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There seems to be a major cancer across wikipedia with editors drinking the kool-aid and describing Amory as a physicist. Yet even here in the article it spells out rather cloakingly of course, but nonetheless, between the lines you see that "he is a college drop-out", that simply publishes advocacy pamphlets for hire, pamphlets which no actual physicist takes seriously.
I'm too busy right now to deal with this disturbing dogma-guru-man and their influence but at the least, you need to start describing Lovin's as something based in fact, such as an energy advocate. Or something like that. As even the moniker "analyst" would be too much, as for example, someone who advocates for lobotomies as a cure-all are nowadays not called a medicine analyst, now are they? When no one in the scientific literature continues with that "cure-all", now do they?
So what is Lovin's but akin to the other hugely popular homeopathy selling "Dr." mercola? [Who isn't a doctor either, who would have thought?]
By the way, this isn't me calling him this, it is actually but reputable secondary sources which describe him as a "college drop-out" etc.
Checking the archive here on this talk page, shows that this "he's a physicist" issue is not new. Yet, what do you know 9 years later and it's still an issue. With fans of theirs pushing fake "dr"/"physicist" labels.
I mean "soft energy"...wtf does that even mean? Other than the common guru-phenomenon of inventing a False-dichotomy? Is it that you'd have to be Soft-in-the-head to believe such a thing exists. What next? Fluffy-energy? Cuddle-some-energy? Boundarylayer ( talk) 19:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/01/22/mr-green Environmentalism’s optimistic guru Amory Lovins by Elizabeth Kolbert. I don’t do problems” is how Lovins once put it to me. “I do solutions.” Lovins makes his living as the C.E.O. of [XYZ energy advocacy company, and hey look it's located in guitarist, John Denver's old haunt, yo how 'rad' man]...it now employs more than fifty people Employing fifty people to promote your brand of clearly nonsensical 'soft-energy', would fairly obviously mean, there is something of a major conflict of interest when say actual accredited scientists or agencies come along, as they routinely do and publish things that as a 'guru', would know, could upset the apple-cart of their business? Does it not? Something that is a little concerning. Life as, the fossil fuel funded, 'soft-energy' guru
Though no mention to his source of income in the seventies, work for an organization set up by an oil tycoon and beginning of Lovins as the anti-nuclear spokesman, shall be made in this article? |
This debacle just sucks. One thing comes to mind when mentioned waking up Sunday morning hearing the crews putting in a bike lane. If street parking was so important, how did they manage to stripe bike lanes with cars parked there? Was there even one single car parked there that day? Sounds like not. People just want their damned “just in case” parking spot. You never know how much parking you’ll need! What if I have a big party with all my multi-generational extended family and friends? Looking forward to the supposed middle ground solution that is somehow in the middle between the bare minimum (pained lines) and nothing. As Watts (I think) suggested, maybe speed bumps. Speed bumps and sharrows I bet. Or maybe just painted speed bumps. 173.164.116.25 ( talk) 03:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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There seems to be a major cancer across wikipedia with editors drinking the kool-aid and describing Amory as a physicist. Yet even here in the article it spells out rather cloakingly of course, but nonetheless, between the lines you see that "he is a college drop-out", that simply publishes advocacy pamphlets for hire, pamphlets which no actual physicist takes seriously.
I'm too busy right now to deal with this disturbing dogma-guru-man and their influence but at the least, you need to start describing Lovin's as something based in fact, such as an energy advocate. Or something like that. As even the moniker "analyst" would be too much, as for example, someone who advocates for lobotomies as a cure-all are nowadays not called a medicine analyst, now are they? When no one in the scientific literature continues with that "cure-all", now do they?
So what is Lovin's but akin to the other hugely popular homeopathy selling "Dr." mercola? [Who isn't a doctor either, who would have thought?]
By the way, this isn't me calling him this, it is actually but reputable secondary sources which describe him as a "college drop-out" etc.
Checking the archive here on this talk page, shows that this "he's a physicist" issue is not new. Yet, what do you know 9 years later and it's still an issue. With fans of theirs pushing fake "dr"/"physicist" labels.
I mean "soft energy"...wtf does that even mean? Other than the common guru-phenomenon of inventing a False-dichotomy? Is it that you'd have to be Soft-in-the-head to believe such a thing exists. What next? Fluffy-energy? Cuddle-some-energy? Boundarylayer ( talk) 19:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/01/22/mr-green Environmentalism’s optimistic guru Amory Lovins by Elizabeth Kolbert. I don’t do problems” is how Lovins once put it to me. “I do solutions.” Lovins makes his living as the C.E.O. of [XYZ energy advocacy company, and hey look it's located in guitarist, John Denver's old haunt, yo how 'rad' man]...it now employs more than fifty people Employing fifty people to promote your brand of clearly nonsensical 'soft-energy', would fairly obviously mean, there is something of a major conflict of interest when say actual accredited scientists or agencies come along, as they routinely do and publish things that as a 'guru', would know, could upset the apple-cart of their business? Does it not? Something that is a little concerning. Life as, the fossil fuel funded, 'soft-energy' guru
Though no mention to his source of income in the seventies, work for an organization set up by an oil tycoon and beginning of Lovins as the anti-nuclear spokesman, shall be made in this article? |
This debacle just sucks. One thing comes to mind when mentioned waking up Sunday morning hearing the crews putting in a bike lane. If street parking was so important, how did they manage to stripe bike lanes with cars parked there? Was there even one single car parked there that day? Sounds like not. People just want their damned “just in case” parking spot. You never know how much parking you’ll need! What if I have a big party with all my multi-generational extended family and friends? Looking forward to the supposed middle ground solution that is somehow in the middle between the bare minimum (pained lines) and nothing. As Watts (I think) suggested, maybe speed bumps. Speed bumps and sharrows I bet. Or maybe just painted speed bumps. 173.164.116.25 ( talk) 03:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)