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Andrew Martinez is a significant figure in the public nudity movement. His actions influenced college rules and city laws and inspired a generation of activists. The speedy deletion notice was posted within minutes of me starting the article and I do not appreciate that. Dandelion1 05:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Would titling this article Andrew Martinez with a redirect from The Naked Guy be more appropriate and in line with other biographical articles? -- MisterHand 05:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I wrote about Martinez's Death in a blog entry
not sure what is correct protocol for showing it here but i will try
HE DIED FOR YOUR CLOTHES
Today in the Berkeley Planet i read about the death of the naked guy
I was thinking about his death on the way home
& then the age part hit me
he was 33 like JC
hence the title of this entry
I met Andrew at a Cloine Court party before he became "the naked guy" He impressed me as being so very gentle
There is an aspect about some large mesomorphs where they feel relaxed and are not trying to show physical dominance
Andrew showed this quality when I met him at the "mosh pit" at the Cloine court party his demeaner was so relaxed and unintrusive I knew that I did not have to worry about getting hit from his direction He really changed the vibe cuz he was so strong but gentle
i edited it to be less gonzo and more about him
in the above
the entry in full is below
http://9thgp.blogspot.com/2006/05/he-died-for-your-clothes.html fcking2000@yahoo.com Festus Christopher King
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.6.230.243 ( talk • contribs).
At first this sounded like an inspiring story about someone who took a stand, but it kinda sounds like all he managed to do was change his school and city from "technically clothing optional but nobody took advantage" to "nudity being banned now that someone had pushed it". That's quite sad..—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.92.176.7 ( talk • contribs).
If I'm not mistaken, the book in which Naomi Wolf praised the Naked Guy is "Fire With Fire". I don't have a copy anymore, but if someone else does, that's what is needed for a citation.—Preceding unsigned comment added by SDRendino ( talk • contribs)
Removed image as unecessary. my 12 yo daughter hit the random page button to see some guys cock and balls hanging out...a picture of the dudes face would be fine to show who he is.. dont need to see his penis to get the drift of article...wikipedia isnt berkeley...even nudist magazines are sold from BEHIND THE COUNTER.. - 24.61.191.86 ( talk) 23:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
At issue is the interpretation of WP:NOTCENSORED. Above, two readers have expressed appropriateness, even offensiveness, concerns about the image, while an editor has suggested the image is permissible under WP policy, and another editor (filer of this Request for Comments) has challenged this assertion (with regard to this particular article and photo). — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 11:02, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
What would clearly be the best compromise is to use an image that shows him naked but without displaying his genitals. While there is certainly an argument that it is valuable for a wikipedia article on someone who is a nudist to include a nude photograph of him, but i can see no argument that it is more informative if that photograph is very explicit in any way. The existing image used is not a free image anyway and there are multiple other images that would show him naked or nearly naked without explicitly showing hiss genitals and i would suggest replacement with one of those, perhaps this one? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2006/05/21/NAKEDGUY.TMP&o=0 (following WP:NFCI of course) Ajbpearce ( talk) 02:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
which seemed to be the most supported option. Ajbpearce ( talk) 11:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
why does the article say he "developed" mental illness after coming back from europe.. I mean hello... he jogged around the neighborhood naked and even had to get arrested for it.. gee someone miss that writing on the wall? Should the article be more npov.. I mean some would assume a grown man who jogs around the nieghborhood in the nude to be mentally ill.. maybe the article should say..at some point.. he developed a mental illness..as usually you dont just "become" crazy as for all we know he was nuts all along.. no pun intended - 24.61.191.86 ( talk) 23:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The article states he was buried at Agnews Historical Cemetery in Santa Clara. That's highly unlikely. That Cemetery is a historical landmark listed on the U.S. NPS site, [1], and holds only the victims of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake from Agnews State Hospital. It's a tiny plot of land left more or less undisturbed from the time the Hospital was closed and sold to Sun Microsystems and land developers in 1997. The only cite for this is "Grave of Andrew Martinez". Find A Grave. Retrieved 2009-01-03.; that site exists, but FAG is a user-edited site and not a reliable source. In fact, this entry is the only non-1906 death that FAG lists for this cemetery. See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=1984683. I've searched elsewhere, and FAG and Wikipedia (or Wikipedia derivatives) are the only sources that say he's buried in this cemetery. Absent a reliable source, I'm removing this. TJRC ( talk) 17:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The table says '73 and the category says '72 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.205.104 ( talk) 00:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
In the version of the story I have heard about this guy, the Berkley administration only enacted the campus ban on public nudity when female students alleged that the Naked Guy's behavior constituted sexual harassment. Is this true? Do any of the books or articles on the subject mention this aspect of the story? -- 2610:E0:A040:E0F5:BCBB:B636:8869:16D3 ( talk) 02:04, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
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Andrew Martinez is a significant figure in the public nudity movement. His actions influenced college rules and city laws and inspired a generation of activists. The speedy deletion notice was posted within minutes of me starting the article and I do not appreciate that. Dandelion1 05:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Would titling this article Andrew Martinez with a redirect from The Naked Guy be more appropriate and in line with other biographical articles? -- MisterHand 05:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I wrote about Martinez's Death in a blog entry
not sure what is correct protocol for showing it here but i will try
HE DIED FOR YOUR CLOTHES
Today in the Berkeley Planet i read about the death of the naked guy
I was thinking about his death on the way home
& then the age part hit me
he was 33 like JC
hence the title of this entry
I met Andrew at a Cloine Court party before he became "the naked guy" He impressed me as being so very gentle
There is an aspect about some large mesomorphs where they feel relaxed and are not trying to show physical dominance
Andrew showed this quality when I met him at the "mosh pit" at the Cloine court party his demeaner was so relaxed and unintrusive I knew that I did not have to worry about getting hit from his direction He really changed the vibe cuz he was so strong but gentle
i edited it to be less gonzo and more about him
in the above
the entry in full is below
http://9thgp.blogspot.com/2006/05/he-died-for-your-clothes.html fcking2000@yahoo.com Festus Christopher King
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.6.230.243 ( talk • contribs).
At first this sounded like an inspiring story about someone who took a stand, but it kinda sounds like all he managed to do was change his school and city from "technically clothing optional but nobody took advantage" to "nudity being banned now that someone had pushed it". That's quite sad..—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.92.176.7 ( talk • contribs).
If I'm not mistaken, the book in which Naomi Wolf praised the Naked Guy is "Fire With Fire". I don't have a copy anymore, but if someone else does, that's what is needed for a citation.—Preceding unsigned comment added by SDRendino ( talk • contribs)
Removed image as unecessary. my 12 yo daughter hit the random page button to see some guys cock and balls hanging out...a picture of the dudes face would be fine to show who he is.. dont need to see his penis to get the drift of article...wikipedia isnt berkeley...even nudist magazines are sold from BEHIND THE COUNTER.. - 24.61.191.86 ( talk) 23:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
At issue is the interpretation of WP:NOTCENSORED. Above, two readers have expressed appropriateness, even offensiveness, concerns about the image, while an editor has suggested the image is permissible under WP policy, and another editor (filer of this Request for Comments) has challenged this assertion (with regard to this particular article and photo). — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 11:02, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
What would clearly be the best compromise is to use an image that shows him naked but without displaying his genitals. While there is certainly an argument that it is valuable for a wikipedia article on someone who is a nudist to include a nude photograph of him, but i can see no argument that it is more informative if that photograph is very explicit in any way. The existing image used is not a free image anyway and there are multiple other images that would show him naked or nearly naked without explicitly showing hiss genitals and i would suggest replacement with one of those, perhaps this one? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2006/05/21/NAKEDGUY.TMP&o=0 (following WP:NFCI of course) Ajbpearce ( talk) 02:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
which seemed to be the most supported option. Ajbpearce ( talk) 11:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
why does the article say he "developed" mental illness after coming back from europe.. I mean hello... he jogged around the neighborhood naked and even had to get arrested for it.. gee someone miss that writing on the wall? Should the article be more npov.. I mean some would assume a grown man who jogs around the nieghborhood in the nude to be mentally ill.. maybe the article should say..at some point.. he developed a mental illness..as usually you dont just "become" crazy as for all we know he was nuts all along.. no pun intended - 24.61.191.86 ( talk) 23:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The article states he was buried at Agnews Historical Cemetery in Santa Clara. That's highly unlikely. That Cemetery is a historical landmark listed on the U.S. NPS site, [1], and holds only the victims of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake from Agnews State Hospital. It's a tiny plot of land left more or less undisturbed from the time the Hospital was closed and sold to Sun Microsystems and land developers in 1997. The only cite for this is "Grave of Andrew Martinez". Find A Grave. Retrieved 2009-01-03.; that site exists, but FAG is a user-edited site and not a reliable source. In fact, this entry is the only non-1906 death that FAG lists for this cemetery. See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=1984683. I've searched elsewhere, and FAG and Wikipedia (or Wikipedia derivatives) are the only sources that say he's buried in this cemetery. Absent a reliable source, I'm removing this. TJRC ( talk) 17:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The table says '73 and the category says '72 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.205.104 ( talk) 00:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
In the version of the story I have heard about this guy, the Berkley administration only enacted the campus ban on public nudity when female students alleged that the Naked Guy's behavior constituted sexual harassment. Is this true? Do any of the books or articles on the subject mention this aspect of the story? -- 2610:E0:A040:E0F5:BCBB:B636:8869:16D3 ( talk) 02:04, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
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