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There is a significant amount of criticism targeting the American Legion, not least of which being their overtly conservative political views not pertaining to the military. Many would say this is inappropriate for a congressionally chartered organization like the American Legion. There should at least be some mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wils4581 ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
But, FDR, like Tarbell, and most Legionnaires, were democrats. For a contemporary look at the Legion’s image in popular culture in the Thirties, see the Warner Bros. 1939/40 flick, “Confessions of a Nazi Spy”. There is a dramatisation of a real incident at a meeting of the fascist German-American Bund. Some Legionnaires are disturbed by the Bund’s plan to streamline the US government by getting rid of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and one shouts “We don’t want any isms in this country except Americanism!”. Bundists try to beat them up, S.A.-style; another shouts “You guys are worse than gangsters!”. Some discussion of this incident would improve the article (I think the vets involved were Jewish). Smedley Butler and his supposed exposure of a Fascist plot are for another place. But where on earth did you get that information about Mussolini addressing Legion posts in the USA?? His son, Vittorio did visit in 1937, but don’t know of any interest in the Legion. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:D149:6219:5F19:2E4B ( talk) 22:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
‘Left leaning’ is a polite way of putting it. They weren’t interested in Norman Thomas or Bob La Follette, you know. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:D149:6219:5F19:2E4B ( talk) 22:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
The article's section about the Centralia Massacre is flagrantly biased to the IWW's side, ignoring evidence contrary to what it says that can be found in Wikipedia's page on the Centralia Massacre itself. The author used a single, very biased source ("The Centralia Tragedy of 1919") to cite his section. I have added a POV dispute tag to the section.
How about a link to the Legion’s own account? All their magazines are available on their website, from issue one; quite a resource.
The article you are looking for is “Unwept, Unhonored, and Unhung”. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:D149:6219:5F19:2E4B ( talk) 22:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Besides the above there is Post 01 in London, and Post 01 in Paris, each with its own webpage. Does each jurisdiction have its own numbering system, or what? Some clarity needed. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:C9A3:49FB:A4AE:D68D ( talk) 21:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
What the heck happened here, https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=American_Legion&diff=910429207&oldid=910416562 this removed all historical context from the article under the guise of "clean up". Including the centralia massacre. Seems really biased. 97.83.133.136 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:40, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
What on earth does this mean? No explanation in the article. 2A00:23C7:E287:1900:E15F:41AB:CF33:BC27 ( talk) 01:21, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
I saw the comment in the lead saying "don't change without prior consensus" so I'm proposing it here: to a non-American reader the lead is a disorganised jumble of statements of fact. I propose reordering it to three paragraphs on purpose, history, and activity as follows:
The American Legion, commonly known as the Legion, is a nonprofit organization of U.S. war veterans headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana. Its primary political activity is lobbying on behalf of interests of veterans and service members, including support for benefits such as pensions and the Veterans Health Administration, [1] and is active in issue-oriented U.S. politics.
The organization was formed on March 15, 1919, in Paris, France, by a thousand officers and men of the American Expeditionary Forces (A. E. F.), [2] and it was chartered on September 16, 1919, by the United States Congress. [3] The Legion played the leading role in the drafting and passing of the Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, commonly known as the " G.I. Bill".
The American Legion is made up of state, U.S. territory, and overseas departments, and these are in turn made up of local posts. In addition to organizing commemorative events, members provide assistance at Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) hospitals and clinics. It has also historically promoted Americanism, individual obligation to the community, state, and nation; peace and good will. [4]
-- Deryck C. 08:43, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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I will be updating the Commander for Florida from Clarence E. Hill, Florida, 2009–2010 Also, I would like to start a Florida Legion page and a section on this page for links to state pages possibly. I'm just throwing this out now for a talking point.
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No mention of the Centralia Massacre, no mention of the Business Plot, no mention of the rampant fascism, violence, and intimidation. Was this written by the American legion? Joke of an article. GonzoTribune ( talk) 18:50, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
According to the Legion's website, "The American Legion" was adopted as the organization's official name. [1] The website uses the name "The American Legion", with all three words capitalized, throughout (with "the Legion" as a short alternative). I therefore propose to change the first sentence to, "The American Legion, commonly known as the Legion, is a non-profit organization of U.S. war veterans." -- Lambiam 16:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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There is a significant amount of criticism targeting the American Legion, not least of which being their overtly conservative political views not pertaining to the military. Many would say this is inappropriate for a congressionally chartered organization like the American Legion. There should at least be some mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wils4581 ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
But, FDR, like Tarbell, and most Legionnaires, were democrats. For a contemporary look at the Legion’s image in popular culture in the Thirties, see the Warner Bros. 1939/40 flick, “Confessions of a Nazi Spy”. There is a dramatisation of a real incident at a meeting of the fascist German-American Bund. Some Legionnaires are disturbed by the Bund’s plan to streamline the US government by getting rid of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and one shouts “We don’t want any isms in this country except Americanism!”. Bundists try to beat them up, S.A.-style; another shouts “You guys are worse than gangsters!”. Some discussion of this incident would improve the article (I think the vets involved were Jewish). Smedley Butler and his supposed exposure of a Fascist plot are for another place. But where on earth did you get that information about Mussolini addressing Legion posts in the USA?? His son, Vittorio did visit in 1937, but don’t know of any interest in the Legion. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:D149:6219:5F19:2E4B ( talk) 22:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
‘Left leaning’ is a polite way of putting it. They weren’t interested in Norman Thomas or Bob La Follette, you know. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:D149:6219:5F19:2E4B ( talk) 22:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
The article's section about the Centralia Massacre is flagrantly biased to the IWW's side, ignoring evidence contrary to what it says that can be found in Wikipedia's page on the Centralia Massacre itself. The author used a single, very biased source ("The Centralia Tragedy of 1919") to cite his section. I have added a POV dispute tag to the section.
How about a link to the Legion’s own account? All their magazines are available on their website, from issue one; quite a resource.
The article you are looking for is “Unwept, Unhonored, and Unhung”. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:D149:6219:5F19:2E4B ( talk) 22:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Besides the above there is Post 01 in London, and Post 01 in Paris, each with its own webpage. Does each jurisdiction have its own numbering system, or what? Some clarity needed. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:C9A3:49FB:A4AE:D68D ( talk) 21:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
What the heck happened here, https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=American_Legion&diff=910429207&oldid=910416562 this removed all historical context from the article under the guise of "clean up". Including the centralia massacre. Seems really biased. 97.83.133.136 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:40, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
What on earth does this mean? No explanation in the article. 2A00:23C7:E287:1900:E15F:41AB:CF33:BC27 ( talk) 01:21, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
I saw the comment in the lead saying "don't change without prior consensus" so I'm proposing it here: to a non-American reader the lead is a disorganised jumble of statements of fact. I propose reordering it to three paragraphs on purpose, history, and activity as follows:
The American Legion, commonly known as the Legion, is a nonprofit organization of U.S. war veterans headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana. Its primary political activity is lobbying on behalf of interests of veterans and service members, including support for benefits such as pensions and the Veterans Health Administration, [1] and is active in issue-oriented U.S. politics.
The organization was formed on March 15, 1919, in Paris, France, by a thousand officers and men of the American Expeditionary Forces (A. E. F.), [2] and it was chartered on September 16, 1919, by the United States Congress. [3] The Legion played the leading role in the drafting and passing of the Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, commonly known as the " G.I. Bill".
The American Legion is made up of state, U.S. territory, and overseas departments, and these are in turn made up of local posts. In addition to organizing commemorative events, members provide assistance at Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) hospitals and clinics. It has also historically promoted Americanism, individual obligation to the community, state, and nation; peace and good will. [4]
-- Deryck C. 08:43, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
References
I will be updating the Commander for Florida from Clarence E. Hill, Florida, 2009–2010 Also, I would like to start a Florida Legion page and a section on this page for links to state pages possibly. I'm just throwing this out now for a talking point.
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 22:07, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
No mention of the Centralia Massacre, no mention of the Business Plot, no mention of the rampant fascism, violence, and intimidation. Was this written by the American legion? Joke of an article. GonzoTribune ( talk) 18:50, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
According to the Legion's website, "The American Legion" was adopted as the organization's official name. [1] The website uses the name "The American Legion", with all three words capitalized, throughout (with "the Legion" as a short alternative). I therefore propose to change the first sentence to, "The American Legion, commonly known as the Legion, is a non-profit organization of U.S. war veterans." -- Lambiam 16:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)