cicierega claims..." Anyone can see that this may reflect a bit of a negative opinion. And even if that was not the writer's intent, it still makes the facts unclear. I suggest someone rewrite this part, and perhaps attempt a fact check. Lilyka ( talk) 13:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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"The style was popularized, if not invented, by Neil Cicierega (aka Trapezoid) at the age of 13, an 18-year-old student from Kingston, Massachusetts."
Okay, call me stupid, but isn't the above sentence a bit ambiguous? What is "the age of 13": the 18-year-old student (in which case it's an error), or the style (which considering that Macromedia Flash hasn't really had an influence extending that far back in time, I would assume an error as well). So I know it's screwed-up, but how? I'm assuming that the "18-year-old student" part is extraneous, and that author was going for:
"The style was popularized, if not invented, by Neil Cicierega (A.K.A. Trapezoid), a 13-year-old student from Kingston, Massachusetts."
Did I get the jist of the problem? Eliminating the update on Neil midway through the sentence may have cleared the problem up. ( Crtrue)
Are we allowed to just reproduce other people's text verbatim? It's not even paraphrased, but it's made to look like it is. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is under the GNU FDL, so text incorporated has to be under the same or a compatible license, or public domain. Did anyone get permission from ABS to use that?
So yeah, at present I feel this article has lots of POVness. Also, questionable assurances such as "Animutation should become mainstream in a few years" probably don't belong here. For cleanup, I'm not sure where to begin, but I'll do my best to rally interested folk from the ABS forums. Jesset77 09:21, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Does anybody know what the protocol is for wikipedias for specifics things- like the fanimutation wiki, is it right being under internal link?
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on November 9, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep. |
— JIP | Talk 07:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
The first time I saw this kind of animation was on a show on Fuse TV called " Behind the Music that Sucks" (hereinafter, "BTMTS"). Having stumbled across this article, I looked for a reference to that show and couldn't find it. I've now located a web site "Heavy.com" that features BTMTS as well as another "channel" called "Kung Faux" which was also shown on Fuse. Any info on connections between these various phenomena? -- Davecampbell 18:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Other than the whole Monty Python-style animation dealie, no. There are lots of things which use the animated cut-outs, but actually have some coherency to them. 71.231.56.40 21:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
This is. gohlkus 17:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, how relevant.
I just wiped out a big chunk of this article. Unverifiable, non-notable info doesn't really have a place here. Just as YTMND has the YTMND wiki, so is there an Animutation wiki, and that is the place for the majority of this information, not here. Please discuss here. -- Dwiki 06:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Also needs dead link cleanup, most links not working — Preceding
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contribs)
08:45, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Who are the intended viewers? 199.126.28.20 07:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
My guess would be that whoever wrote that was thinking of Americans. That should probably be removed or rewritten. -- Burger ca t 11:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Didn't Terry Gilliam influence this, with cutting off the chin to make people talk and whatnot? Curvebill 00:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
The most commonly used character in animutation is Colin Mochrie
Where does that come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.63.190 ( talk) 07:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- A commonly used character in animutation is Colin Mochrie
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 17:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This article is about a subject which gets about only 14,000 Google hits, and very little coverage. It's sort of a cross between WP:NEO and WP:OR. I suggest we merge this into Neil Cicierega, which seems to be the primary person responsible for these and redirect, instead of putting it up for afd again. -- Sloane ( talk) 18:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
The History section reflects a little bit of opinion, which is subjective. Wikipedia pages are supposed to be unbiased and objective. It says, "Animutation was "invented" by Neil Cicierega. Cicierega claims..." Anyone can see that this may reflect a bit of a negative opinion. And even if that was not the writer's intent, it still makes the facts unclear. I suggest someone rewrite this part, and perhaps attempt a fact check. Lilyka ( talk) 13:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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