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I've removed some of the Citation Needed tags from the article. How is anyone supposed to find a source for the influence of the Mafia in American cities? They'd be killed if they did. Pongley ( talk) 14:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Since "American Mafia" has never been a name used to describe the mob in the U.S. (only used to describe here on Wikipedia), can I recommend that it be redirected to something like Mafia (North American organization)? I don't know what should be in parentheses, but it is more accurate to just call the article Mafia with something in parentheses, since that's the name most likely used to describe both the U.S. Mafia and the Sicilian Mafia. Thank you. 71.194.114.35 ( talk) 05:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
"In 1986, according to government reports[citation needed], it was estimated that there were 500 members of Cosa Nostra and thousands of associate members." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.210.122 ( talk) 23:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
500 members of Cosa Nostra? The Genovese or Gambino families already have 200-300 members. The number will rather be 4000-5000 members of Cosa Nostra in the United States. There are definitely more than 500 members of Cosa Nostra in New York alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.210.122 ( talk) 23:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
American Mafia would be an appropiate title for the article when you consider that not only was "La Costra Nostra" composed of Italians but other figures as well; who play a vital role in the current structure we have today. In particular "Meyer Lansky", respecfully a Jew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.251.114 ( talk) 21:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
what's the deal with drug running not being allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.44.253 ( talk) 18:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION>>>> Drugs were not allowed because it was a very risky business, too risky most felt. If you saw the Godfather part 1, they discuss this. It was just like that...very simple...too much heat. In the late 60's early 70's Carmine Galante (columbos) was big into heroin. Check out the 'pizza connection'. ZIPS had a lot to do with it. VIVA ITALIA...FORZA!!!!!!!!!!! PER TUTTO —Preceding
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Are you taking heroin yourself, sinebot? Because it's pretty much accepted by anyone with any knowledge that the American Mafia have been heavily involved in heroin smuggling for decades now. It is discussed in The godfather part 1, but since that's a work of fiction, and since there were few - if any - reservations about drugs from the real-life gangsters of the time (50s and 60s), we can't use it as a reference point, can we? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.199.96 ( talk) 05:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Drugs as a public image, do you really know the LCN for drugs? NO! More traditional crime, extortion/protection rackets, gambling, union rackets e.t.c .. Imagin also their kids on smack and coke they keep it out of their own neighborhoods beleive me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.3.25 ( talk) 22:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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I suggest the merging the article The Mafia during Prohibition into this article's Prohibition era section. -- Vic49 ( talk) 21:58, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Can someone explain what the National Crime Syndicate was and it's history? I'm a little confused about what it is. Was it what the Mafia called it or a press created name? Was the American Mafia part of it?
My understanding was it was the unification of the organized crime families throughout the U.S., it was mainly made up of the Jewish organized families and the Italian organized crime families, it's enforcement arm was Murder, Inc., and the ruling body was the Commission, which included jewish and italian gangsters.
Was the National Crime Syndicate the predecessor to the Italian American Mafia we know today? Is the National Crime Syndicate defunct? and if it's defunct, does only the Italian American Mafia and Commission exist? Does the Commission today only comprise of the Italian American Mafia and italian gangsters?
Was the Italian American Mafia we know today part of it?
and Mainly, should the sentence in the American Mafia article "The press also coined the name "National Crime Syndicate" to refer to the entire network of U.S. organized crime, which included the Jewish-American organized crime elements and the Italian-American Mafia." be changed?
I'm asking a lot, but I don't know about this organization and if the Italian Mafia was part of it.
If someone can answer, it'd be much appreciated. Thank You. PeaceShield5 ( talk) 17:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Mistake while trying to remove broken links and tabloid sources FactsOnlyRule ( talk) 11:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone think this article should be renamed 'Italian American Mafia' or 'Italian-American Mafia' and then make this article a redirect to that name? If so, we should do this with a 'legal' article MOVE request and not cut/paste work, which loses editing history. Thanks Hmains ( talk) 02:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
If this page gonna remain "American Mafia" over "Italian-American mafia", why no paragraph on Irish-American Mob, Russian-American Mobsers and Polish-American Mobsers. ( contribs) 21:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by G-rad ( talk • contribs)
I agree, it should be renamed Italian American Mafia. Also I believe something should be done to somehow merge this page and the Sicilian Mafia page since they are pretty much the same entity/organization, the only differences are pretty much where they operate but they're essentially the same thing, just one is here in America and one is in Sicily. The TM11 ( talk) 08:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 17:35, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
American Mafia →
Italian American Mafia – No one else refers to it as the American Mafia, it is known as the Italian Mafia or Italian American Mafia
The TM11 (
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18:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
The text says the following: "Emigration from southern Italy to the Americas was primarily to Brazil and Argentina, and New Orleans had a heavy volume of port traffic to and from both locales." This is not entirely correct. Italian emigration to Brazil was quite important indeed. Many Brazilians as well as many Argentines are of Italian ancestry. However in most cases the origin of that emigration was the north end of Italy, mostly the region of Venice, rather than the south. Southern Italians emigrated mostly to New York, while Northern Italians moved mostly to São Paulo. Also, most of the Italian emigration to South America happened in the end of the 19thcentury / beginning of the 20th century continuing through WW1. The Veneto region was heavily fustigated by the war with Austria-Hungary during WW1. The reason of the mass flee of people to South America was also to flee the war.
Why does the article keep naming Italy and Sicily as if they were different entities? Sicily IS a part of Italy. It’s like saying “the United States and Florida”. Idonthavetimeforthiscarp ( talk) 14:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
for example "blood line needs to come from Italy or Sicily." It's like saying "blood line needs to come from the United States or Louisiana". is it really necessary? Idonthavetimeforthiscarp ( talk) 14:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
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I've removed some of the Citation Needed tags from the article. How is anyone supposed to find a source for the influence of the Mafia in American cities? They'd be killed if they did. Pongley ( talk) 14:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Since "American Mafia" has never been a name used to describe the mob in the U.S. (only used to describe here on Wikipedia), can I recommend that it be redirected to something like Mafia (North American organization)? I don't know what should be in parentheses, but it is more accurate to just call the article Mafia with something in parentheses, since that's the name most likely used to describe both the U.S. Mafia and the Sicilian Mafia. Thank you. 71.194.114.35 ( talk) 05:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
"In 1986, according to government reports[citation needed], it was estimated that there were 500 members of Cosa Nostra and thousands of associate members." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.210.122 ( talk) 23:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
500 members of Cosa Nostra? The Genovese or Gambino families already have 200-300 members. The number will rather be 4000-5000 members of Cosa Nostra in the United States. There are definitely more than 500 members of Cosa Nostra in New York alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.210.122 ( talk) 23:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
American Mafia would be an appropiate title for the article when you consider that not only was "La Costra Nostra" composed of Italians but other figures as well; who play a vital role in the current structure we have today. In particular "Meyer Lansky", respecfully a Jew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.251.114 ( talk) 21:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
what's the deal with drug running not being allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.44.253 ( talk) 18:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION>>>> Drugs were not allowed because it was a very risky business, too risky most felt. If you saw the Godfather part 1, they discuss this. It was just like that...very simple...too much heat. In the late 60's early 70's Carmine Galante (columbos) was big into heroin. Check out the 'pizza connection'. ZIPS had a lot to do with it. VIVA ITALIA...FORZA!!!!!!!!!!! PER TUTTO —Preceding
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04:13, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Are you taking heroin yourself, sinebot? Because it's pretty much accepted by anyone with any knowledge that the American Mafia have been heavily involved in heroin smuggling for decades now. It is discussed in The godfather part 1, but since that's a work of fiction, and since there were few - if any - reservations about drugs from the real-life gangsters of the time (50s and 60s), we can't use it as a reference point, can we? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.199.96 ( talk) 05:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Drugs as a public image, do you really know the LCN for drugs? NO! More traditional crime, extortion/protection rackets, gambling, union rackets e.t.c .. Imagin also their kids on smack and coke they keep it out of their own neighborhoods beleive me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.3.25 ( talk) 22:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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I suggest the merging the article The Mafia during Prohibition into this article's Prohibition era section. -- Vic49 ( talk) 21:58, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Can someone explain what the National Crime Syndicate was and it's history? I'm a little confused about what it is. Was it what the Mafia called it or a press created name? Was the American Mafia part of it?
My understanding was it was the unification of the organized crime families throughout the U.S., it was mainly made up of the Jewish organized families and the Italian organized crime families, it's enforcement arm was Murder, Inc., and the ruling body was the Commission, which included jewish and italian gangsters.
Was the National Crime Syndicate the predecessor to the Italian American Mafia we know today? Is the National Crime Syndicate defunct? and if it's defunct, does only the Italian American Mafia and Commission exist? Does the Commission today only comprise of the Italian American Mafia and italian gangsters?
Was the Italian American Mafia we know today part of it?
and Mainly, should the sentence in the American Mafia article "The press also coined the name "National Crime Syndicate" to refer to the entire network of U.S. organized crime, which included the Jewish-American organized crime elements and the Italian-American Mafia." be changed?
I'm asking a lot, but I don't know about this organization and if the Italian Mafia was part of it.
If someone can answer, it'd be much appreciated. Thank You. PeaceShield5 ( talk) 17:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Mistake while trying to remove broken links and tabloid sources FactsOnlyRule ( talk) 11:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone think this article should be renamed 'Italian American Mafia' or 'Italian-American Mafia' and then make this article a redirect to that name? If so, we should do this with a 'legal' article MOVE request and not cut/paste work, which loses editing history. Thanks Hmains ( talk) 02:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
If this page gonna remain "American Mafia" over "Italian-American mafia", why no paragraph on Irish-American Mob, Russian-American Mobsers and Polish-American Mobsers. ( contribs) 21:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by G-rad ( talk • contribs)
I agree, it should be renamed Italian American Mafia. Also I believe something should be done to somehow merge this page and the Sicilian Mafia page since they are pretty much the same entity/organization, the only differences are pretty much where they operate but they're essentially the same thing, just one is here in America and one is in Sicily. The TM11 ( talk) 08:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 17:35, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
American Mafia →
Italian American Mafia – No one else refers to it as the American Mafia, it is known as the Italian Mafia or Italian American Mafia
The TM11 (
talk) 08:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC) --Relisted.
George Ho (
talk)
18:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
The text says the following: "Emigration from southern Italy to the Americas was primarily to Brazil and Argentina, and New Orleans had a heavy volume of port traffic to and from both locales." This is not entirely correct. Italian emigration to Brazil was quite important indeed. Many Brazilians as well as many Argentines are of Italian ancestry. However in most cases the origin of that emigration was the north end of Italy, mostly the region of Venice, rather than the south. Southern Italians emigrated mostly to New York, while Northern Italians moved mostly to São Paulo. Also, most of the Italian emigration to South America happened in the end of the 19thcentury / beginning of the 20th century continuing through WW1. The Veneto region was heavily fustigated by the war with Austria-Hungary during WW1. The reason of the mass flee of people to South America was also to flee the war.
Why does the article keep naming Italy and Sicily as if they were different entities? Sicily IS a part of Italy. It’s like saying “the United States and Florida”. Idonthavetimeforthiscarp ( talk) 14:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
for example "blood line needs to come from Italy or Sicily." It's like saying "blood line needs to come from the United States or Louisiana". is it really necessary? Idonthavetimeforthiscarp ( talk) 14:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
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