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According to a post on Instagram by Andy Lowe, the Film and Television Lighting Gaffer at London’s Pinewood Studios, Star Wars: Andor wrapped filming on Saturday August 21st: https://www.instagram.com/p/CS1nEtyF7BH/?utm_medium=copy_link.
I’m hoping we can use this link as a sign of confirmed proof that Andor is done filming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.162.120 ( talk) 21:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
I know for certain that Elizabeth Dulau plays Kleya and that it is currently wrong so was correcting it and the link I provided proves she is the actress that plays it so I am unsure why it was removed. In the trailer it is clear it is not Adria Arjona who plays Kleya as they look different. Please let me know what I need to do to correct it without it being removed. Oceanfan1 ( talk) 20:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
I personally wouldn’t call people.com reliable or any news outlet for that matter. An actress agency page is more reliable than people.com as they clearly know what their client is in and who they are playing. Who ever wrote that article on people.com has seen the trailer and assumed who is playing the role. I will just wait for the show to come out and it can get changed then. Oceanfan1 ( talk) 10:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Considering what is counted as reliable can this be used to at least update who Arjona is playing to the correct character?
https://collider.com/andor-cast-and-character-guide-star-wars-rogue-one-prequel/ Oceanfan1 ( talk) 23:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Okay I have changed it hopefully I have done it right. Oceanfan1 ( talk) 23:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
I put the description on another line because this was the way it was in other lines in the piece. Pageturners ( talk) 15:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
The wording on this article and similar ones is not right. Phrasing and terms are used which you won't find anywhere else. We aren't writing a dictionary here. Extraordinary2 ( talk) 05:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
The Rotten Tomatoes episode score graph is very misleading. It fails badly because it leaves out a big piece of relevant information, the number of reviewers counted and the huge drop-off in their numbers as the series has progressed. Episode 1 was reviewed by 114 critics, [1] compared to episode 8 which at the time of writing has only been reviewed by 9 critics. [2] (Episode 7, only 15 critics. [3]) The picture is not worth a thousand words. The graph is unsuitable for an encyclopedia, it really shouldn't be included at all it so badly misleading. (See also the book The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by Edward Tufte which explains beautifully how to make better use of graphs.) -- 109.79.175.195 ( talk) 01:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
I've now removed the addition of a 'Season 2' subsection, as there is no guarantee that the show will get a second go, and there is nothing in the way of content to populate the subsection. Until we know more, it should remain out of the article. Thoughts? - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 15:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
I have no problem with the removal of an empty section, but the last paragraph under the "Filming" section appears to be sourced about the second season being filmed. Whether those sources are reliable or not, I haven't checked. Jauerback dude?/ dude. 13:52, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ Kenam William: due to his insistence on wanting to tout the show's alleged achievements, but without the use of any sources. The lead should be a summary of the article ( WP:LEAD), and the existing consensus does not reflect what is mentioned in Critical response. Either find sources to back up these claims, or it is likely they will be removed. Wikibenboy94 ( talk) 12:30, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Just to recap here is a link to the specific diff where Kenam William synthesized all that praise. Kenam added even more praise ( diff before eventually adding sources ( diff) unfortunately without any edit summaries to explain or any discussion why he believes such limited sources support such wide generalizations. In an effort to make the article body support some of the effusive praise in the lead (and to include a review from a critic who had watched more than just the first three episodes) I added the IGN reference to the Critical response section. I think the Critical response section could be significantly improved if it included a few more reviews of the whole of season 1. -- 109.79.164.67 ( talk) 16:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Since the articles of https://en.wikipedia.org/ (currently) lack of See also section, i put those links here:
Visite fortuitement prolongée ( talk) 10:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
MOS:ALSO
A "See also" section is a useful way to organize internal links to related or comparable articles and build the web. However, the section itself is not required; many high-quality and comprehensive articles do not have one.
[bold emphasis added]
There is no need for this article to have a See also section. Unfortunately such sections frequently get filled with links where editors see perceive some connection but the relevance is not made clear to readers. If Gilroy mentioned those works as influences then perhaps they would be worth mentioning, but even then that would be better explained as part of the Production section. The reference to The New Republic is a review of the show, and rather than put it in a See also section it would be better be used as a reference in the critical response section or perhaps if someone was to write a section analyzing the themes explored in the series but again I do no think it would serve readers to merely drop it as a link in a See also section. If it isn't clear why a link should be in a See also section then it probably should not be there at all. -- 109.79.164.67 ( talk) 16:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
re the accolades section: the primetime emmy creative arts awards are just a subset of the primetime emmy awards; is it simply convention to separate the two when listing awards? Murkssand ( talk) 05:42, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
So I know both only appear in a limited amount of episodes, but they receive a singular credit like other members of the main cast. Whittaker also receives the and credit, so I was wondering if they should both be included? InfiniteInjustice ( talk) 07:49, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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According to a post on Instagram by Andy Lowe, the Film and Television Lighting Gaffer at London’s Pinewood Studios, Star Wars: Andor wrapped filming on Saturday August 21st: https://www.instagram.com/p/CS1nEtyF7BH/?utm_medium=copy_link.
I’m hoping we can use this link as a sign of confirmed proof that Andor is done filming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.162.120 ( talk) 21:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
I know for certain that Elizabeth Dulau plays Kleya and that it is currently wrong so was correcting it and the link I provided proves she is the actress that plays it so I am unsure why it was removed. In the trailer it is clear it is not Adria Arjona who plays Kleya as they look different. Please let me know what I need to do to correct it without it being removed. Oceanfan1 ( talk) 20:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
I personally wouldn’t call people.com reliable or any news outlet for that matter. An actress agency page is more reliable than people.com as they clearly know what their client is in and who they are playing. Who ever wrote that article on people.com has seen the trailer and assumed who is playing the role. I will just wait for the show to come out and it can get changed then. Oceanfan1 ( talk) 10:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Considering what is counted as reliable can this be used to at least update who Arjona is playing to the correct character?
https://collider.com/andor-cast-and-character-guide-star-wars-rogue-one-prequel/ Oceanfan1 ( talk) 23:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Okay I have changed it hopefully I have done it right. Oceanfan1 ( talk) 23:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
I put the description on another line because this was the way it was in other lines in the piece. Pageturners ( talk) 15:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
The wording on this article and similar ones is not right. Phrasing and terms are used which you won't find anywhere else. We aren't writing a dictionary here. Extraordinary2 ( talk) 05:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
The Rotten Tomatoes episode score graph is very misleading. It fails badly because it leaves out a big piece of relevant information, the number of reviewers counted and the huge drop-off in their numbers as the series has progressed. Episode 1 was reviewed by 114 critics, [1] compared to episode 8 which at the time of writing has only been reviewed by 9 critics. [2] (Episode 7, only 15 critics. [3]) The picture is not worth a thousand words. The graph is unsuitable for an encyclopedia, it really shouldn't be included at all it so badly misleading. (See also the book The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by Edward Tufte which explains beautifully how to make better use of graphs.) -- 109.79.175.195 ( talk) 01:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
I've now removed the addition of a 'Season 2' subsection, as there is no guarantee that the show will get a second go, and there is nothing in the way of content to populate the subsection. Until we know more, it should remain out of the article. Thoughts? - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 15:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
I have no problem with the removal of an empty section, but the last paragraph under the "Filming" section appears to be sourced about the second season being filmed. Whether those sources are reliable or not, I haven't checked. Jauerback dude?/ dude. 13:52, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ Kenam William: due to his insistence on wanting to tout the show's alleged achievements, but without the use of any sources. The lead should be a summary of the article ( WP:LEAD), and the existing consensus does not reflect what is mentioned in Critical response. Either find sources to back up these claims, or it is likely they will be removed. Wikibenboy94 ( talk) 12:30, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Just to recap here is a link to the specific diff where Kenam William synthesized all that praise. Kenam added even more praise ( diff before eventually adding sources ( diff) unfortunately without any edit summaries to explain or any discussion why he believes such limited sources support such wide generalizations. In an effort to make the article body support some of the effusive praise in the lead (and to include a review from a critic who had watched more than just the first three episodes) I added the IGN reference to the Critical response section. I think the Critical response section could be significantly improved if it included a few more reviews of the whole of season 1. -- 109.79.164.67 ( talk) 16:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Since the articles of https://en.wikipedia.org/ (currently) lack of See also section, i put those links here:
Visite fortuitement prolongée ( talk) 10:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
MOS:ALSO
A "See also" section is a useful way to organize internal links to related or comparable articles and build the web. However, the section itself is not required; many high-quality and comprehensive articles do not have one.
[bold emphasis added]
There is no need for this article to have a See also section. Unfortunately such sections frequently get filled with links where editors see perceive some connection but the relevance is not made clear to readers. If Gilroy mentioned those works as influences then perhaps they would be worth mentioning, but even then that would be better explained as part of the Production section. The reference to The New Republic is a review of the show, and rather than put it in a See also section it would be better be used as a reference in the critical response section or perhaps if someone was to write a section analyzing the themes explored in the series but again I do no think it would serve readers to merely drop it as a link in a See also section. If it isn't clear why a link should be in a See also section then it probably should not be there at all. -- 109.79.164.67 ( talk) 16:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
re the accolades section: the primetime emmy creative arts awards are just a subset of the primetime emmy awards; is it simply convention to separate the two when listing awards? Murkssand ( talk) 05:42, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
So I know both only appear in a limited amount of episodes, but they receive a singular credit like other members of the main cast. Whittaker also receives the and credit, so I was wondering if they should both be included? InfiniteInjustice ( talk) 07:49, 21 August 2023 (UTC)