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It looks like de Armas has dual citizenship with Spain and Cuba. She was born in Cuba and started her career there, so arguably the best way to describe her in the lede is simply as "a Cuban actress". However, she is a dual citizen, and also worked early in her acting career in Spain. Thus, arguably, the lede (and {{ Short description}}) could/should say "is a Cuban and Spanish actress".
What the lede absolutely should not say is either "Spanish-Cuban actress", or "Cuban actress of Spanish descent", as per MOS:ETHNICITY.
The only options here are "Cuban actress" and "Cuban and Spanish actress". So editors need to come to a consensus on this. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 03:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. [emphasis mine] Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability."Spanish-Cuban actress" is an ethnicity. The second sentence is what is relevant in this case – nationalities not ethnicities are relevant here. Therefore, the correct construction is "Cuban and Spanish actress", not "Spanish-Cuban actress". -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 04:20, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Based on the above discussion, most comments seem OK with "Cuban and Spanish actress". There should be enough reasoning to support reversing the inevitable replacement of the " and " dual nationality description with the "-" ethnicity tag. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 03:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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Relative to the rest of the article, the section on personal life could include more detail besides her dating life. Given that de Armas has likely been in several interviews and talk shows, extra information about her could be added to the article. It would also provide an opportunity to quote her directly. KyleSWong ( talk) 03:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Just announced on the April 15, 2023 episode of Saturday Night Live: de Armas will receive U.S. citizenship c. May 1, 2023. 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 03:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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It looks like de Armas has dual citizenship with Spain and Cuba. She was born in Cuba and started her career there, so arguably the best way to describe her in the lede is simply as "a Cuban actress". However, she is a dual citizen, and also worked early in her acting career in Spain. Thus, arguably, the lede (and {{ Short description}}) could/should say "is a Cuban and Spanish actress".
What the lede absolutely should not say is either "Spanish-Cuban actress", or "Cuban actress of Spanish descent", as per MOS:ETHNICITY.
The only options here are "Cuban actress" and "Cuban and Spanish actress". So editors need to come to a consensus on this. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 03:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. [emphasis mine] Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability."Spanish-Cuban actress" is an ethnicity. The second sentence is what is relevant in this case – nationalities not ethnicities are relevant here. Therefore, the correct construction is "Cuban and Spanish actress", not "Spanish-Cuban actress". -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 04:20, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Based on the above discussion, most comments seem OK with "Cuban and Spanish actress". There should be enough reasoning to support reversing the inevitable replacement of the " and " dual nationality description with the "-" ethnicity tag. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 03:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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Relative to the rest of the article, the section on personal life could include more detail besides her dating life. Given that de Armas has likely been in several interviews and talk shows, extra information about her could be added to the article. It would also provide an opportunity to quote her directly. KyleSWong ( talk) 03:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Just announced on the April 15, 2023 episode of Saturday Night Live: de Armas will receive U.S. citizenship c. May 1, 2023. 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 03:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)