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I think this article needs to be cleaned up... very unprofessional in generall.. any ideas ?? easytiger 15:03, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
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After making passing references since Wikipedia was announced in 2001, Orlowski first criticized Wikipedia in The Register in mid-2004,[7] and what began as incidental mockery — often involving responses to reader's emails and characterised by his coinage of the neologism wiki-fiddler[8] — soon became a regular subject of his journalism. To Orlowski, Wikipedia is "a hobby, a multiplayer game and a repository for fan trivia"[9] with the accuracy of articles varying "from the occasionally passable to the frequently risible, while its all-important readability is even worse — and deteriorating."
Incidental mockery - confusing, words can be simplified
Wiki-fiddler - requires an entire section explaining why fiddler is used
"soon became a regular subject of his journalism" - relevance, notability, source, NPOV? Besides this, it unnecessarily expands what is already being written below and makes the article read more like it was written by someone who has an agenda.
By December 2005, several such articles were being published each week, with subject matter including the characterisation of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales as a petty hypocrite and pornographer[10] and average Wikipedians as rebellious children ("He's 14, he's got acne, he's got a lot of problems with authority ... and he's got an encyclopedia on dar interweb."[11]), as well as a spoof article which announced that Wales had been shot.[12]
Notability?
Orlowski's comments indicate he believes Wikipedia is undergoverned (and thus of poor quality and morally hazardous[9]) and unnecessary (in that "expensive databases" of information will become publicly accessible in the near future — "The good stuff will just come out of a computer network"[11] — and well-capitalised enterprises will provide "much more attractive" alternatives[13]).
This reads like an attack piece.
What I see the main problem with this whole section is, rather than add and link many of the authors claims with criticisms of wikipedia, it goes on to take quotes out of context thus actually making the original articles it was based on more NPOV than this section.
I would edit it, unfortunately I just don't know how without removing the sources entirely. I suggest the editors go at this more on listing the wikipedia criticisms this person has written about, ignore the sensationalism and leave the readers to judge for themselves through the source and then insert the bits where the author differs his views more from the actual criticisms of wikipedia page without resorting to taking words out of context.
From how I'm reading this now, the quality isn't merely an NPOV issue. The whole section definitely misrepresents the person if read by a reader without verifying the sources and tries to paint a poorer image of said person and fails horribly at doing so that a reader would most likely come away wondering "what that was all about" -- Trailing 11:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Makes no sense. Contributor possibly means "utopianism". But being "mildly utopian" makes as much sense as being "slightly dead".
- unsourced. Maybe Jimbo can say it now so we can include it ;-)
- previously removed for NPOV. "Hawk" is a psuedonymous blogger with an Orlowski obsession. Above added by User:200.2.128.2
Probably not notable enough to put on the page proper, but this humorous article by Verity Stob purporting to be a conversation between a Dalek and Billie Piper between takes during the last series of Doctor Who includes this bit about what a Dalek does online:
Cute. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 20:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
The AfD for Wikifiddler will determine whether the contents will stay under that title, whether they will be merged to a different article, or whether they will be deleted without merge. Your repeated copying of the entire article to Andrew Orlowski before the conclusion of that AfD is an attempt to circumvent the process, and the fact that you are doing so in bad faith, aware that what you do is wrong, is shown by your falsely flagging it each time as a "minor edit" (disputed edits are never minor edits, refusing to use an edit summary, and your failure to note on either talk page that you are copying the entire contents of one article verbatim into the other. Your chutzpah in describing it as "vandalism" when these bad-faith edits of yours are reverted is stupidity. Are you really so very in love with Orlowski that when he rants about Wikipedians who act badly you have to leap to fulfill his prophecy by exhibiting the worst behavior you can calculate? -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Now that the article Wikifiddler has been deleted, I am unsure what to do with the material User:DannyWilde keeps inserting, i.e. a verbatim copy of Wikifiddler. I originally told him to stop doing that until the AfD is over, well now it is. Is there a Wikipedia Requests for trimming or something? — JIP | Talk 14:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
There's no Wikipedia entry for 'moral responsibility'.
-- nyenyec ☎ 03:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
"generally hostile"? Are you sure? I just read the article, and while it didn't exactly paint Wikipedia in glowing terms it isn't what I'd consider outright hostile by any means. Sarcastic, definitely. (There's a difference.)
Why is Jimmy Wales' description of Andrew Orlowski as a "professional troll" notable? I happen to think Cindy Crawford is a moron but you won't find my quote on the subject there. (Hey, maybe I should go add it.) I strongly doubt Jimmy Wales is the best person to judge the situation.
Etc. I'm not a fan of Andrew Orlowski, but it would be a real stretch to call this article neutral. 12.103.251.203 05:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
He is out to get Wikipedia. Dunno what his problem is. The guy is very unobjective for a journalist. easytiger 14:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey, he writes for an online British tabloid so objectivity and accuracy are strictly optional. An inflammatory article probably gets him a gold star and a pat on the back. Stoo 21:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Keep it that way. This format will control your rabid urge to defend Wikipedia in this article. KEEP IT THAT WAY. Lotsofissues 19:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Every time Orlowski stamps out another "witty" diatribe against Wikipedia, do we need to link it here? Do we do this for any other human shitstaingadfly with a bug up his butt? No, we don't, and although some people might claim that because the target is Wikipedia we need to skew coverage in favor of the critics to prove we're not skewing it in favor of Wikipedia, I think that's clearly poppycock. Orlowski's latest "coup" can be summed up in one sentence: "I can vandalize Wikipedia and make it say false things." That's it. Not even "and despite Wikipedia's claims about how fast vandalism is corrected, my false claims stayed up for X hours." Orlowski apparently even felt the need to tell an outright lie:
Translation: "The London Times were not in any way fooled by my vandalistic edits which claimed there had been a shooting. However, doesn't it sound much better if I lie and say they were?" The Times article was in fact about how Wikipedia was being hit by waves of coordinated vandal attacks in the wake of the favorable comparison to Britannica. So all Orlowski has proved is that if he's allowed to cherry-pick his facts, he can wrap a meager quantity of them in a blanket of shit and call it an article. Do we need to link it every time he does so? No. -- Antaeus Feldspar 13:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Is Orlowski's criticism of Wikipedia a big part of his "salience", so to speak, or a small part? If it's a big part, we should have a separate section for it. If it's a small part, we don't need to reference every single article he's written on the matter.
My own opinion is that it's a small part: he's done a lot more besides write on Wikipedia that would qualify him for an article here. — Ashley Y 06:30, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
It´s hopeless. This article can´t be maintained. -- Lotsofissues 21:16, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
We need to lose the fanboy (or anti-fanboy) edits. Everytime he criticises Wikipedia 100 people seem to write to the register. It's like we're a cult or something.. Secretlondon 21:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't think so. He targetted Rob Levin and others - see http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html as well about his particular brand of sloppy journalism. Nice to know who we are dealing with here! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Are there any third-party sources available for Orlowski? SlimVirgin (talk) 00:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Since this is an interspace link, do we want it? JoshuaZ 14:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I've sent a few mails to Orlowski via The Register's webforms about the concept of fallacy. It seems to me that his problem with Wikipedia hinges on the lack of 'authority' of the contributors. To him, an encyclopedia must be authoritative. Even though argument from authority and appeal to authority are fallacies. The irony is palpable. He puts forth on the fallability of contributors, whilst being incapable of grasping philosophical aspects of truth. I can't deny it annoys me that he's employed as a journalist, but without wishing to sound bitter, ultimately his work isn't widely read, so what harm can he do?
The photograph now on the article page is from a website carrying an article about a farewell party for Orlowski on May 26th. He has though had an article published on The Register today. Alan Pascoe 21:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
We (El Reg readers) should be so lucky. -- CRConrad ( talk) 23:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
The article contained a link to the Power disambiguation page. Since that page consists of a list of possibly relevant articles ( Power (sociology) or Economic power) as well as obviously irrelevant articles (such as Electric power) I judged that the link would only distract a reader, and changed from a link to an ordinary word. Gerry Ashton 14:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
No slam on Andrew at all, but it seems doubtful that an article about AO would exist if he were not a vocal critic of Wikipedia.
It is also amazing that, in an article that is around 687 words long, around 284 of them (over a third) concern what AO has said about Wikipedia. Obviously, this is the only part of his work that is of interest to most Wikipedians, but that doesn't mean that it's suitable material for a Wikipedia article. Or is it? Perhaps it is, if the main consumers of Wikipedia articles are supposed to be Wikipedians themselves. But if not, then you might ask unbiased consumers of tech journalism, who are familiar with his work, on what topics he has done his best work--and then write about that. Maybe it's Wikipedia, but no doubt few people working on this article actually have the faintest clue.
I'd like to point out that the Citizendium will almost certainly have a policy against undue self-reference. Wikipedia of course has some language to that effect, but it doesn't enforce it. CZ will enforce its policy and will, thus, be a little less navel-gazing. -- Larry Sanger 07:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following bit:
This is because, I gather, blogs are not normally considered to be reliable sources. Ben Standeven 07:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Removed the edits of a banned user. FloNight ♥♥♥ 19:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
While I agree that The Register has sometimes been a bit harsh on Wikipedia, the section in this article talking about P2P seem to have completely missed the point. The Register is has a somewhat satirical, cynical and irreverent style, but I can see no evidence in the references cited that A.O. is down on P2P filesharers. He pokes fun at them and calls them "freetards", but does this mean that he is against P2P? I don't think so! cojoco ( talk) 05:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Well interactions with Wikipedia is about the most important thing in this world, but haven't he done more than just criticised Wikipedia, if that was what he did. ... said: Rursus ( bork²) 14:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
I've moved this section here for discussion & repair. As it stands, it has obvious Original Research and/or Synthesis, both of which violate WP:BLP policy.
Orlowski has produced numerous articles that aim to cast doubt over anthropogenic climate change, or global warming. [3] His articles often favour non-scientific pundits over the scientific community, for example his defence of Christopher Monckton against the American Physical Society. [4]
Note that both statements are unsuported by thiird-party cites -- they appear to be the interpretations of the editor(s) who wrote this bit. Thanks, Pete Tillman ( talk) 18:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes I can't find any reliable source mentioning any of this. (the AGW stuff above) In fact are there any secondary sites that discuss his stuff at all? Does he fail notability? The badpress article he quotes doesn't seem to be a reliable source. Dmcq ( talk) 22:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Okay have nominated for deletion as I can't find anything halfway reasonable. I'm a bit surprised but then I've read the Register for a while and I guess one doesn't realize how little interest anyone else takes of the stuff he writes. Dmcq ( talk) 11:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
I'll add more as I find them -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
The first sentence of The Register section says, "Orlowski became a columnist based in San Francisco, U.S. for The Register in 2000." There has been a citation needed tag on this sentence for a long time. I see two things in the sentence that might have been challenged: "based in San Francisco" and "in 2000." Many of Orlowski's columns state that he is "in San Francisco", so I'm fine with leaving that in without a citation. If someone wants a source, we can use one of Orlowski's columns.
However, I've been unable to find a reliable source for "in 2000." If no one else has a reliable source, I suggest we remove that phrase and change the verb: "Orlowski is a columnist based in San Francisco, U.S. for The Register." The citation needed tag could then be removed. -- JTSchreiber ( talk) 06:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I've tagged this article as relying on primary sources. It could be improved by including secondary sources that may indicate the actual significance of this living person's encyclopedically biographical accomplishments. Here are some links that might help:
Happy editing! JFHJr ( ㊟) 05:54, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Looking at the page, I see nothing really 'notable' there, except a few talked about Tech-utopianism, and some wikipedia-trolling. His one potential claim to notability is "he coined the term googlewashing", a term very seldom used (and which links to google-bombing here) so isn't that notable either. Almost everything 'notable' about him is to do with his work at The Register so it should probably be merged there. 192.238.21.217 ( talk) 00:51, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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I think this article needs to be cleaned up... very unprofessional in generall.. any ideas ?? easytiger 15:03, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Added Cleanup Tag
After making passing references since Wikipedia was announced in 2001, Orlowski first criticized Wikipedia in The Register in mid-2004,[7] and what began as incidental mockery — often involving responses to reader's emails and characterised by his coinage of the neologism wiki-fiddler[8] — soon became a regular subject of his journalism. To Orlowski, Wikipedia is "a hobby, a multiplayer game and a repository for fan trivia"[9] with the accuracy of articles varying "from the occasionally passable to the frequently risible, while its all-important readability is even worse — and deteriorating."
Incidental mockery - confusing, words can be simplified
Wiki-fiddler - requires an entire section explaining why fiddler is used
"soon became a regular subject of his journalism" - relevance, notability, source, NPOV? Besides this, it unnecessarily expands what is already being written below and makes the article read more like it was written by someone who has an agenda.
By December 2005, several such articles were being published each week, with subject matter including the characterisation of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales as a petty hypocrite and pornographer[10] and average Wikipedians as rebellious children ("He's 14, he's got acne, he's got a lot of problems with authority ... and he's got an encyclopedia on dar interweb."[11]), as well as a spoof article which announced that Wales had been shot.[12]
Notability?
Orlowski's comments indicate he believes Wikipedia is undergoverned (and thus of poor quality and morally hazardous[9]) and unnecessary (in that "expensive databases" of information will become publicly accessible in the near future — "The good stuff will just come out of a computer network"[11] — and well-capitalised enterprises will provide "much more attractive" alternatives[13]).
This reads like an attack piece.
What I see the main problem with this whole section is, rather than add and link many of the authors claims with criticisms of wikipedia, it goes on to take quotes out of context thus actually making the original articles it was based on more NPOV than this section.
I would edit it, unfortunately I just don't know how without removing the sources entirely. I suggest the editors go at this more on listing the wikipedia criticisms this person has written about, ignore the sensationalism and leave the readers to judge for themselves through the source and then insert the bits where the author differs his views more from the actual criticisms of wikipedia page without resorting to taking words out of context.
From how I'm reading this now, the quality isn't merely an NPOV issue. The whole section definitely misrepresents the person if read by a reader without verifying the sources and tries to paint a poorer image of said person and fails horribly at doing so that a reader would most likely come away wondering "what that was all about" -- Trailing 11:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Makes no sense. Contributor possibly means "utopianism". But being "mildly utopian" makes as much sense as being "slightly dead".
- unsourced. Maybe Jimbo can say it now so we can include it ;-)
- previously removed for NPOV. "Hawk" is a psuedonymous blogger with an Orlowski obsession. Above added by User:200.2.128.2
Probably not notable enough to put on the page proper, but this humorous article by Verity Stob purporting to be a conversation between a Dalek and Billie Piper between takes during the last series of Doctor Who includes this bit about what a Dalek does online:
Cute. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 20:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
The AfD for Wikifiddler will determine whether the contents will stay under that title, whether they will be merged to a different article, or whether they will be deleted without merge. Your repeated copying of the entire article to Andrew Orlowski before the conclusion of that AfD is an attempt to circumvent the process, and the fact that you are doing so in bad faith, aware that what you do is wrong, is shown by your falsely flagging it each time as a "minor edit" (disputed edits are never minor edits, refusing to use an edit summary, and your failure to note on either talk page that you are copying the entire contents of one article verbatim into the other. Your chutzpah in describing it as "vandalism" when these bad-faith edits of yours are reverted is stupidity. Are you really so very in love with Orlowski that when he rants about Wikipedians who act badly you have to leap to fulfill his prophecy by exhibiting the worst behavior you can calculate? -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Now that the article Wikifiddler has been deleted, I am unsure what to do with the material User:DannyWilde keeps inserting, i.e. a verbatim copy of Wikifiddler. I originally told him to stop doing that until the AfD is over, well now it is. Is there a Wikipedia Requests for trimming or something? — JIP | Talk 14:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
There's no Wikipedia entry for 'moral responsibility'.
-- nyenyec ☎ 03:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
"generally hostile"? Are you sure? I just read the article, and while it didn't exactly paint Wikipedia in glowing terms it isn't what I'd consider outright hostile by any means. Sarcastic, definitely. (There's a difference.)
Why is Jimmy Wales' description of Andrew Orlowski as a "professional troll" notable? I happen to think Cindy Crawford is a moron but you won't find my quote on the subject there. (Hey, maybe I should go add it.) I strongly doubt Jimmy Wales is the best person to judge the situation.
Etc. I'm not a fan of Andrew Orlowski, but it would be a real stretch to call this article neutral. 12.103.251.203 05:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
He is out to get Wikipedia. Dunno what his problem is. The guy is very unobjective for a journalist. easytiger 14:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey, he writes for an online British tabloid so objectivity and accuracy are strictly optional. An inflammatory article probably gets him a gold star and a pat on the back. Stoo 21:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Keep it that way. This format will control your rabid urge to defend Wikipedia in this article. KEEP IT THAT WAY. Lotsofissues 19:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Every time Orlowski stamps out another "witty" diatribe against Wikipedia, do we need to link it here? Do we do this for any other human shitstaingadfly with a bug up his butt? No, we don't, and although some people might claim that because the target is Wikipedia we need to skew coverage in favor of the critics to prove we're not skewing it in favor of Wikipedia, I think that's clearly poppycock. Orlowski's latest "coup" can be summed up in one sentence: "I can vandalize Wikipedia and make it say false things." That's it. Not even "and despite Wikipedia's claims about how fast vandalism is corrected, my false claims stayed up for X hours." Orlowski apparently even felt the need to tell an outright lie:
Translation: "The London Times were not in any way fooled by my vandalistic edits which claimed there had been a shooting. However, doesn't it sound much better if I lie and say they were?" The Times article was in fact about how Wikipedia was being hit by waves of coordinated vandal attacks in the wake of the favorable comparison to Britannica. So all Orlowski has proved is that if he's allowed to cherry-pick his facts, he can wrap a meager quantity of them in a blanket of shit and call it an article. Do we need to link it every time he does so? No. -- Antaeus Feldspar 13:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Is Orlowski's criticism of Wikipedia a big part of his "salience", so to speak, or a small part? If it's a big part, we should have a separate section for it. If it's a small part, we don't need to reference every single article he's written on the matter.
My own opinion is that it's a small part: he's done a lot more besides write on Wikipedia that would qualify him for an article here. — Ashley Y 06:30, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
It´s hopeless. This article can´t be maintained. -- Lotsofissues 21:16, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
We need to lose the fanboy (or anti-fanboy) edits. Everytime he criticises Wikipedia 100 people seem to write to the register. It's like we're a cult or something.. Secretlondon 21:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't think so. He targetted Rob Levin and others - see http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html as well about his particular brand of sloppy journalism. Nice to know who we are dealing with here! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Are there any third-party sources available for Orlowski? SlimVirgin (talk) 00:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Since this is an interspace link, do we want it? JoshuaZ 14:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I've sent a few mails to Orlowski via The Register's webforms about the concept of fallacy. It seems to me that his problem with Wikipedia hinges on the lack of 'authority' of the contributors. To him, an encyclopedia must be authoritative. Even though argument from authority and appeal to authority are fallacies. The irony is palpable. He puts forth on the fallability of contributors, whilst being incapable of grasping philosophical aspects of truth. I can't deny it annoys me that he's employed as a journalist, but without wishing to sound bitter, ultimately his work isn't widely read, so what harm can he do?
The photograph now on the article page is from a website carrying an article about a farewell party for Orlowski on May 26th. He has though had an article published on The Register today. Alan Pascoe 21:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
We (El Reg readers) should be so lucky. -- CRConrad ( talk) 23:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
The article contained a link to the Power disambiguation page. Since that page consists of a list of possibly relevant articles ( Power (sociology) or Economic power) as well as obviously irrelevant articles (such as Electric power) I judged that the link would only distract a reader, and changed from a link to an ordinary word. Gerry Ashton 14:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
No slam on Andrew at all, but it seems doubtful that an article about AO would exist if he were not a vocal critic of Wikipedia.
It is also amazing that, in an article that is around 687 words long, around 284 of them (over a third) concern what AO has said about Wikipedia. Obviously, this is the only part of his work that is of interest to most Wikipedians, but that doesn't mean that it's suitable material for a Wikipedia article. Or is it? Perhaps it is, if the main consumers of Wikipedia articles are supposed to be Wikipedians themselves. But if not, then you might ask unbiased consumers of tech journalism, who are familiar with his work, on what topics he has done his best work--and then write about that. Maybe it's Wikipedia, but no doubt few people working on this article actually have the faintest clue.
I'd like to point out that the Citizendium will almost certainly have a policy against undue self-reference. Wikipedia of course has some language to that effect, but it doesn't enforce it. CZ will enforce its policy and will, thus, be a little less navel-gazing. -- Larry Sanger 07:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following bit:
This is because, I gather, blogs are not normally considered to be reliable sources. Ben Standeven 07:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Removed the edits of a banned user. FloNight ♥♥♥ 19:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
While I agree that The Register has sometimes been a bit harsh on Wikipedia, the section in this article talking about P2P seem to have completely missed the point. The Register is has a somewhat satirical, cynical and irreverent style, but I can see no evidence in the references cited that A.O. is down on P2P filesharers. He pokes fun at them and calls them "freetards", but does this mean that he is against P2P? I don't think so! cojoco ( talk) 05:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Well interactions with Wikipedia is about the most important thing in this world, but haven't he done more than just criticised Wikipedia, if that was what he did. ... said: Rursus ( bork²) 14:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
I've moved this section here for discussion & repair. As it stands, it has obvious Original Research and/or Synthesis, both of which violate WP:BLP policy.
Orlowski has produced numerous articles that aim to cast doubt over anthropogenic climate change, or global warming. [3] His articles often favour non-scientific pundits over the scientific community, for example his defence of Christopher Monckton against the American Physical Society. [4]
Note that both statements are unsuported by thiird-party cites -- they appear to be the interpretations of the editor(s) who wrote this bit. Thanks, Pete Tillman ( talk) 18:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes I can't find any reliable source mentioning any of this. (the AGW stuff above) In fact are there any secondary sites that discuss his stuff at all? Does he fail notability? The badpress article he quotes doesn't seem to be a reliable source. Dmcq ( talk) 22:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Okay have nominated for deletion as I can't find anything halfway reasonable. I'm a bit surprised but then I've read the Register for a while and I guess one doesn't realize how little interest anyone else takes of the stuff he writes. Dmcq ( talk) 11:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
I'll add more as I find them -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
The first sentence of The Register section says, "Orlowski became a columnist based in San Francisco, U.S. for The Register in 2000." There has been a citation needed tag on this sentence for a long time. I see two things in the sentence that might have been challenged: "based in San Francisco" and "in 2000." Many of Orlowski's columns state that he is "in San Francisco", so I'm fine with leaving that in without a citation. If someone wants a source, we can use one of Orlowski's columns.
However, I've been unable to find a reliable source for "in 2000." If no one else has a reliable source, I suggest we remove that phrase and change the verb: "Orlowski is a columnist based in San Francisco, U.S. for The Register." The citation needed tag could then be removed. -- JTSchreiber ( talk) 06:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I've tagged this article as relying on primary sources. It could be improved by including secondary sources that may indicate the actual significance of this living person's encyclopedically biographical accomplishments. Here are some links that might help:
Happy editing! JFHJr ( ㊟) 05:54, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Looking at the page, I see nothing really 'notable' there, except a few talked about Tech-utopianism, and some wikipedia-trolling. His one potential claim to notability is "he coined the term googlewashing", a term very seldom used (and which links to google-bombing here) so isn't that notable either. Almost everything 'notable' about him is to do with his work at The Register so it should probably be merged there. 192.238.21.217 ( talk) 00:51, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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