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What is this article about? An Eastern European joke? Soviet propaganda? Political terminology? A logical fallacy? It seems to fail Wikipedia's standards on coherence, notability, original research, and neutrality.
Let's look at the sources: 1. Lucas: mentions discrimination against blacks, but doesn't seem to mention lynching. 2. Interview: mentions a similar phrase as propaganda. 3. Economist: mentions a similar phrase as a joke. 4. Russian: I couldn't find the Russian phrase in this, but maybe I missed it. 5. Artwork depicting lynching. 6. Artwork about the Scottsboro Boys, which was not a case of lynching. 7. Reference to this artwork. 8. Reference to the two artworks. 9. Another reference. 10. A Russian poem that uses a similar phrase. 11. SideWise: a blog from 2011 which uses the phrase (probably referring to this page). 12. A Russian version of the joke. 13. Logical fallacies: appears to be about the fallacy, not the phrase. 14. Swedish lecture slides that use the phrase. 15-18 Uses of the phrase in other languages... A online search brings up blogs etc that seem to be essentially mirror sites of this one.
Yes, it appears true there is a joke along these lines. It is clear that Soviet propaganda did refer to lynching. It appears that people have cited the joke (or the propaganda) in discussions of politics or logic. But I don't think the article hangs together.
And, by the way, the archiving of this page seems hyperactive. Can we stop the bot?-- Jack Upland ( talk) 03:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Here is the description of my changes, from edit summaries:
Please prove that I am wrong. - üser:Altenmann >t 16:26, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed. That's why I removed the unsourced text just as Altenmann did. Please don't restore it until we have a citation for it. clpo13( talk) 23:45, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
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What is this article about? An Eastern European joke? Soviet propaganda? Political terminology? A logical fallacy? It seems to fail Wikipedia's standards on coherence, notability, original research, and neutrality.
Let's look at the sources: 1. Lucas: mentions discrimination against blacks, but doesn't seem to mention lynching. 2. Interview: mentions a similar phrase as propaganda. 3. Economist: mentions a similar phrase as a joke. 4. Russian: I couldn't find the Russian phrase in this, but maybe I missed it. 5. Artwork depicting lynching. 6. Artwork about the Scottsboro Boys, which was not a case of lynching. 7. Reference to this artwork. 8. Reference to the two artworks. 9. Another reference. 10. A Russian poem that uses a similar phrase. 11. SideWise: a blog from 2011 which uses the phrase (probably referring to this page). 12. A Russian version of the joke. 13. Logical fallacies: appears to be about the fallacy, not the phrase. 14. Swedish lecture slides that use the phrase. 15-18 Uses of the phrase in other languages... A online search brings up blogs etc that seem to be essentially mirror sites of this one.
Yes, it appears true there is a joke along these lines. It is clear that Soviet propaganda did refer to lynching. It appears that people have cited the joke (or the propaganda) in discussions of politics or logic. But I don't think the article hangs together.
And, by the way, the archiving of this page seems hyperactive. Can we stop the bot?-- Jack Upland ( talk) 03:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Here is the description of my changes, from edit summaries:
Please prove that I am wrong. - üser:Altenmann >t 16:26, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed. That's why I removed the unsourced text just as Altenmann did. Please don't restore it until we have a citation for it. clpo13( talk) 23:45, 24 January 2016 (UTC)