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See Talk:Mile. The common name is clearly mille passus (preferred by Caesar & Cicero as well as English), with mille passuum (Livy) a distant second. There were 3 "sources" for mille passuum, but none were scholarly treatments of units. Instead, they were simply popular accounts repeating what they saw in places like Wikipedia. — LlywelynII 02:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
and ancient metrology is dependent upon verifying and contrasting literary sources with field work. Even if Smith has held up over time, we should still source the estimated values to more up-to-date scholarship alongside him. — LlywelynII 22:23, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I suggest we change the WP:Era used on this article to CE/BCE from the Christian based Anno Domini system since this is an article on Roman subject matter. The change was made previously, and could easily be simply reverted back, but seeking consensus here first. TY — Moops ⋠ T⋡ 14:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
It seems to be far less used on wikipedia than CE/BCsurprises me. Every article linked from this one about a Roman person, war or building uses BC/AD, so far as I can tell by hovering over the links. MOS:ERA is a truce which saves us from attempts by people who feel strongly (see WT:MOSNUM#Article titles for years: BC/AD or BCE/CE for recent examples of those strong feelings) to obliterate the other usage. Can you say, as MOS:ERA puts it, what
reasons specific to its contentyou have for changing the style of this article? NebY ( talk) 18:18, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Is there a reason the unit "grano" (pl. "grana") isn't included in the "Subdivisions of the uncia" table? In several sources on this topic, grana are said to have weighed 1/4 of 1 siliqua SteGenevieve ( talk) 18:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
For a very long time (literally hundreds of years) the historians seemed to agree that the contemporary sources clearly declared two different units of length, pes monetalis and pes drusianus, corresponding to the two primary standards that were kept in different places within the empire. Somehow our article does not mention this, and the newer high-quality sources are mum on the subject. It is pretty easy to add text, based for example, on Duncan-Jones, R. P. (1980). "Length-Units in Roman Town Planning: The Pes Monetalis and the Pes Drusianus". Britannia. 11: 127. doi: 10.2307/525675., but should I? Our article based on reasonably recent sources declares a single pes value accurate to three digits (296 mm). Is it another case of Britannica oversimplifying or did the consensus indeed change? Викидим ( talk) 07:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Looking at the article, the only differences between the wet and dry measure tables is the presence or absence of the semimodius, modius, modius castrensis, culeus, urna, and amphora quadrantal; why are there two charts if there is no difference between a wet or dry hemina or sextarius? Why not denote all the units on one chart and mark if a unit was only used for fluids or dry measures with footnotes. I know US customary has different wet and dry units, but we could just have a separate US dry column on a single combined table. Self-described Sophist ( talk) 20:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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See Talk:Mile. The common name is clearly mille passus (preferred by Caesar & Cicero as well as English), with mille passuum (Livy) a distant second. There were 3 "sources" for mille passuum, but none were scholarly treatments of units. Instead, they were simply popular accounts repeating what they saw in places like Wikipedia. — LlywelynII 02:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
and ancient metrology is dependent upon verifying and contrasting literary sources with field work. Even if Smith has held up over time, we should still source the estimated values to more up-to-date scholarship alongside him. — LlywelynII 22:23, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I suggest we change the WP:Era used on this article to CE/BCE from the Christian based Anno Domini system since this is an article on Roman subject matter. The change was made previously, and could easily be simply reverted back, but seeking consensus here first. TY — Moops ⋠ T⋡ 14:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
It seems to be far less used on wikipedia than CE/BCsurprises me. Every article linked from this one about a Roman person, war or building uses BC/AD, so far as I can tell by hovering over the links. MOS:ERA is a truce which saves us from attempts by people who feel strongly (see WT:MOSNUM#Article titles for years: BC/AD or BCE/CE for recent examples of those strong feelings) to obliterate the other usage. Can you say, as MOS:ERA puts it, what
reasons specific to its contentyou have for changing the style of this article? NebY ( talk) 18:18, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Is there a reason the unit "grano" (pl. "grana") isn't included in the "Subdivisions of the uncia" table? In several sources on this topic, grana are said to have weighed 1/4 of 1 siliqua SteGenevieve ( talk) 18:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
For a very long time (literally hundreds of years) the historians seemed to agree that the contemporary sources clearly declared two different units of length, pes monetalis and pes drusianus, corresponding to the two primary standards that were kept in different places within the empire. Somehow our article does not mention this, and the newer high-quality sources are mum on the subject. It is pretty easy to add text, based for example, on Duncan-Jones, R. P. (1980). "Length-Units in Roman Town Planning: The Pes Monetalis and the Pes Drusianus". Britannia. 11: 127. doi: 10.2307/525675., but should I? Our article based on reasonably recent sources declares a single pes value accurate to three digits (296 mm). Is it another case of Britannica oversimplifying or did the consensus indeed change? Викидим ( talk) 07:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Looking at the article, the only differences between the wet and dry measure tables is the presence or absence of the semimodius, modius, modius castrensis, culeus, urna, and amphora quadrantal; why are there two charts if there is no difference between a wet or dry hemina or sextarius? Why not denote all the units on one chart and mark if a unit was only used for fluids or dry measures with footnotes. I know US customary has different wet and dry units, but we could just have a separate US dry column on a single combined table. Self-described Sophist ( talk) 20:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)