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I just reviewed the previous sections on this Talk page and I must say, I have never seen a Talk page with so many unsigned sections. This is not your sandbox. If you are going to leave a comment on this Talk page or any Talk page you must sign your comments. You do so by adding four tildes. If you don't know how to do that, just click on the section below where it says "Sign your posts on talk pages" and then it has four tildes. Clicking on that will add your signature for you! Now that you have been advised on how to do it, I am sure you will sign your comments from now on. You can do it! God bless and happy editing! MarydaleEd ( talk) 02:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 00:36, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Christian angelology → Angels in Christianity – The articles Angels in Judaism and Angels in Islam have clearly established a pattern for pages like this, and it only makes sense that this article should conform with the existing status quo. Furthermore, "Angelology" is either theological jargon *or* too fantastical for encyclopedic tone. This article originally was titled "Christian angelic hierarchy" and was solely about Pseudo-Dionysian Angelology (popular in Medieval European Catholicism) and it does need restructuring in other ways, (for this I agree with user Yeshua/StagerJ, see his opinion in the Talk page,) but if nothing else the name should be clarified and made to match the established pattern of article names. I can't imagine this move would be too controversial, but considering that it's already been the subject of move discussions, I thought I'd request comment if there is any. Garnet Moss ( talk) 23:56, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
This page used to have a ton of cited information on the history of occult texts and various theological works that built up this topic, and now it's like a hatchet was taken to it, making it look like classifications like "Dominions" have as much basis in the history of Christian culture as any given obscure Marvel character. There's no discussion of which choirs are mentioned in which works. Also, there's no acknowledgement that obviously most of this approach to classifying angels was inspired by how the Jewish faith handled it.
The heck? This article was made actively worse. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 August 2023 and 8 December 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
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article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Mythologicalcreature8817 ( talk) 04:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
What is the reason for it? I don't get it.
Beyaz Deriili (
talk) 01:53, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
This seems to have fallen off the talk page, and an earlier attempt to revise was controversial, but I really think this page needs to be reworked. There's just no way that the article needs nine main headings for the Pseudo-Dionysian hierarchy, a non-canonical schema not even remotely close to the heart of Nicene Christianity. Originally this page was all about the P-D hierarchy, which explains how it became so prevalent, but now that it's been renamed to the much broader "Angels in Christianity" this needs to be revisited.
Here is my proposed heading structure, hopefully a fair compromise with those who want to prioritize the hierarchy:
Would be open to edits, but I really want to see these ranks tucked into subheadings. Garnet Moss ( talk) 02:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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I just reviewed the previous sections on this Talk page and I must say, I have never seen a Talk page with so many unsigned sections. This is not your sandbox. If you are going to leave a comment on this Talk page or any Talk page you must sign your comments. You do so by adding four tildes. If you don't know how to do that, just click on the section below where it says "Sign your posts on talk pages" and then it has four tildes. Clicking on that will add your signature for you! Now that you have been advised on how to do it, I am sure you will sign your comments from now on. You can do it! God bless and happy editing! MarydaleEd ( talk) 02:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 00:36, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Christian angelology → Angels in Christianity – The articles Angels in Judaism and Angels in Islam have clearly established a pattern for pages like this, and it only makes sense that this article should conform with the existing status quo. Furthermore, "Angelology" is either theological jargon *or* too fantastical for encyclopedic tone. This article originally was titled "Christian angelic hierarchy" and was solely about Pseudo-Dionysian Angelology (popular in Medieval European Catholicism) and it does need restructuring in other ways, (for this I agree with user Yeshua/StagerJ, see his opinion in the Talk page,) but if nothing else the name should be clarified and made to match the established pattern of article names. I can't imagine this move would be too controversial, but considering that it's already been the subject of move discussions, I thought I'd request comment if there is any. Garnet Moss ( talk) 23:56, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
This page used to have a ton of cited information on the history of occult texts and various theological works that built up this topic, and now it's like a hatchet was taken to it, making it look like classifications like "Dominions" have as much basis in the history of Christian culture as any given obscure Marvel character. There's no discussion of which choirs are mentioned in which works. Also, there's no acknowledgement that obviously most of this approach to classifying angels was inspired by how the Jewish faith handled it.
The heck? This article was made actively worse. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 August 2023 and 8 December 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Mythologicalcreature8817 (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Mythologicalcreature8817 ( talk) 04:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
What is the reason for it? I don't get it.
Beyaz Deriili (
talk) 01:53, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
This seems to have fallen off the talk page, and an earlier attempt to revise was controversial, but I really think this page needs to be reworked. There's just no way that the article needs nine main headings for the Pseudo-Dionysian hierarchy, a non-canonical schema not even remotely close to the heart of Nicene Christianity. Originally this page was all about the P-D hierarchy, which explains how it became so prevalent, but now that it's been renamed to the much broader "Angels in Christianity" this needs to be revisited.
Here is my proposed heading structure, hopefully a fair compromise with those who want to prioritize the hierarchy:
Would be open to edits, but I really want to see these ranks tucked into subheadings. Garnet Moss ( talk) 02:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)