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I did receive permission to use pieces of Mr. Klavan's website, and it was also re-written and not copied verbatim. Please let me know how to proceed with this.
Timsteeleworks ( talk) 18:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Point taken. And I re-wrote the article, but I then got a second notice. If one compares the source material and what I wrote, it pretty clearly shows that it was written in my own words. If there is a part of the article that looks too close, I'd be happy to re-write it. Please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timsteeleworks ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I am okay with the edits, although I would make mention of the book "True Crime" in the London section, since it was one of two works that were made into motion pictures (this one a Clint Eastwood flick). I also will add references and possibly some expansion to deal with the "peacock terms." Thanks. Timsteeleworks ( talk) 00:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I added some references and fleshed out some content, adding what I thought to be important facts. Can be deleted if necessary. Let me know what needs to be done to remove the concern tags. Timsteeleworks ( talk) 01:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
A reasonable "permission" has been archived on OTRS, ticket 2008032510019548; it doesnt grant GFDL, however I dont see any reason to pursue the matter further as the copyright issue has been already resolved. John Vandenberg ( talk) 05:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I read through WP:CITE and tried to make some changes. Are they correct? Not sure. Timsteeleworks ( talk) 13:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Any more tips on what I can do so that I can eliminate the tags on the top of the page? Timsteeleworks ( talk) 20:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes! I was considering doing that. Thank you! Timsteeleworks ( talk) 19:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Zen87 ( talk) 03:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
"More recently he compared the moral issues associated with the Bush administrations foreign policy to the issues Batman faced in The Dark Knight [1]. Many people have responded to this statement with negative feelings because of far left-ist political views, one of the most recurring arguments is that Bush went on vacation right after declaring war on Iraq and some believe he attempted to keep his actions from the press."
The statement "Many people have responded to this statement with negative feelings because of far left-ist political views" indicates a lack of impartiality in tone. It implies that all negative feelings expressed in regards to the opinion piece come from a "far left-ist" point of view, automatically defining all extant negative view of the piece extant as "far left-ist". Without defining specifically what far left-ist means and showing how all extant negative opinions of the piece display a far left-ist viewpoint, this statement shows a definite bias. The statement "because of far left-ist political views" should be removed from the Biography section of this article.
He has never served in the military.
Why is the above passage relevant? I'm removing it if no one protests with a logical argument. PokeHomsar ( talk) 08:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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Why is the header for the author's list of novels "Auto Biographies"? I am not familiar with the novels so do not feel competent to edit the header, but it does not make sense to someone (like me) coming to the article to learn about the author. Perhaps someone more familiar with the books could refine this? Judd ( talk) 16:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Why is this relevant? It is a one sentence blurb. There are no reactions to it described. There is no reason given why this tweet alone has been chosen as an addition to the article. Judging from the twitter analytics of the post (feel free to run the numbers for yourselves https://socialbearing.com/), there are literally millions of tweets that could be plugged into biographies on the grounds "well, they tweeted it!" (See: Wikipedia:But it's true!). There is a questionable revert history geared towards retaining this section. Consider WP:BARE, WP:Insignificant, WP:CCS, and given the "coincidence" of the tweet being about politics, consider WP:Axe-grinding. If there is no legitimate rationale offered about both the inclusion of this blurb and its revert history, I'm removing it. Scriblerian1 ( talk) 07:54, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
The comment earlier on, "I think that a tweet that advocates genocide is worthy of a mention" is telling: it shouldn't be up to editors to make that kind of decision. Secondary sources should report on something before one of us thinks it's worth mentioning. Primary sourcing is acceptable for verifying basic facts, but primary sources should not be used to verify (and justify) the inclusion of content that is not otherwise considered noteworthy by secondary sources. Drmies ( talk) 00:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Now, your comments about what is and isn't acceptable, and how I am abusing my rights: you have maybe three dozen edits here, so I can forgive you for not knowing what all is and isn't acceptable, but I'll tell you that having an account whose sole purpose is to introduce improperly sourced negative content in a BLP is not acceptable. If you think I am abusing my position, by all means take it to WP:AN or WP:ANI, but be prepared to be criticized as a single-purpose account who doesn't care about the rules. Drmies ( talk) 16:51, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
The linked tweet does not literally say that Klavan is vaccinated against Covid, although that was probably implied. I think a better source would have to be found.
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I did receive permission to use pieces of Mr. Klavan's website, and it was also re-written and not copied verbatim. Please let me know how to proceed with this.
Timsteeleworks ( talk) 18:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Point taken. And I re-wrote the article, but I then got a second notice. If one compares the source material and what I wrote, it pretty clearly shows that it was written in my own words. If there is a part of the article that looks too close, I'd be happy to re-write it. Please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timsteeleworks ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I am okay with the edits, although I would make mention of the book "True Crime" in the London section, since it was one of two works that were made into motion pictures (this one a Clint Eastwood flick). I also will add references and possibly some expansion to deal with the "peacock terms." Thanks. Timsteeleworks ( talk) 00:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I added some references and fleshed out some content, adding what I thought to be important facts. Can be deleted if necessary. Let me know what needs to be done to remove the concern tags. Timsteeleworks ( talk) 01:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
A reasonable "permission" has been archived on OTRS, ticket 2008032510019548; it doesnt grant GFDL, however I dont see any reason to pursue the matter further as the copyright issue has been already resolved. John Vandenberg ( talk) 05:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I read through WP:CITE and tried to make some changes. Are they correct? Not sure. Timsteeleworks ( talk) 13:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Any more tips on what I can do so that I can eliminate the tags on the top of the page? Timsteeleworks ( talk) 20:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes! I was considering doing that. Thank you! Timsteeleworks ( talk) 19:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Zen87 ( talk) 03:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
"More recently he compared the moral issues associated with the Bush administrations foreign policy to the issues Batman faced in The Dark Knight [1]. Many people have responded to this statement with negative feelings because of far left-ist political views, one of the most recurring arguments is that Bush went on vacation right after declaring war on Iraq and some believe he attempted to keep his actions from the press."
The statement "Many people have responded to this statement with negative feelings because of far left-ist political views" indicates a lack of impartiality in tone. It implies that all negative feelings expressed in regards to the opinion piece come from a "far left-ist" point of view, automatically defining all extant negative view of the piece extant as "far left-ist". Without defining specifically what far left-ist means and showing how all extant negative opinions of the piece display a far left-ist viewpoint, this statement shows a definite bias. The statement "because of far left-ist political views" should be removed from the Biography section of this article.
He has never served in the military.
Why is the above passage relevant? I'm removing it if no one protests with a logical argument. PokeHomsar ( talk) 08:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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Why is the header for the author's list of novels "Auto Biographies"? I am not familiar with the novels so do not feel competent to edit the header, but it does not make sense to someone (like me) coming to the article to learn about the author. Perhaps someone more familiar with the books could refine this? Judd ( talk) 16:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Why is this relevant? It is a one sentence blurb. There are no reactions to it described. There is no reason given why this tweet alone has been chosen as an addition to the article. Judging from the twitter analytics of the post (feel free to run the numbers for yourselves https://socialbearing.com/), there are literally millions of tweets that could be plugged into biographies on the grounds "well, they tweeted it!" (See: Wikipedia:But it's true!). There is a questionable revert history geared towards retaining this section. Consider WP:BARE, WP:Insignificant, WP:CCS, and given the "coincidence" of the tweet being about politics, consider WP:Axe-grinding. If there is no legitimate rationale offered about both the inclusion of this blurb and its revert history, I'm removing it. Scriblerian1 ( talk) 07:54, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
The comment earlier on, "I think that a tweet that advocates genocide is worthy of a mention" is telling: it shouldn't be up to editors to make that kind of decision. Secondary sources should report on something before one of us thinks it's worth mentioning. Primary sourcing is acceptable for verifying basic facts, but primary sources should not be used to verify (and justify) the inclusion of content that is not otherwise considered noteworthy by secondary sources. Drmies ( talk) 00:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Now, your comments about what is and isn't acceptable, and how I am abusing my rights: you have maybe three dozen edits here, so I can forgive you for not knowing what all is and isn't acceptable, but I'll tell you that having an account whose sole purpose is to introduce improperly sourced negative content in a BLP is not acceptable. If you think I am abusing my position, by all means take it to WP:AN or WP:ANI, but be prepared to be criticized as a single-purpose account who doesn't care about the rules. Drmies ( talk) 16:51, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
The linked tweet does not literally say that Klavan is vaccinated against Covid, although that was probably implied. I think a better source would have to be found.