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She is in Venice, Italy shooting the movie with Johnny Deep [1]
It should be added to her filmography.
It's in pre-production, but we can add. We need an announcement as well as reliable sources of that information. Better try for that. Cheerio :) Tanvir 10:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Johnny Depp himself states in this interview that shooting starts this Tuesday [2]
Shooting already start, pictures here: [3] Enough proof to include the movie?
A picture of her naked is in the set of the movie is not enough proof? I give up, include the movie when the first trailer comes out, if you think that the trailer is a reliable source.
I think a sentence or so should be added about "Salt" in "International success, 2001–present" catagory. And yes, there is a poster, trailer and plenty of production photos to prove that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitefox.gabriel ( talk • contribs) 00:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
The picture of Angelina should be changed (at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland) seeing as how it is from 2005. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitefox.gabriel ( talk • contribs) 12:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
The categories that this article has can be put under one category as sub-categories, which is why I am changing it. It is not vandalism, but other FA articles does it as well and to be honest, the article looks neater that way. AhnSoonKyung ( talk) 00:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, I wonder what the odds are for three people to show up here, never having editored here before, all of whom have an interest in articles related to Korea, in support of a particular version created by one of them? I wonder... Did we call in support??? Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Who actually sees that as Jolie-driven project? She didn't appear in the film, only her voice was heard. And who even knew she was a voice in it? That film was made for a little kids. Shouldn't her most commercially successful film she has actually been seen in be mentioned instead? Closeminded8 ( talk) 00:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That a reliable source, in an otherwise factual article, ventures an opinion that someone or someplace is beautiful, that statement is WP:PEACOCK. To draw a comparison with a less emotional topic, how many parks and tourist spots are described as "the most beautiful place on Earth" etc.? Where these statements are not subjective, they are driven by marketing factors. I.e., WP:BIAS. Wikipedia doesn't need the opinion of every Chamber of Commerce, tourist board, and guidebook that a location is "beautiful".
I return to this, because "most beautiful woman" doesn't hold up to any critical evaluation, either. Just what it is about her that — in a testable, provable sense — that is most beautiful? Are her toes the most beautiful? Her molars? Is every part of her more beautiful than any other woman living? If she had a nose job, would she still be "most beautiful"? Is her current rating 99.999997? And would the nose job improve it to 99.9999998? Since there is no way to test whether the statement is true, "most beautiful woman" cannot be in Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is not a beauty contest. There are plenty of objective things to report in Jolie's favor. Allowing peacock in the article casts doubt on her other, genuine accomplishments, with the implicit suggestion that many might just be a matter of opinion. Piano non troppo ( talk) 16:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
And this video on CNN, reporting on a People magazine article today, says that Julia Roberts is. [5] Come on. What's the point? Wiki should report whatever peacock statements magazine editors choose to publish? Piano non troppo ( talk) 20:33, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I think we should at least try to stick to the policies and guidelines, particular WP:BLP, which is strictly enforced:
For a celebrity who trades on her looks, it is important that relevant sections of the media considered her the most beautiful woman in the world. Stephen B Streater ( talk) 22:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree it is not very encyclopaedic when quoted out of the blue. Perhaps we could move it to her role at the time it was announced eg mention it in relation to the Lara Croft movie, if this was one reason for its high profile. Stephen B Streater ( talk) 22:46, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
It's interesting to be in this position, because I was the one who suggested four months ago that the Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life article could be improved by using material in the commentaries. [6] I was impressed, and felt the article wasn't doing her justice. In a sense, that's why I feel on firm ground here. I don't think Jolie thinks she is the most beautiful woman in the world, and I bet, if we asked her, she would prefer to emphasize her other accomplishments. Cheers, Piano non troppo ( talk) 22:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
the article previously contained a link to Jolie's divorce petition to Billy Bob Thorton listing Maddox as being a child of the marriage. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/joliediv1.html has been removed from the article.
Any reason for this? 96.27.38.63 ( talk) 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Why doesn't this article mention that she is left handed? I think it is amply sourced. Debresser ( talk) 21:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/bio |title=Angelina Jolie Biography |accessdate=2010-05-09 |work=IMDb}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.indiana.edu/~primate/left.html |title=Famous Left-Handers |accessdate=2010-05-09 |last=Holder |first=M.K. |publisher=Indiana University}}</ref>
In the External Links section, I think a link to the Maddox Jolie-Pitt Foundation should be added - http://www.mjpasia.org/.
I think this would be of interest to readers as a very constructive avenue for showing support for Ms. Jolie's humanitarian work.
And I believe this would be of interest to Ms. Jolie because it would provide an avenue for her fans to give her support for a project she obviously cares about.
68.245.189.143 ( talk) 04:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC) David Kirshbaum
68.245.189.143 ( talk) 05:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC) David Kirshbaum
that picture has been there for 3 years it needs to be changed.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.225.181 ( talk) 05:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
shes going to be in the second film so should we put that there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.225.181 ( talk) 05:33, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
shoulnt we put a section of all the music videos shes been in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.225.181 ( talk) 02:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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69.180.51.29 (
talk)
13:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Angelina is the direct descendant of Quebec Frenchman, Jean Durand and his Huron wife, Catherine Anenonta married 26 Sep 1662 in Quebec City. She descends through their son, Louis married 9 September 1698 to Elisabeth Michel dit Taillon.. Catherine was born about 1649, and Jean was born about 1636 in Saintes, France. She is also the 6th great granddaughter of Charles /fortier and Spouse, Charlotte Barabe m. 19 Jul1773 in Yamachiche, Quebec, Canada. She descends through their son, Joseph Marie married 16 Jan. 1797 on Louiseville (Riviere-du-Loup) Quebec, Canada to Madeleine Carpentier.
Sources:
Swimmer1940 ( talk) 14:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Under Angelina Jolie's picture, her occupation should be changed from "Film actor" to "Film actress". I believe that actor is masculine and she should have the correct respected label as an actress as stated in her article. 72.28.54.31 ( talk) 23:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)dscalzo
shoulnt we put her a new picture.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.238.97 ( talk) 00:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
It seems this article should be changed back to its original full protection level, instead of this new "accepted revision" lock. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Actor connotes real hard core actors, independant of sex. Ten bucks says she too considers herself an actor as opposed to an actress. Wikipedia's article on her calls her an actress. Please change it. ty —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlsicard ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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Riza Novruz (
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16:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
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Under the Filmography section of the page next to 'Salt', the "Notes" column reads: "(to be released on July 23, 2010)." As of today, the film has been released. This text should therefore be removed.
Rzermatt (
talk)
02:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
lets replace the picture she has with the one were she is in comic con.it is more up to date —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.247.116 ( talk) 07:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Salt has been out for a week now, shouldn't there be information about it in the Career section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Papayaew ( talk • contribs) 06:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I COULD be wrong but I've been reading Andrew Morton's new Unauthorized Biography on Angelina Jolie and I specifically remember those music artists named in which she appeared in their videos. Jeff Healey was not one of them. After reading the Wikipedia article and still knowing this piece of information, I thought nothing of it. I simply looked the video up to have a watch [1]. The girl in this video, though quite similar in some aspects (one being her big cushy lips) is not Angelina Jolie. I have been looking at this woman(Angie) for years in movies, and in photography alike. This lady can't be her. Her teeth aren't near as straight, her face is more rounded. Her eye aren't even quite right (I paused the video to take a better look and replayed the best footage of her throughout the whole video multiple times just to see her expression and movement). I also followed the citation from which the person who added the information to Wikipedia supposedly had gotten it from. Nowhere did I see Jeff Healy. Again, there is always the possibility that I am wrong, but Angie fans...take a look and see for yourself. I also looked her up in the IMDb [2]. It's not there either.
Here is also an independent piece I personally put together in GIMP to show another visual difference:
LadyPortia ( talk) 20:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
You are not wrong...Angelina Jolie is not in the Jeff Healey video. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.127.82.103 (
talk)
00:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Should the recent news be added to this article about the Pakistani minister trying to flirt with Jolie by giving her his visiting card? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pakistani888 ( talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted this change to the established style of a table in this article, which has long had the colored won/nom as used in many other articles. This table also has a horizontal structure that some editors prefer. See Talk:Halle_Berry#Awards_style for more info. Gimmetoo ( talk) 17:28, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
shoulnt we discuss that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.250.30 ( talk) 02:59, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
[7] Enough of this. I have searched for any even partially acceptable source which suggests this, and have found none. Per WP:BLP, these unsourced changes are inappropriate. Non-working sources [8] don't help matters - that suggests fake sourcing. Neither does seeding yahoo answers [9] a few hours ago. Any further attempts to change this must be discussed first. Gimmetoo ( talk) 05:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | → | Archive 12 |
She is in Venice, Italy shooting the movie with Johnny Deep [1]
It should be added to her filmography.
It's in pre-production, but we can add. We need an announcement as well as reliable sources of that information. Better try for that. Cheerio :) Tanvir 10:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Johnny Depp himself states in this interview that shooting starts this Tuesday [2]
Shooting already start, pictures here: [3] Enough proof to include the movie?
A picture of her naked is in the set of the movie is not enough proof? I give up, include the movie when the first trailer comes out, if you think that the trailer is a reliable source.
I think a sentence or so should be added about "Salt" in "International success, 2001–present" catagory. And yes, there is a poster, trailer and plenty of production photos to prove that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitefox.gabriel ( talk • contribs) 00:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
The picture of Angelina should be changed (at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland) seeing as how it is from 2005. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitefox.gabriel ( talk • contribs) 12:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
The categories that this article has can be put under one category as sub-categories, which is why I am changing it. It is not vandalism, but other FA articles does it as well and to be honest, the article looks neater that way. AhnSoonKyung ( talk) 00:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, I wonder what the odds are for three people to show up here, never having editored here before, all of whom have an interest in articles related to Korea, in support of a particular version created by one of them? I wonder... Did we call in support??? Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Who actually sees that as Jolie-driven project? She didn't appear in the film, only her voice was heard. And who even knew she was a voice in it? That film was made for a little kids. Shouldn't her most commercially successful film she has actually been seen in be mentioned instead? Closeminded8 ( talk) 00:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That a reliable source, in an otherwise factual article, ventures an opinion that someone or someplace is beautiful, that statement is WP:PEACOCK. To draw a comparison with a less emotional topic, how many parks and tourist spots are described as "the most beautiful place on Earth" etc.? Where these statements are not subjective, they are driven by marketing factors. I.e., WP:BIAS. Wikipedia doesn't need the opinion of every Chamber of Commerce, tourist board, and guidebook that a location is "beautiful".
I return to this, because "most beautiful woman" doesn't hold up to any critical evaluation, either. Just what it is about her that — in a testable, provable sense — that is most beautiful? Are her toes the most beautiful? Her molars? Is every part of her more beautiful than any other woman living? If she had a nose job, would she still be "most beautiful"? Is her current rating 99.999997? And would the nose job improve it to 99.9999998? Since there is no way to test whether the statement is true, "most beautiful woman" cannot be in Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is not a beauty contest. There are plenty of objective things to report in Jolie's favor. Allowing peacock in the article casts doubt on her other, genuine accomplishments, with the implicit suggestion that many might just be a matter of opinion. Piano non troppo ( talk) 16:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
And this video on CNN, reporting on a People magazine article today, says that Julia Roberts is. [5] Come on. What's the point? Wiki should report whatever peacock statements magazine editors choose to publish? Piano non troppo ( talk) 20:33, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I think we should at least try to stick to the policies and guidelines, particular WP:BLP, which is strictly enforced:
For a celebrity who trades on her looks, it is important that relevant sections of the media considered her the most beautiful woman in the world. Stephen B Streater ( talk) 22:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree it is not very encyclopaedic when quoted out of the blue. Perhaps we could move it to her role at the time it was announced eg mention it in relation to the Lara Croft movie, if this was one reason for its high profile. Stephen B Streater ( talk) 22:46, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
It's interesting to be in this position, because I was the one who suggested four months ago that the Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life article could be improved by using material in the commentaries. [6] I was impressed, and felt the article wasn't doing her justice. In a sense, that's why I feel on firm ground here. I don't think Jolie thinks she is the most beautiful woman in the world, and I bet, if we asked her, she would prefer to emphasize her other accomplishments. Cheers, Piano non troppo ( talk) 22:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
the article previously contained a link to Jolie's divorce petition to Billy Bob Thorton listing Maddox as being a child of the marriage. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/joliediv1.html has been removed from the article.
Any reason for this? 96.27.38.63 ( talk) 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Why doesn't this article mention that she is left handed? I think it is amply sourced. Debresser ( talk) 21:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/bio |title=Angelina Jolie Biography |accessdate=2010-05-09 |work=IMDb}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.indiana.edu/~primate/left.html |title=Famous Left-Handers |accessdate=2010-05-09 |last=Holder |first=M.K. |publisher=Indiana University}}</ref>
In the External Links section, I think a link to the Maddox Jolie-Pitt Foundation should be added - http://www.mjpasia.org/.
I think this would be of interest to readers as a very constructive avenue for showing support for Ms. Jolie's humanitarian work.
And I believe this would be of interest to Ms. Jolie because it would provide an avenue for her fans to give her support for a project she obviously cares about.
68.245.189.143 ( talk) 04:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC) David Kirshbaum
68.245.189.143 ( talk) 05:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC) David Kirshbaum
that picture has been there for 3 years it needs to be changed.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.225.181 ( talk) 05:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
shes going to be in the second film so should we put that there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.225.181 ( talk) 05:33, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
shoulnt we put a section of all the music videos shes been in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.225.181 ( talk) 02:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
69.180.51.29 (
talk)
13:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Angelina is the direct descendant of Quebec Frenchman, Jean Durand and his Huron wife, Catherine Anenonta married 26 Sep 1662 in Quebec City. She descends through their son, Louis married 9 September 1698 to Elisabeth Michel dit Taillon.. Catherine was born about 1649, and Jean was born about 1636 in Saintes, France. She is also the 6th great granddaughter of Charles /fortier and Spouse, Charlotte Barabe m. 19 Jul1773 in Yamachiche, Quebec, Canada. She descends through their son, Joseph Marie married 16 Jan. 1797 on Louiseville (Riviere-du-Loup) Quebec, Canada to Madeleine Carpentier.
Sources:
Swimmer1940 ( talk) 14:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Under Angelina Jolie's picture, her occupation should be changed from "Film actor" to "Film actress". I believe that actor is masculine and she should have the correct respected label as an actress as stated in her article. 72.28.54.31 ( talk) 23:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)dscalzo
shoulnt we put her a new picture.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.238.97 ( talk) 00:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
It seems this article should be changed back to its original full protection level, instead of this new "accepted revision" lock. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Actor connotes real hard core actors, independant of sex. Ten bucks says she too considers herself an actor as opposed to an actress. Wikipedia's article on her calls her an actress. Please change it. ty —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlsicard ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}}
Riza Novruz (
talk)
16:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
{{
editsemiprotected}}
Under the Filmography section of the page next to 'Salt', the "Notes" column reads: "(to be released on July 23, 2010)." As of today, the film has been released. This text should therefore be removed.
Rzermatt (
talk)
02:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
lets replace the picture she has with the one were she is in comic con.it is more up to date —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.247.116 ( talk) 07:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Salt has been out for a week now, shouldn't there be information about it in the Career section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Papayaew ( talk • contribs) 06:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I COULD be wrong but I've been reading Andrew Morton's new Unauthorized Biography on Angelina Jolie and I specifically remember those music artists named in which she appeared in their videos. Jeff Healey was not one of them. After reading the Wikipedia article and still knowing this piece of information, I thought nothing of it. I simply looked the video up to have a watch [1]. The girl in this video, though quite similar in some aspects (one being her big cushy lips) is not Angelina Jolie. I have been looking at this woman(Angie) for years in movies, and in photography alike. This lady can't be her. Her teeth aren't near as straight, her face is more rounded. Her eye aren't even quite right (I paused the video to take a better look and replayed the best footage of her throughout the whole video multiple times just to see her expression and movement). I also followed the citation from which the person who added the information to Wikipedia supposedly had gotten it from. Nowhere did I see Jeff Healy. Again, there is always the possibility that I am wrong, but Angie fans...take a look and see for yourself. I also looked her up in the IMDb [2]. It's not there either.
Here is also an independent piece I personally put together in GIMP to show another visual difference:
LadyPortia ( talk) 20:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
You are not wrong...Angelina Jolie is not in the Jeff Healey video. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.127.82.103 (
talk)
00:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Should the recent news be added to this article about the Pakistani minister trying to flirt with Jolie by giving her his visiting card? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pakistani888 ( talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted this change to the established style of a table in this article, which has long had the colored won/nom as used in many other articles. This table also has a horizontal structure that some editors prefer. See Talk:Halle_Berry#Awards_style for more info. Gimmetoo ( talk) 17:28, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
shoulnt we discuss that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.250.30 ( talk) 02:59, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
[7] Enough of this. I have searched for any even partially acceptable source which suggests this, and have found none. Per WP:BLP, these unsourced changes are inappropriate. Non-working sources [8] don't help matters - that suggests fake sourcing. Neither does seeding yahoo answers [9] a few hours ago. Any further attempts to change this must be discussed first. Gimmetoo ( talk) 05:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)