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CERN has an article on the topic of fact an fiction in Angels and Demons here. Also, from feedback in NewScientist: "According to David McGinnis of Fermilab, the electricity bill for producing 250 mg [of antimatter] would be somewhere around a thousand trillion US dollars" (20 Nov, 2004). 203.217.38.83 10:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
CERN released a site covering the science behind the story (primarily antimatter and the 'God particle') to coincide with the movie release here: http://angelsanddemons.cern.ch/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenoyes ( talk • contribs) 13:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
An unregistered user was deleting large parts of the article. I've restored large parts of it and have protected the article. -- fdewaele, 11 December 2006, 18:13
I've tried a different approach to this section in the hope of adding some relevant criticism in whilst avoiding the dreaded fact list. The article does need to cover the inaccuracies of the book to be properly encyclopaedic and NPOV (it must be surely POV to sweep criticisms under the carpet) so I was hoping that the more general written discussion might overcome the encyclopaedic list problem.
Spenny 11:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
In the story, the murdered pope explained his allegence to science through his ability to conceive a child whilst continuing to abstain from intercourse. However, the Roman catholic church is opposed to IVF (see "Religious Objections").
Spenny 14:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
References
Further, despite the book's asseratation that major media outlets, such as MSNBC and CNN simply shoot their reporters in front of green screens rather than send them out to do live reports, there is no evidence of this occuring in the real world. Generally when someone is being shot in front of a green-screen on TV the effect is fairly obvious (refer to the "live location reports" done often on The Daily Show).
I removed the above text, not because it is wrong, but because if we had a list of errors in the book it would take up more space than the book itself. There are more important errors than this, and it would be unencyclopedic to list them all. (See above) We are supposed to maintain a neutral point of view and it has been suggested that it is unreasonable to give undue weight to the errors in the book, even if error spotting is the book's only useful entertainment!
The linked Wikibook - see main page - has a useful repository of the errors in the book. There is also a blog with these errors you may wish to circulate these on as linked also on the main page. Spenny 13:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I realise that no timelines are given in the book, but assume it's set in the present day. Given that, isn't there a discrepancy in the birth date of the character conceived by IVF? The first 'test tube baby' was Louise Brown born in 1978 - the character in the book must have been born in the early 60s. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? -- Whoosher 14:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
This article is very biased and shows quite an opinion. It needs to be updated/rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.239.120.194 ( talk) 16:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree! I thought that Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia which provides information. But this article is no better than an amateur blog written by someone who dislikes, or is jealous of the author. I find the article quite annoying, and, although I really support Wikipedia, is ruining the reputation of Wikipedia at a time when it is still trying to establish itself as reliable and scholarly source of information. Would someone please completely rewrite this article and indeed most of the articles about Dan Brown. The article has many mistakes: the obsession with exposing Dan Brown's mistakes is overdone and not always correct: when I reread the book, I am unable to find them - or have they been corrected by Brown since the article was written? Maybe this author should now tackle a few other authors: perhaps check out Shakespeare for his portrayal of Venice, Greece, Rome or elsewhere! Ebrownless ( talk) 12:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
As it says in the article: Also, this book mentions one Cardinal Ebner from Frankfurt. In truth, there is no cardinal from Frankfurt as there is no Archbishop of Frankfurt. There are only 4 cardinals from Germany: from Mainz, Cologne, Munich, and Berlin.
This is so far correct as there is no Archbishop of Frankfurt but a Cardinal needs not be an archbishop or even a bishop in the roman catholic church. In truth the pope can create a cardinal out of every roman catholic christian. So there could be a Cardinal from Frankfurt as this man does not need to be a bishop.
Pretty sure that names of characters fall under the category of fiction. Robert Langdon doesnt exist either. thats not considered a factual inaccuracy, thats called a fictional character. -- Late Leo ( talk) 19:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
NEW INACCURACY FOUND: in the book, it is stated that the Pope must speak Italian, Spanish and English in order to be able to be elected, which is completely inaccurate. It's true that the Pope is obliged to speak Italian, Spanish and, obviously Latin, but under no circumstances must the Pope have any command of English as a sine qua non requirement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgljuarez ( talk • contribs) 15:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
84.44.129.115 ( talk) 20:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Shaitan / Satan - More than a language error
Rather in the beginning Langdon narrates the story of the Illuminati and states that "The Vatican denounced the brotherhood as Shaitan" and continues a little later: "Shaitan is the root of an English word ... Satan." I don't know wherefrom Brown got this information. Satan is a true Hebrew word (heb. שָׂטָן), which can be found in the Bible: e.g. Hiob 1,9 and following verses, Psalm 109,6 and Sacharya 3,2. From these Hebrew text passages the word was absorbed 1:1 in many European languages, also in English. The reference to the Arabic Shaitan is absolutely dispensable. The two Semitic languages share the same roots, but that is all. Any pope would refer to the devil as Satan, never as Shaitan. Also the brotherhood of the Illuminati would never be linked to the muslim order of the Assassins (Hassassins) of the period of the crusades (11.-13. century). It seems that Brown choose a muslim Arab to impersonate the dark lusty cruel killer to serve the readers' sensationalism as it was previously often done with the Nazis as the bad guys. By the way: the killer can't even correctly count the Arabic numbers. The 2 would be ithnain. (I had added this text anonymously some minutes ago, unfortunately as new topic. It belongs to this subject) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regina Berlinghof ( talk • contribs) 15:27, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering: - where the he## the wireless cam was getting it's juice from when set up on the tomb of peter - if it wasn't battery powered (which seemingly is the case), why they couldn't shut off ever smaller sections of the vatican by just throwing the electricity-switches (cut the power by tripping the fuses blockwise, eventually the signal of the wireless cam should have died) - if it was wireless, why they didn't access the other cams (other wireless devices) to turn them off and this way home in on either it's wireless signal or it's electromagnetic signature ... - how a wireless cam was able to broadcast through several meters of granite ... well, I can go on, but basically I was wondering if someone else was irked by this too
77.251.36.79 ( talk) 13:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)rabhin
I tagged the statement that the film adaptation will film exterior shots in Vatican City as needing a citation. Given the Church's general opinion of Mr. Brown's work, I find it hard to believe that someone at the Governorate gave Ron Howard permission to film in the state. None of the sources in the paragraph mention filming in Vatican City itself. Gentgeen ( talk) 09:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ron Howard has stated that they filmed parts of Angels and Demons at the same time they were filming The DaVinci Code because he anticipated problems in getting Vatican approval for a second film. 152.133.14.5 ( talk) 21:21, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
I know this is kind of wierd because I have never read this book, but does the author really claim the illuminati is ancient? Because if not, I will remove this from the intro. Ancient has a connotation that applies to history way before the illuminati was created. But if that is just part of the book, I will leave it in. Thanks -- DerRichter ( talk) 23:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
i wikilinked 'janus' due to it's appropriate literary meaning. janus was a god with two faces. IsraelXKV8R ( talk) 03:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Have this book got any criticism?-- Amore Mio ( talk) 15:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Is there a particular good reason why the first external link "Angels & Demons Novel" which leads to a domain squatter site called angelsanddemonsbook.com is in this Wikipedia entry ?
The external link has nothing to do with the actual book, contains the text from the plotsummary on this wikipedia entry, plus a solicitation for sale of the domain, and a list of other domains for sale, which also seems to be of the domainsquatting variety.
Maybe an editor should remove that link ?
This may be true for the flat-earthers in America, but as this is specifically about Catholicism I think it's worth pointing out that the Catholic Church has been at pains to distance itself from Intelligent Design. Moreover the illuminati page has no information about a conflict. Dyaimz ( talk) 22:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Has the film been taking particularly creative or aggressive approaches to prevent online streaming? It doesn't seem to exist on surfthechannel today, nor many of the feeder sites like megavideo.
--KelvinHO Wiknerd( talk) 15:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Under the inaccuracies heading there's a short paragraph:
Which cited the website | CERN - Spotlight: Angels and Demons. While the website states both that the Web is their invention, and that the Internet is not, I question the accuracy of which it is a mistake present in the book. Within the book it only states that CERN invented the Web, which is true.
Shall I edit it so that it states: "A misleading statement in the book..."?
--KelvinHO Wiknerd( talk) 15:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I would like to point out that Illuminati is plural (it means the Enlightened Ones; the singular is Illuminatus) so "Illuminati is" is a grammatical error. It happens several times in the article.
Concerning chronology: the stuff that Brown attributes to CERN (antimatter and that special plane) have not been invented yet, so one might imagine the story taking place several years in the future, solving the problem of the camerlengo's age. Of course this in turn creates problems with DA VINCI CODE, where the recent passage of the millenium was a plot element.
I would also like to say that if people use Brown's novels as a source of information (rather than entertainment), then I feel sorry for them. CharlesTheBold ( talk) 19:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
CharlesTheBold ( talk) 22:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I believe there is a mistake in the plot summary, third paragraph, second sentence ...at which point the antimatter will fall, come into contact with the base of the canister... Shouldn't it be at which point the magnetic field will fail, letting the antimatter come in contact with the base of the canister...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielsj ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a mistake in the final sentence of the plot synopsis. Please delete the final sentence —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.97.205 ( talk) 03:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Any thought of adding "Pope Luke" to Cardinal Baggia? He does take on that name in the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.126.117 ( talk) 13:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
"With time on the canister running out, the Swiss Guard begins to evacuate the Basilica. As he is exiting the church, the camerlengo apparently goes into a trance and rushes back into the Basilica, claiming that he has received a vision from God revealing the location of the antimatter canister. With Langdon and a few others in pursuit, the camerlengo ventures deep into the catacombs beneath the Basilica and finds the canister sitting atop the tomb of Saint Peter. Langdon and the camerlengo retrieve the antimatter and get in a helicopter with only five minutes to spare. The camerlengo manages to parachute safely onto the roof of St. Peter's just as the canister explodes harmlessly in the sky. Langdon's fate is not immediately known, as there was not a second parachute on board the helicopter. The crowd in St. Peter's Square look in awe as the camerlengo stands triumphantly before them. Because of this "miracle", the papal conclave debate whether exception to Catholic law should be made to elect the camerlengo as the new Pope. Langdon managed to survive the explosion by using a window cover from the chopper as a parachute, and landed in the Tiber River near Tiber Island, which is famous for its reputation as an island blessed with miracles of healing. He is hurt, but not seriously." This is not true: Professor Langdon stays on the ground, and sees the camerlengo taking off in the helicopter (in the movie, you see that from the point of view of the camerlengo). What does happen, is that when the bomb (antimatter) explodes, a shockwave passes through the Vatican, and Langdon is hurt by that shockwave. I won't edit the article as English is not my native tongue, but I ask someone who speaks English a lot better than me, to edit the article accordingly. Thanks. 85.147.175.69 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC).
Perhaps someone with editing permissions can add another example to the inaccuracies section of the article. The brand name Alfa Romeo, a famous Italian automaker, was repeatedly misspelled throughout the first edition of Angels & Demons.
The mistakes, like many others, were corrected in subsequent printings. This article details and shows examples of the mistakes: http://jalfredproofreader.blogspot.com/2009/09/orgy-of-misspellings-in-blockbuster-dan.html Thank you. Andrew, 12.09.09 66.171.178.162 ( talk) 22:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if it is possible to enter my blog page as a new external link, ( http://faissabdul.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/angels-demons-tour/)
It is something which gives a outline of the path of illumination, and I believe people might find useful.
Faissabdul ( talk) 00:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello. A complete list of links to all foreign language wiki articles seems a bit over the top. I think a sentence saying the number of foreign language editions released would be sufficient. I can not find any featured article books with a list such as this. The note at the top of the list, referring to wikipedia, also seems odd, in that it seems unusual to talk about the project within an article. Beach drifter ( talk) 16:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
I never said you were canvassing. If you read that policy page, you'll see it has nothing to do with starting three identical discussions on three different pages. I was simply offering you a better avenue to pursue issues like this, and cautioning you to keep that particular policy in mind, in case you decided to pursue it.
An article on Dan Brown in translation would be a great idea! We could then summarize the lists I created more succinctly, and direct readers to that main Translation article via a "See this article..." note. Go for it. Let me know if you need any assistance with it. :-)
And please do not break up my posts with your responses. Thanks. :-) Nightscream ( talk) 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
ok, so theres a reference on the page about the "angels and demons decoded" tv show, and it talks about the guy from CERN claiming that 10 billionths of a gram of antimatter has the explosive power roughly equivalent to that of a frecracker, which is supposed to show that they would have needed way more than what they had in the book. however, it says in the book, and i quote, "a ten milligram sample--the volume of a grain of sand--is hypothesized to hold as much energy as about two hundred metric tons of conventional rocket fuel." 10 milligrams is 1,000,000 times that of what the guy on the show was talking about. also, the sample used by the assassin to try to destroy the vatican was .25 g, which is 25,000,000x. i dont know about anyone else, but that seems like alot of firecrackers. -- Late Leo ( talk) 19:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
10 ng of antimatter would be equivalent to 430 micro-tons of TNT, 10 mg would be 430 tons of TNT, and 250 mg, as in the film, would be equivalent to about 5.4 kT. Since a firecracker is about 500 J (or 120 nT of TNT) this should yield 3,600 firecrackers, 3.6 billion firecrackers, and 45 billion firecrackers, respectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.184.50 ( talk) 16:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if you Fiction novel lovers know this but you should all realize that it is far more efficient to use your antimatter in a different manner than is presented in the book-from what I have read about the book the antimatter is in the form of Positrons- Well this does not rule out Antimatters (mainly antiprotons) potential use in small amounts to function as a seed in a nuclear fission weapon of sub critical mass Antimatter catalyzed nuclear pulse propulsion Boundarylayer ( talk) 19:04, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Is there actually any need for this section?? Lots of books invent alternative histories and events, Clive Cussler's Dirk Pitt series (excluding the first 3 of the series) for example, and yet none of them have inaccuracies sections. I think most people would be aware that the book is a fictional story. douts ( talk) 23:26, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
What phrase use Langdon to tell how symbols change their meanings?
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CERN has an article on the topic of fact an fiction in Angels and Demons here. Also, from feedback in NewScientist: "According to David McGinnis of Fermilab, the electricity bill for producing 250 mg [of antimatter] would be somewhere around a thousand trillion US dollars" (20 Nov, 2004). 203.217.38.83 10:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
CERN released a site covering the science behind the story (primarily antimatter and the 'God particle') to coincide with the movie release here: http://angelsanddemons.cern.ch/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenoyes ( talk • contribs) 13:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
An unregistered user was deleting large parts of the article. I've restored large parts of it and have protected the article. -- fdewaele, 11 December 2006, 18:13
I've tried a different approach to this section in the hope of adding some relevant criticism in whilst avoiding the dreaded fact list. The article does need to cover the inaccuracies of the book to be properly encyclopaedic and NPOV (it must be surely POV to sweep criticisms under the carpet) so I was hoping that the more general written discussion might overcome the encyclopaedic list problem.
Spenny 11:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
In the story, the murdered pope explained his allegence to science through his ability to conceive a child whilst continuing to abstain from intercourse. However, the Roman catholic church is opposed to IVF (see "Religious Objections").
Spenny 14:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
References
Further, despite the book's asseratation that major media outlets, such as MSNBC and CNN simply shoot their reporters in front of green screens rather than send them out to do live reports, there is no evidence of this occuring in the real world. Generally when someone is being shot in front of a green-screen on TV the effect is fairly obvious (refer to the "live location reports" done often on The Daily Show).
I removed the above text, not because it is wrong, but because if we had a list of errors in the book it would take up more space than the book itself. There are more important errors than this, and it would be unencyclopedic to list them all. (See above) We are supposed to maintain a neutral point of view and it has been suggested that it is unreasonable to give undue weight to the errors in the book, even if error spotting is the book's only useful entertainment!
The linked Wikibook - see main page - has a useful repository of the errors in the book. There is also a blog with these errors you may wish to circulate these on as linked also on the main page. Spenny 13:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I realise that no timelines are given in the book, but assume it's set in the present day. Given that, isn't there a discrepancy in the birth date of the character conceived by IVF? The first 'test tube baby' was Louise Brown born in 1978 - the character in the book must have been born in the early 60s. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? -- Whoosher 14:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
This article is very biased and shows quite an opinion. It needs to be updated/rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.239.120.194 ( talk) 16:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree! I thought that Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia which provides information. But this article is no better than an amateur blog written by someone who dislikes, or is jealous of the author. I find the article quite annoying, and, although I really support Wikipedia, is ruining the reputation of Wikipedia at a time when it is still trying to establish itself as reliable and scholarly source of information. Would someone please completely rewrite this article and indeed most of the articles about Dan Brown. The article has many mistakes: the obsession with exposing Dan Brown's mistakes is overdone and not always correct: when I reread the book, I am unable to find them - or have they been corrected by Brown since the article was written? Maybe this author should now tackle a few other authors: perhaps check out Shakespeare for his portrayal of Venice, Greece, Rome or elsewhere! Ebrownless ( talk) 12:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
As it says in the article: Also, this book mentions one Cardinal Ebner from Frankfurt. In truth, there is no cardinal from Frankfurt as there is no Archbishop of Frankfurt. There are only 4 cardinals from Germany: from Mainz, Cologne, Munich, and Berlin.
This is so far correct as there is no Archbishop of Frankfurt but a Cardinal needs not be an archbishop or even a bishop in the roman catholic church. In truth the pope can create a cardinal out of every roman catholic christian. So there could be a Cardinal from Frankfurt as this man does not need to be a bishop.
Pretty sure that names of characters fall under the category of fiction. Robert Langdon doesnt exist either. thats not considered a factual inaccuracy, thats called a fictional character. -- Late Leo ( talk) 19:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
NEW INACCURACY FOUND: in the book, it is stated that the Pope must speak Italian, Spanish and English in order to be able to be elected, which is completely inaccurate. It's true that the Pope is obliged to speak Italian, Spanish and, obviously Latin, but under no circumstances must the Pope have any command of English as a sine qua non requirement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgljuarez ( talk • contribs) 15:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
84.44.129.115 ( talk) 20:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Shaitan / Satan - More than a language error
Rather in the beginning Langdon narrates the story of the Illuminati and states that "The Vatican denounced the brotherhood as Shaitan" and continues a little later: "Shaitan is the root of an English word ... Satan." I don't know wherefrom Brown got this information. Satan is a true Hebrew word (heb. שָׂטָן), which can be found in the Bible: e.g. Hiob 1,9 and following verses, Psalm 109,6 and Sacharya 3,2. From these Hebrew text passages the word was absorbed 1:1 in many European languages, also in English. The reference to the Arabic Shaitan is absolutely dispensable. The two Semitic languages share the same roots, but that is all. Any pope would refer to the devil as Satan, never as Shaitan. Also the brotherhood of the Illuminati would never be linked to the muslim order of the Assassins (Hassassins) of the period of the crusades (11.-13. century). It seems that Brown choose a muslim Arab to impersonate the dark lusty cruel killer to serve the readers' sensationalism as it was previously often done with the Nazis as the bad guys. By the way: the killer can't even correctly count the Arabic numbers. The 2 would be ithnain. (I had added this text anonymously some minutes ago, unfortunately as new topic. It belongs to this subject) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regina Berlinghof ( talk • contribs) 15:27, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering: - where the he## the wireless cam was getting it's juice from when set up on the tomb of peter - if it wasn't battery powered (which seemingly is the case), why they couldn't shut off ever smaller sections of the vatican by just throwing the electricity-switches (cut the power by tripping the fuses blockwise, eventually the signal of the wireless cam should have died) - if it was wireless, why they didn't access the other cams (other wireless devices) to turn them off and this way home in on either it's wireless signal or it's electromagnetic signature ... - how a wireless cam was able to broadcast through several meters of granite ... well, I can go on, but basically I was wondering if someone else was irked by this too
77.251.36.79 ( talk) 13:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)rabhin
I tagged the statement that the film adaptation will film exterior shots in Vatican City as needing a citation. Given the Church's general opinion of Mr. Brown's work, I find it hard to believe that someone at the Governorate gave Ron Howard permission to film in the state. None of the sources in the paragraph mention filming in Vatican City itself. Gentgeen ( talk) 09:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ron Howard has stated that they filmed parts of Angels and Demons at the same time they were filming The DaVinci Code because he anticipated problems in getting Vatican approval for a second film. 152.133.14.5 ( talk) 21:21, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
I know this is kind of wierd because I have never read this book, but does the author really claim the illuminati is ancient? Because if not, I will remove this from the intro. Ancient has a connotation that applies to history way before the illuminati was created. But if that is just part of the book, I will leave it in. Thanks -- DerRichter ( talk) 23:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
i wikilinked 'janus' due to it's appropriate literary meaning. janus was a god with two faces. IsraelXKV8R ( talk) 03:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Have this book got any criticism?-- Amore Mio ( talk) 15:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Is there a particular good reason why the first external link "Angels & Demons Novel" which leads to a domain squatter site called angelsanddemonsbook.com is in this Wikipedia entry ?
The external link has nothing to do with the actual book, contains the text from the plotsummary on this wikipedia entry, plus a solicitation for sale of the domain, and a list of other domains for sale, which also seems to be of the domainsquatting variety.
Maybe an editor should remove that link ?
This may be true for the flat-earthers in America, but as this is specifically about Catholicism I think it's worth pointing out that the Catholic Church has been at pains to distance itself from Intelligent Design. Moreover the illuminati page has no information about a conflict. Dyaimz ( talk) 22:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Has the film been taking particularly creative or aggressive approaches to prevent online streaming? It doesn't seem to exist on surfthechannel today, nor many of the feeder sites like megavideo.
--KelvinHO Wiknerd( talk) 15:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Under the inaccuracies heading there's a short paragraph:
Which cited the website | CERN - Spotlight: Angels and Demons. While the website states both that the Web is their invention, and that the Internet is not, I question the accuracy of which it is a mistake present in the book. Within the book it only states that CERN invented the Web, which is true.
Shall I edit it so that it states: "A misleading statement in the book..."?
--KelvinHO Wiknerd( talk) 15:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I would like to point out that Illuminati is plural (it means the Enlightened Ones; the singular is Illuminatus) so "Illuminati is" is a grammatical error. It happens several times in the article.
Concerning chronology: the stuff that Brown attributes to CERN (antimatter and that special plane) have not been invented yet, so one might imagine the story taking place several years in the future, solving the problem of the camerlengo's age. Of course this in turn creates problems with DA VINCI CODE, where the recent passage of the millenium was a plot element.
I would also like to say that if people use Brown's novels as a source of information (rather than entertainment), then I feel sorry for them. CharlesTheBold ( talk) 19:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
CharlesTheBold ( talk) 22:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I believe there is a mistake in the plot summary, third paragraph, second sentence ...at which point the antimatter will fall, come into contact with the base of the canister... Shouldn't it be at which point the magnetic field will fail, letting the antimatter come in contact with the base of the canister...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielsj ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a mistake in the final sentence of the plot synopsis. Please delete the final sentence —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.97.205 ( talk) 03:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Any thought of adding "Pope Luke" to Cardinal Baggia? He does take on that name in the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.126.117 ( talk) 13:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
"With time on the canister running out, the Swiss Guard begins to evacuate the Basilica. As he is exiting the church, the camerlengo apparently goes into a trance and rushes back into the Basilica, claiming that he has received a vision from God revealing the location of the antimatter canister. With Langdon and a few others in pursuit, the camerlengo ventures deep into the catacombs beneath the Basilica and finds the canister sitting atop the tomb of Saint Peter. Langdon and the camerlengo retrieve the antimatter and get in a helicopter with only five minutes to spare. The camerlengo manages to parachute safely onto the roof of St. Peter's just as the canister explodes harmlessly in the sky. Langdon's fate is not immediately known, as there was not a second parachute on board the helicopter. The crowd in St. Peter's Square look in awe as the camerlengo stands triumphantly before them. Because of this "miracle", the papal conclave debate whether exception to Catholic law should be made to elect the camerlengo as the new Pope. Langdon managed to survive the explosion by using a window cover from the chopper as a parachute, and landed in the Tiber River near Tiber Island, which is famous for its reputation as an island blessed with miracles of healing. He is hurt, but not seriously." This is not true: Professor Langdon stays on the ground, and sees the camerlengo taking off in the helicopter (in the movie, you see that from the point of view of the camerlengo). What does happen, is that when the bomb (antimatter) explodes, a shockwave passes through the Vatican, and Langdon is hurt by that shockwave. I won't edit the article as English is not my native tongue, but I ask someone who speaks English a lot better than me, to edit the article accordingly. Thanks. 85.147.175.69 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC).
Perhaps someone with editing permissions can add another example to the inaccuracies section of the article. The brand name Alfa Romeo, a famous Italian automaker, was repeatedly misspelled throughout the first edition of Angels & Demons.
The mistakes, like many others, were corrected in subsequent printings. This article details and shows examples of the mistakes: http://jalfredproofreader.blogspot.com/2009/09/orgy-of-misspellings-in-blockbuster-dan.html Thank you. Andrew, 12.09.09 66.171.178.162 ( talk) 22:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if it is possible to enter my blog page as a new external link, ( http://faissabdul.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/angels-demons-tour/)
It is something which gives a outline of the path of illumination, and I believe people might find useful.
Faissabdul ( talk) 00:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello. A complete list of links to all foreign language wiki articles seems a bit over the top. I think a sentence saying the number of foreign language editions released would be sufficient. I can not find any featured article books with a list such as this. The note at the top of the list, referring to wikipedia, also seems odd, in that it seems unusual to talk about the project within an article. Beach drifter ( talk) 16:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
I never said you were canvassing. If you read that policy page, you'll see it has nothing to do with starting three identical discussions on three different pages. I was simply offering you a better avenue to pursue issues like this, and cautioning you to keep that particular policy in mind, in case you decided to pursue it.
An article on Dan Brown in translation would be a great idea! We could then summarize the lists I created more succinctly, and direct readers to that main Translation article via a "See this article..." note. Go for it. Let me know if you need any assistance with it. :-)
And please do not break up my posts with your responses. Thanks. :-) Nightscream ( talk) 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
ok, so theres a reference on the page about the "angels and demons decoded" tv show, and it talks about the guy from CERN claiming that 10 billionths of a gram of antimatter has the explosive power roughly equivalent to that of a frecracker, which is supposed to show that they would have needed way more than what they had in the book. however, it says in the book, and i quote, "a ten milligram sample--the volume of a grain of sand--is hypothesized to hold as much energy as about two hundred metric tons of conventional rocket fuel." 10 milligrams is 1,000,000 times that of what the guy on the show was talking about. also, the sample used by the assassin to try to destroy the vatican was .25 g, which is 25,000,000x. i dont know about anyone else, but that seems like alot of firecrackers. -- Late Leo ( talk) 19:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
10 ng of antimatter would be equivalent to 430 micro-tons of TNT, 10 mg would be 430 tons of TNT, and 250 mg, as in the film, would be equivalent to about 5.4 kT. Since a firecracker is about 500 J (or 120 nT of TNT) this should yield 3,600 firecrackers, 3.6 billion firecrackers, and 45 billion firecrackers, respectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.184.50 ( talk) 16:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if you Fiction novel lovers know this but you should all realize that it is far more efficient to use your antimatter in a different manner than is presented in the book-from what I have read about the book the antimatter is in the form of Positrons- Well this does not rule out Antimatters (mainly antiprotons) potential use in small amounts to function as a seed in a nuclear fission weapon of sub critical mass Antimatter catalyzed nuclear pulse propulsion Boundarylayer ( talk) 19:04, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Is there actually any need for this section?? Lots of books invent alternative histories and events, Clive Cussler's Dirk Pitt series (excluding the first 3 of the series) for example, and yet none of them have inaccuracies sections. I think most people would be aware that the book is a fictional story. douts ( talk) 23:26, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
What phrase use Langdon to tell how symbols change their meanings?
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Who might be primary and secondary antogonist of the novel ? B947116 ( talk) 06:08, 20 July 2021 (UTC)