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Is this article abt music or writing...I think there should not be so much abt when and where writing evolved. Musical evolution has been largely independent of musical notation.
Hi. How does the following contradict itself?
Thanks. Hyacinth 06:36, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I thought you might have responded here. Do you like to keep conversation "threads" in one place? If this is so, or otherwise, would you mind if we moved this conversation to Talk:Ancient music?
I do not see how my version (above) would imply that ancient music may be contemporary.
I don't see how this can even be implied, its ancient.
I attempted to alleviate the sentence by moving the statement, "Ancient music is monophonic," out of a long convoluted sentence. I do not think that this is even accurate as polyphony certainly existed before Ancient music and it seems strange that an era would include only certain textures (though they usually only include certain regions and classes). Do you have a source?
If it was accurate before, how is it inaccurate in my version? Hyacinth 03:31, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
User:Eleassar777, please explain that the cultures at those locations at those early dates where literate in the article (A reader would need go to Ur, "Iraq" to find out that is was Mesopotamia). Also add some version of this information to Music of Mesopotamia. Hyacinth 22:16, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The first examples of (structured linear) writing have been found in the lower Danube Valley and date from around 5000 BC. The first examples of Sumerian writing in Mesopotamia date from around 4000 BC. So if when writing develops, the music is not prehistoric anymore, how can it be that the ancient music is the one that occurs only after 1500 BC? -- Eleassar777 22:44, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Where can I hear what the earliest sound ever written down or preserved sounded like?-- Sonjaaa 06:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hello! I added a section on "ancient music origins" that I think could lend more general knowledge to the category of "ancient music." I took a look at the prehistoric music article and I liked how it contains sections on "Origins of prehistoric instruments" and "Archaeoacoustic methodology" before it begins separating out the different regions of the world and the respective contributions to prehistoric music. This ancient music origins section might go more in-depth over the idea of "characterizations of basic notes and scales" seen in the lead along with touching more on the idea of written musical notation and transmission (as opposed to oral music transmission) which seems to be the mark of the shift from prehistoric to ancient. I also believe that this will offer a means to expand upon the lead a little more. I have started the section, but would appreciate assistance in crafting it either through credible additions or through reliable sources that could be useful. Thanks! Zport20 ( talk) 16:22, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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Is this article abt music or writing...I think there should not be so much abt when and where writing evolved. Musical evolution has been largely independent of musical notation.
Hi. How does the following contradict itself?
Thanks. Hyacinth 06:36, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I thought you might have responded here. Do you like to keep conversation "threads" in one place? If this is so, or otherwise, would you mind if we moved this conversation to Talk:Ancient music?
I do not see how my version (above) would imply that ancient music may be contemporary.
I don't see how this can even be implied, its ancient.
I attempted to alleviate the sentence by moving the statement, "Ancient music is monophonic," out of a long convoluted sentence. I do not think that this is even accurate as polyphony certainly existed before Ancient music and it seems strange that an era would include only certain textures (though they usually only include certain regions and classes). Do you have a source?
If it was accurate before, how is it inaccurate in my version? Hyacinth 03:31, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
User:Eleassar777, please explain that the cultures at those locations at those early dates where literate in the article (A reader would need go to Ur, "Iraq" to find out that is was Mesopotamia). Also add some version of this information to Music of Mesopotamia. Hyacinth 22:16, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The first examples of (structured linear) writing have been found in the lower Danube Valley and date from around 5000 BC. The first examples of Sumerian writing in Mesopotamia date from around 4000 BC. So if when writing develops, the music is not prehistoric anymore, how can it be that the ancient music is the one that occurs only after 1500 BC? -- Eleassar777 22:44, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Where can I hear what the earliest sound ever written down or preserved sounded like?-- Sonjaaa 06:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hello! I added a section on "ancient music origins" that I think could lend more general knowledge to the category of "ancient music." I took a look at the prehistoric music article and I liked how it contains sections on "Origins of prehistoric instruments" and "Archaeoacoustic methodology" before it begins separating out the different regions of the world and the respective contributions to prehistoric music. This ancient music origins section might go more in-depth over the idea of "characterizations of basic notes and scales" seen in the lead along with touching more on the idea of written musical notation and transmission (as opposed to oral music transmission) which seems to be the mark of the shift from prehistoric to ancient. I also believe that this will offer a means to expand upon the lead a little more. I have started the section, but would appreciate assistance in crafting it either through credible additions or through reliable sources that could be useful. Thanks! Zport20 ( talk) 16:22, 4 March 2020 (UTC)