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This vinyl EP was released this year as part of Record Store Day to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the studio album. Should this not be included on the album track listing as it contains 8 remixes of songs from the album? We have a 35th Anniversary streaming version of True Blue on that pages track listing and also the 30th Anniversary of Like A Prayer on its page. -- jwad.... blah | blah | blah 09:36, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
"Die Another Day" was officially recorded for inclusion on BOTH the OST of the movie, AND "American Life". Madonna stated herself when the single was first released that it would definitely be on her new album. It's a very different situation to "American Pie", which was only included on the international version of "Music". "Live To Tell" was specifically recorded for "At Close Range", but then was chosen to be the lead single from "True Blue" (even though the album wasn't released until months later). How can a massive hit single that appears on all versions of an album not be considered a single from that album? Is there a law or regulation that specifies that a single can only be attributed to one particular album? Actually, no, there isn't, because "Kids" is listed as the second single from Robbie Williams' "Sing When You're Winning" and the third from Kylie Minogue's "Light Years". Given this, why can't "Die Another Day" be listed as an official single from "American Life"? It's certainly not merely an "album track". 121.223.126.136 ( talk) 16:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Someone has been editiing this page with very bad grammar and english. Can this all be reverted please. Thanks JWAD Communicate|Nicely 16:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
How can this album be the tenth studio album while the entry for Confessions on the Dance Floor is also stated to be her tenth studio album?
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This page documents the trick that Madonna played on music downloaders. Won't it also be a good idea to document the retaliation that happened when someone cracked the www.madonna.com web server, and uploaded the entire album in MP3? As shown here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/madonnasplash1.html Scollk 03:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
who in their right mind could say this entry is not biased? The language used and lack of references are shocking! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.223.226.6 ( talk) 16:52, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
There are two deadlinks in which I cannot find archived versions from web.archive.org:
– MuZemike 23:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I took out the Patty Hearst SLA image because of the lack of a fair use rationale, and the lack of a reference here which would have been required for the rationale. However, there are bits and pieces of Patty Hearst references around the web, mostly iffy internet and pop culture sources. Here are some of the best ones, in reverse chron order:
If one or more of these references are judged as suitable, something about Patty Hearst can be returned to the article. Binksternet ( talk) 22:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm objecting to referring to the album as a folk album. I understand that Slant is a highly reputable source, but I think we are giving it undue weight as there isn't any other press mentioned in the article referring to it as a folk album. As it's a fairly recent album from a huge star, there should be further options that describe the album's folk tendencies. I think when the author Sal writes it's in the folk tradition, he's referring to an influence. Other authors have also brought this up. The Chicago Tribune described American Life's "folk-rock earnestness" [1] Allmusic described it as "between singer/songwriterisms and skimming of current club culture." [2]. Folk is not mentioned in other articles at all from The Guardian, Billboard compares two songs to Cat Stevens and Joni Mitchel but that hardly puts the entire album in the category. NME goes on about the electronic basis of the music rather than any folk style. Spin described it as "faux-folkie". Slant seems to be the only one that really stressed the pure folk music tendency of the album while other describe hybrids of electronic music or how it's not purely "true" folk. I think for these reasons, it should be removed unless more sources can be dug up. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 12:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I have to revert your change for these sources:
It doesn't matter how many sources call it folk album, it fulfils WP:V whether you agree or not. Bluesatellite ( talk) 10:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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Guardian just posted a new review of American Life, i think it should be inlcuded in the main page. https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/sep/26/my-daft-punk-review-hasnt-aged-so-well-guardian-critics-on-getting-it-wrong?CMP=soc_567 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny Gnecco ( talk • contribs) 00:01, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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This vinyl EP was released this year as part of Record Store Day to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the studio album. Should this not be included on the album track listing as it contains 8 remixes of songs from the album? We have a 35th Anniversary streaming version of True Blue on that pages track listing and also the 30th Anniversary of Like A Prayer on its page. -- jwad.... blah | blah | blah 09:36, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
"Die Another Day" was officially recorded for inclusion on BOTH the OST of the movie, AND "American Life". Madonna stated herself when the single was first released that it would definitely be on her new album. It's a very different situation to "American Pie", which was only included on the international version of "Music". "Live To Tell" was specifically recorded for "At Close Range", but then was chosen to be the lead single from "True Blue" (even though the album wasn't released until months later). How can a massive hit single that appears on all versions of an album not be considered a single from that album? Is there a law or regulation that specifies that a single can only be attributed to one particular album? Actually, no, there isn't, because "Kids" is listed as the second single from Robbie Williams' "Sing When You're Winning" and the third from Kylie Minogue's "Light Years". Given this, why can't "Die Another Day" be listed as an official single from "American Life"? It's certainly not merely an "album track". 121.223.126.136 ( talk) 16:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Someone has been editiing this page with very bad grammar and english. Can this all be reverted please. Thanks JWAD Communicate|Nicely 16:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
How can this album be the tenth studio album while the entry for Confessions on the Dance Floor is also stated to be her tenth studio album?
--
This page documents the trick that Madonna played on music downloaders. Won't it also be a good idea to document the retaliation that happened when someone cracked the www.madonna.com web server, and uploaded the entire album in MP3? As shown here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/madonnasplash1.html Scollk 03:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
who in their right mind could say this entry is not biased? The language used and lack of references are shocking! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.223.226.6 ( talk) 16:52, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
There are two deadlinks in which I cannot find archived versions from web.archive.org:
– MuZemike 23:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I took out the Patty Hearst SLA image because of the lack of a fair use rationale, and the lack of a reference here which would have been required for the rationale. However, there are bits and pieces of Patty Hearst references around the web, mostly iffy internet and pop culture sources. Here are some of the best ones, in reverse chron order:
If one or more of these references are judged as suitable, something about Patty Hearst can be returned to the article. Binksternet ( talk) 22:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm objecting to referring to the album as a folk album. I understand that Slant is a highly reputable source, but I think we are giving it undue weight as there isn't any other press mentioned in the article referring to it as a folk album. As it's a fairly recent album from a huge star, there should be further options that describe the album's folk tendencies. I think when the author Sal writes it's in the folk tradition, he's referring to an influence. Other authors have also brought this up. The Chicago Tribune described American Life's "folk-rock earnestness" [1] Allmusic described it as "between singer/songwriterisms and skimming of current club culture." [2]. Folk is not mentioned in other articles at all from The Guardian, Billboard compares two songs to Cat Stevens and Joni Mitchel but that hardly puts the entire album in the category. NME goes on about the electronic basis of the music rather than any folk style. Spin described it as "faux-folkie". Slant seems to be the only one that really stressed the pure folk music tendency of the album while other describe hybrids of electronic music or how it's not purely "true" folk. I think for these reasons, it should be removed unless more sources can be dug up. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 12:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I have to revert your change for these sources:
It doesn't matter how many sources call it folk album, it fulfils WP:V whether you agree or not. Bluesatellite ( talk) 10:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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Guardian just posted a new review of American Life, i think it should be inlcuded in the main page. https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/sep/26/my-daft-punk-review-hasnt-aged-so-well-guardian-critics-on-getting-it-wrong?CMP=soc_567 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny Gnecco ( talk • contribs) 00:01, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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