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This article is one of my least favourite Wikipedia articles. I think it is really problematic. In general, Wikipedia does not like "and" articles, and they are almost by definition WP:SYN. It would be far better if the article focused on e.g. Orthodox Jewish anarchism or anarchist Orthodox Judaism. The problematicness of the article is apparent in the "Criticism" section, which now contains several paragraphs on Jewish usury and Jewish support for the Israeli state, which really have nothing to do with the article but could be legitimately claimed as "criticisms" of libertarian interpretations of Judaism. Any thoughts?
The writer of this article has a bias toward being anti-semitic although his knowledge of the Jews is good. Many of his passages have nothing to do with Anarchism, but they are included in a manner which suggests that they are anarchistic. This is a deliberate misuse of his knowledge. Generally the Jewish religion supports the government where-ever the Jew may live. When two countries are at war, the Jews in each are expected to join their respective armies and fight on their different sides. This is not a anarchial attitude--its the opposite. Macrocompassion ( talk) 13:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
I agree this is a highly problematic article that does feel like original research, interpreting sources to suit the author's biases. I am not sure what we can do about it, but it is quite misleading. Maybe move it to "Jewish anarchists" and de-emphasize the "Orthodox" aspect, which is really a modern term that would not apply to most of the people described in the article anyway. It is certainly a stretch to call Abarbenel an anarchist, even weird. I am not qualified to re-write this article, and call on someone else to do it. DaringDonna ( talk) 18:37, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Buber was never shomer mitzvot/Orthodox, to my knowledge. Please review and correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.78.178.51 ( talk) 11:38, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
I added a couple of links and removed the tags complaining about "undue weight" and "additional citations". This article is way shorter than "Christian anarchism", although most Christians are, most likely, not aware of such a phenomenon. Anarchist interpretations of other world religions deserve their own detailed articles.
As Dr. Hayyim Rothman (I am not him) shows in his recent scholarly book "No masters but God: Portraits of anarcho-Judaism", anarchist ideas were indeed significant in 20th century Judaism, represented by such notable people as the famous kabbalist Rabbi Yehuda Ashlag and the territorialist Isaac Steinberg. Instead of complaining about citations in general, please add suggestions in particular places where they might be needed, one by one.
Other complaints ("original research" etc.) also don't sound fair, but I am not going to remove them until I (or other editors, please) find a sufficient number of additional non-primary sources. And please explain point by point, how is this article more "essay-like" than the ones on Christian anarchism or Christian communism? Unfortunately, articles focusing on intersections between world religions/cultures and radical politics may sound like essays due to the specific - but historically, politically and socially important - nature of the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laplandian ( talk • contribs) 04:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
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This article is one of my least favourite Wikipedia articles. I think it is really problematic. In general, Wikipedia does not like "and" articles, and they are almost by definition WP:SYN. It would be far better if the article focused on e.g. Orthodox Jewish anarchism or anarchist Orthodox Judaism. The problematicness of the article is apparent in the "Criticism" section, which now contains several paragraphs on Jewish usury and Jewish support for the Israeli state, which really have nothing to do with the article but could be legitimately claimed as "criticisms" of libertarian interpretations of Judaism. Any thoughts?
The writer of this article has a bias toward being anti-semitic although his knowledge of the Jews is good. Many of his passages have nothing to do with Anarchism, but they are included in a manner which suggests that they are anarchistic. This is a deliberate misuse of his knowledge. Generally the Jewish religion supports the government where-ever the Jew may live. When two countries are at war, the Jews in each are expected to join their respective armies and fight on their different sides. This is not a anarchial attitude--its the opposite. Macrocompassion ( talk) 13:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
I agree this is a highly problematic article that does feel like original research, interpreting sources to suit the author's biases. I am not sure what we can do about it, but it is quite misleading. Maybe move it to "Jewish anarchists" and de-emphasize the "Orthodox" aspect, which is really a modern term that would not apply to most of the people described in the article anyway. It is certainly a stretch to call Abarbenel an anarchist, even weird. I am not qualified to re-write this article, and call on someone else to do it. DaringDonna ( talk) 18:37, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Buber was never shomer mitzvot/Orthodox, to my knowledge. Please review and correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.78.178.51 ( talk) 11:38, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
I added a couple of links and removed the tags complaining about "undue weight" and "additional citations". This article is way shorter than "Christian anarchism", although most Christians are, most likely, not aware of such a phenomenon. Anarchist interpretations of other world religions deserve their own detailed articles.
As Dr. Hayyim Rothman (I am not him) shows in his recent scholarly book "No masters but God: Portraits of anarcho-Judaism", anarchist ideas were indeed significant in 20th century Judaism, represented by such notable people as the famous kabbalist Rabbi Yehuda Ashlag and the territorialist Isaac Steinberg. Instead of complaining about citations in general, please add suggestions in particular places where they might be needed, one by one.
Other complaints ("original research" etc.) also don't sound fair, but I am not going to remove them until I (or other editors, please) find a sufficient number of additional non-primary sources. And please explain point by point, how is this article more "essay-like" than the ones on Christian anarchism or Christian communism? Unfortunately, articles focusing on intersections between world religions/cultures and radical politics may sound like essays due to the specific - but historically, politically and socially important - nature of the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laplandian ( talk • contribs) 04:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)