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Here's the video link: [1] Rklawton ( talk) 16:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I think this should be added to the current article: "Amy has a past of alcohol and drug abuse, and it seems to surface up again. In fact, here she is caught on video by a fan attenting concert sniffing something on stage: http://www.koreus.com/video/amy-winehouse-coke.html " Sad but true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.56.236.89 ( talk) 11:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I have deleted tour manager claim. Several articles put this claim in doubt [2] Sue Wallace ( talk) 12:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an opinion piece by a Belfast Telegraph show business journalist advising the singer what she should do to save herself and her career. It discusses her abilities and what she means to the UK music scene [3] Edkollin ( talk) 18:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
uh, amy winehouse sings 1960's pop, girl group, and pure doowop, not just r&b, jazz, and soul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybiggestfan123 ( talk • contribs) 02:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The tabloids as we have talked about do put a negative spin on things to sell their newspapers. The publicists job is to put a positive spin on things to sell her music. This publicist has not been a reliable source IE she was hospitalized for "exhaustion". There are disputed claims as to what treatment the singer is receiving. Wikipedia editors need to deal with disputed claims all the time. The Times of London is an extremely well regarded paper and thus a reliable source. The editors at that paper felt that not only that the drug treatment claim should be mentioned but that it should be in the headline. Edkollin ( talk) 08:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Seems I'm beating a dead horse (or really a live horse that has just been beat a lot), but please use reliable sources, and fewer tabloids. I am not in the UK, and (1) I don't readily recognize the tabloids in this article and (2) it seems the tabloid system works differently (eg - there are tabloids that run daily, hence seeming more credible?) but for those editors on that side of the Atlantic, please be more scrupulous in deciding which are credible sources. For editors in North America, the same goes for us. Also, while her drugs, drink and antics have almost consumed her literally and figuratively, once that fact is reasonably established (which I believe it has been) then every single incident doesn't need to be chronicled in detail—only the especially noteworthy ones. While the bigger offenders probably won't even read this, for those editors trying to improve this article, please keep these matters in mind.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 15:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
...needs massive work. It is a hodgepodge of semi important facts, kind of randomly thrown together, and needs trimming, copyediting and better prose. I have been gradually trying to improve the article in general over the last couple days, but that section very nearly makes me want to give up (at least for today :) ) Anyway, I welcome any sanity brought to that section. Maybe the section needs a new name to reflect what it is actually about: International success, or maybe "Ascension to stardom" or even "2006 to the present".--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 22:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
okay back to black got in at number seven in amercia which makes it bein the second highest in the billboard album charts buy a british female solo artist (behind joss stone)should people put that in look it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.206.205 ( talk) 01:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
http://dzrbenson.com/blog/?p=169 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.116.90 ( talk) 10:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I've added one to the "Controversy" section since, regrettably, it now looks like there may be a lot more material to add to it in the future. I put both the copyright infringement and pot bust in there - although the former might be more smoothly integrated elsewhere. Ribonucleic ( talk) 20:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I added two blurbes based on the singers fathers comments from a Sky News report. The father said that the arrest had been in the planning stages for three weeks and that the singer is "perfectly fine with talking to the police". The addition was deleted by an editor who said the remarks are not notable. I put the remarks in because I felt it added context to the story. There has been speculation that the singer was intentionally trying to avoid the police. If a person is guilty and trying to avoid the police she would not be fine with talking with them. The father is a person with firsthand knowledge. I feel it is best to put the information out there let the reader decide reliable information or spin. It is the same as what we do when we put her spokespersons remarks in the article Edkollin ( talk) 17:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The former opening sentence has been removed twice, suggesting some editors disagree with it:
"As Winehouse's personal demons have become less manageable, her public image has been a dichotomy of admiration for her talent and disturbance at her personal turmoil."
However, no one has replaced it. The section needs a thesis statement. I don't mind taking a stab at it, but prose-wise, the section can't just start with no introductory sentence. This is far from the only prose issue with the article, but one that seems to be a little more controversial. The sentence essentially needs to state that Winehouse has a paradoxical public image of runaway commercial success and critical acclaim while at the same time drawing dirision for virtual career self-sabotage. Fortunately, the information there is already abundantly referenced, an into sentence is just needed.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 17:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
"The singer's (and her husband's) struggles with self-harm, as well as drug and alcohol addictions became regular tabloid news in 2007" Struggles with self harm? This is not what Amy has been regular tabloid news for. It is the fact she is a heroine addict, cocaine addict and even does it on stage. Adding that she is a drug addict AFTER the self harm meerely makes it seem she is mostly known as a self harmer. The fact she self harms is debatable...this rumour came about as a fact she has been seen wearing plasters etc and covered in blood.
Amy is a drug addict...this is what has made her such a major tabloid star, despite the fact she is well known for her music! NOT a self harmer. Dont try and brush over the fact she is a druggie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.192.11 ( talk) 22:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Does Amy play the guitar? The "English female guitarists" category is included in the page, but the only mention made to guitar in the whole article is the sentence, "After toying with her brother's guitar, she received her first guitar when she was thirteen". Funk Junkie ( talk) 23:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I looked in the References section and noticed that Amy's MySpace page isn't included [she's one of my friends on MySpace]. If someone could add it [as I won't mess with the article at all, 'cuz that's how they get locked], it would be nice. Thanks.
( Wikieuphoria ( talk) 06:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC))
Reports are surfacing that police do not have evidence to convict her of with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice [10]. I think the cite did not meet wikipedia standards to put in the article now but if this is confirmed while leaving in her husbands information I would shorten the rest of the paragraph to say something like "After a thorough investigation Winehouse was cleared of involvement in the alleged plot to pervert the course of justice". The details of the police investigation would then be a moot point. Edkollin ( talk) 06:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to the major recent vandalism the article only users should be allowed to edit this article for a the next few weeks Edkollin ( talk) 04:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
What's with the following:
Amy Jade Winehouse (14 September 1983 - (5 February 2008) was an English soul, jazz, and R&B singer and songwriter.
I suggest the person who decided to lock this page sort it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanshothebaliff ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Who put this article into the category "2008 deaths" - and why?
here's the external link of her via sattelite performance http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=c8786997-fa83-4ab4-8f77-2c1d59a919bf
and her acceptance speach for 'Record of the Year'
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=a1084e54-401a-4dc0-bc2f-6a9d42d73c96 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.220.2 ( talk) 22:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Researching for a social studies course and I searched Wikipedia for 'crack whore'. It automatically redirected me here. I know Amy's been having problems lately but surely she's not the definition of a crack whore. I don't know how to fix redirects so can someone please revert the redirect changes. 217.200.200.53 ( talk) 23:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
She's not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 ( talk) 17:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The ending now reads " some have questioned whether she should have been honored with the awards". The 'some', in terms of exact quotations from people of note, is *one*, - Natalie Cole , and the other quotation is from an incredibly obscure campus/local newspaper. There's no problem with keeping Cole's objection, but a) the current phrasing implies the objections from 'some' could have been on quality grounds, and b) there's some POV pushing going on.
Lr676t ( talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
as per the usual standard, London should be highlighted in the passage "Amy Winehouse was born in the Southgate area of Enfield, London .." Ray54 ( talk) 18:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
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Here's the video link: [1] Rklawton ( talk) 16:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I think this should be added to the current article: "Amy has a past of alcohol and drug abuse, and it seems to surface up again. In fact, here she is caught on video by a fan attenting concert sniffing something on stage: http://www.koreus.com/video/amy-winehouse-coke.html " Sad but true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.56.236.89 ( talk) 11:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I have deleted tour manager claim. Several articles put this claim in doubt [2] Sue Wallace ( talk) 12:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an opinion piece by a Belfast Telegraph show business journalist advising the singer what she should do to save herself and her career. It discusses her abilities and what she means to the UK music scene [3] Edkollin ( talk) 18:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
uh, amy winehouse sings 1960's pop, girl group, and pure doowop, not just r&b, jazz, and soul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybiggestfan123 ( talk • contribs) 02:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The tabloids as we have talked about do put a negative spin on things to sell their newspapers. The publicists job is to put a positive spin on things to sell her music. This publicist has not been a reliable source IE she was hospitalized for "exhaustion". There are disputed claims as to what treatment the singer is receiving. Wikipedia editors need to deal with disputed claims all the time. The Times of London is an extremely well regarded paper and thus a reliable source. The editors at that paper felt that not only that the drug treatment claim should be mentioned but that it should be in the headline. Edkollin ( talk) 08:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Seems I'm beating a dead horse (or really a live horse that has just been beat a lot), but please use reliable sources, and fewer tabloids. I am not in the UK, and (1) I don't readily recognize the tabloids in this article and (2) it seems the tabloid system works differently (eg - there are tabloids that run daily, hence seeming more credible?) but for those editors on that side of the Atlantic, please be more scrupulous in deciding which are credible sources. For editors in North America, the same goes for us. Also, while her drugs, drink and antics have almost consumed her literally and figuratively, once that fact is reasonably established (which I believe it has been) then every single incident doesn't need to be chronicled in detail—only the especially noteworthy ones. While the bigger offenders probably won't even read this, for those editors trying to improve this article, please keep these matters in mind.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 15:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
...needs massive work. It is a hodgepodge of semi important facts, kind of randomly thrown together, and needs trimming, copyediting and better prose. I have been gradually trying to improve the article in general over the last couple days, but that section very nearly makes me want to give up (at least for today :) ) Anyway, I welcome any sanity brought to that section. Maybe the section needs a new name to reflect what it is actually about: International success, or maybe "Ascension to stardom" or even "2006 to the present".--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 22:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
okay back to black got in at number seven in amercia which makes it bein the second highest in the billboard album charts buy a british female solo artist (behind joss stone)should people put that in look it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.206.205 ( talk) 01:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
http://dzrbenson.com/blog/?p=169 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.116.90 ( talk) 10:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I've added one to the "Controversy" section since, regrettably, it now looks like there may be a lot more material to add to it in the future. I put both the copyright infringement and pot bust in there - although the former might be more smoothly integrated elsewhere. Ribonucleic ( talk) 20:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I added two blurbes based on the singers fathers comments from a Sky News report. The father said that the arrest had been in the planning stages for three weeks and that the singer is "perfectly fine with talking to the police". The addition was deleted by an editor who said the remarks are not notable. I put the remarks in because I felt it added context to the story. There has been speculation that the singer was intentionally trying to avoid the police. If a person is guilty and trying to avoid the police she would not be fine with talking with them. The father is a person with firsthand knowledge. I feel it is best to put the information out there let the reader decide reliable information or spin. It is the same as what we do when we put her spokespersons remarks in the article Edkollin ( talk) 17:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The former opening sentence has been removed twice, suggesting some editors disagree with it:
"As Winehouse's personal demons have become less manageable, her public image has been a dichotomy of admiration for her talent and disturbance at her personal turmoil."
However, no one has replaced it. The section needs a thesis statement. I don't mind taking a stab at it, but prose-wise, the section can't just start with no introductory sentence. This is far from the only prose issue with the article, but one that seems to be a little more controversial. The sentence essentially needs to state that Winehouse has a paradoxical public image of runaway commercial success and critical acclaim while at the same time drawing dirision for virtual career self-sabotage. Fortunately, the information there is already abundantly referenced, an into sentence is just needed.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 17:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
"The singer's (and her husband's) struggles with self-harm, as well as drug and alcohol addictions became regular tabloid news in 2007" Struggles with self harm? This is not what Amy has been regular tabloid news for. It is the fact she is a heroine addict, cocaine addict and even does it on stage. Adding that she is a drug addict AFTER the self harm meerely makes it seem she is mostly known as a self harmer. The fact she self harms is debatable...this rumour came about as a fact she has been seen wearing plasters etc and covered in blood.
Amy is a drug addict...this is what has made her such a major tabloid star, despite the fact she is well known for her music! NOT a self harmer. Dont try and brush over the fact she is a druggie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.192.11 ( talk) 22:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Does Amy play the guitar? The "English female guitarists" category is included in the page, but the only mention made to guitar in the whole article is the sentence, "After toying with her brother's guitar, she received her first guitar when she was thirteen". Funk Junkie ( talk) 23:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I looked in the References section and noticed that Amy's MySpace page isn't included [she's one of my friends on MySpace]. If someone could add it [as I won't mess with the article at all, 'cuz that's how they get locked], it would be nice. Thanks.
( Wikieuphoria ( talk) 06:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC))
Reports are surfacing that police do not have evidence to convict her of with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice [10]. I think the cite did not meet wikipedia standards to put in the article now but if this is confirmed while leaving in her husbands information I would shorten the rest of the paragraph to say something like "After a thorough investigation Winehouse was cleared of involvement in the alleged plot to pervert the course of justice". The details of the police investigation would then be a moot point. Edkollin ( talk) 06:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to the major recent vandalism the article only users should be allowed to edit this article for a the next few weeks Edkollin ( talk) 04:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
What's with the following:
Amy Jade Winehouse (14 September 1983 - (5 February 2008) was an English soul, jazz, and R&B singer and songwriter.
I suggest the person who decided to lock this page sort it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanshothebaliff ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Who put this article into the category "2008 deaths" - and why?
here's the external link of her via sattelite performance http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=c8786997-fa83-4ab4-8f77-2c1d59a919bf
and her acceptance speach for 'Record of the Year'
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=a1084e54-401a-4dc0-bc2f-6a9d42d73c96 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.220.2 ( talk) 22:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Researching for a social studies course and I searched Wikipedia for 'crack whore'. It automatically redirected me here. I know Amy's been having problems lately but surely she's not the definition of a crack whore. I don't know how to fix redirects so can someone please revert the redirect changes. 217.200.200.53 ( talk) 23:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
She's not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 ( talk) 17:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The ending now reads " some have questioned whether she should have been honored with the awards". The 'some', in terms of exact quotations from people of note, is *one*, - Natalie Cole , and the other quotation is from an incredibly obscure campus/local newspaper. There's no problem with keeping Cole's objection, but a) the current phrasing implies the objections from 'some' could have been on quality grounds, and b) there's some POV pushing going on.
Lr676t ( talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
as per the usual standard, London should be highlighted in the passage "Amy Winehouse was born in the Southgate area of Enfield, London .." Ray54 ( talk) 18:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)