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Well.. the contestants who didn't make the top 3 in their semi final groups were eliminated. The judges didn't tell them they were in the wildcard untill the 3rd semi final group results show... So they were originally eliminated. Frazzler9 ( talk) 17:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
3 | Danny Gokey | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
4 | Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6-7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | Top 13 | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12-13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | Top 13 | ||||||||||||||
Wild Card |
Ricky Braddy | Elim | Elim | |||||||||||||
Tatiana Del Toro | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Jesse Langseth | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Von Smith | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 3 |
Arianna Afsar | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Felicia Barton | ||||||||||||||||
Kendall Beard | ||||||||||||||||
Ju'Not Joyner | ||||||||||||||||
Nathaniel Marshall | ||||||||||||||||
Kristen McNamara | ||||||||||||||||
Taylor Vaifanua | ||||||||||||||||
Alex Wagner-Trugman | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 2 |
Matt Breitzke | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Mishavonna Henson | ||||||||||||||||
Kai Kalama | ||||||||||||||||
Nick Mitchell | ||||||||||||||||
Jeanine Vailes | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 1 |
Ann Marie Boskovich | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Casey Carlson | ||||||||||||||||
Stephen Fowler | ||||||||||||||||
Brent Keith | ||||||||||||||||
Jackie Tohn | ||||||||||||||||
Stevie Wright |
The contestants weren't told they were in the wildcard ... they were told they didn't make the top 3... so they were eliminated... another variation of this chart could be:
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Danny Gokey | Top 13 | |||||||||||||||
Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | WC | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6-7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | WC | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | WC | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12-13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | WC | ||||||||||||||
Wild Card |
Ricky Braddy | Elim | Elim | |||||||||||||
Tatiana Del Toro | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Jesse Langseth | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Von Smith | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 3 |
Arianna Afsar | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Felicia Barton | ||||||||||||||||
Kendall Beard | ||||||||||||||||
Ju'Not Joyner | ||||||||||||||||
Nathaniel Marshall | ||||||||||||||||
Kristen McNamara | ||||||||||||||||
Taylor Vaifanua | ||||||||||||||||
Alex Wagner-Trugman | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 2 |
Matt Breitzke | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Mishavonna Henson | ||||||||||||||||
Kai Kalama | ||||||||||||||||
Nick Mitchell | ||||||||||||||||
Jeanine Vailes | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 1 |
Ann Marie Boskovich | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Casey Carlson | ||||||||||||||||
Stephen Fowler | ||||||||||||||||
Brent Keith | ||||||||||||||||
Jackie Tohn | ||||||||||||||||
Stevie Wright |
The WC showing that they were the wildcard picks and didn't make the top 13 due to public votes... Frazzler9 ( talk) 09:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
On the elimination chart it says 'Elim' instead of 'WC' on the contestants respective semi final heat. It now says 'WC' on the wild card show on contestants who advanced. Do you think it should say 'Top 13' instead of 'WC'? Well if you think it should then the top 13 must be in the wild card yellow colour as they didn't invance due to public vote. Frazzler9 ( talk) 09:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I like the new colour scheme for the btm2/3 but I don't like the use of the yellow for the 'Eliminated' blocks. It is too similar to the wildcard colours so i'm going to try something new Frazzler9 ( talk) 15:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I have changed the colour of the judges save. I have done this because I felt that it was too similar to the blue 'male' contestants. Frazzler9 ( talk) 12:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
i have removed the bold from the list of performances top 13 onwards. I have done this to match the seaosn 1 - 4 articles. I want your opinion. Do you think that the names of the eliminated contestants should be bolded? In the semi final list the names of the contestants who advanced were originally bolded but I removed it to match season 1 - 4 articles. What do you guys think? Frazzler9 ( talk) 18:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Yo since Slash is the mentor at the final 4. will he be performing a song at the results show?-- Cooly123 ( talk) 00:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
According to Digital Spy, auditions are being held Tuesday and Wednesday, May 5 and 6, in London for the next series of The X Factor. [1] Is Cowell not appearing in the episodes this week? If not, it should be mentioned. Matthewedwards : Chat 04:35, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
This article can be so amazingly frustrating. Ryan CLEARLY said that the placings were random and yet we have people putting Danny in the bottom 2. Random, people. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 02:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
The article currently notes that this will be the third season to have an All-Male finale (Top 2), however this is the first season where the Top 3 has been All-Male. Should this be noted? Mizery Made ( talk · contribs) 17:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with the chart? the horizontal lines have vanished. Intentional new look, or...?-- Cinemaniac86 Oy_gevalt. 01:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I have noticed that the performances for top 4 (duets) and top 3 are not listed in order. As said in the description for the list of performances form semi final group 1 the contestants are listed in song/performance order and to keep consistency with articles 1 - 4 then in top 3 week the performances should be displayed in order as they didn't perform both their 2 songs in one slot. Same with the duets. Frazzler9 ( talk) 20:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering, should Tatiana Del Toro actually be listed as Tatiana Nicole Del Toro, like she was when her phone number was on screen in the semi-finals. I know Megan was always listed here as Megan Joy Corkrey until she requested to drop the Corkrey, so I would have thought that Tatiana should be Tatiana Nicole? ( Kyleofark ( talk) 16:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC))
Hey guys. In a meeting with the Idol producers and 19 entertainment, a new format for the semi-finals was brought into the brainstorm of how to improve the show's success. Several ideas were tossed around and the producers are still up for suggestions but one format stood out for me. There would be a top 36 of equal gender firstly. The 3 groups of 12 would perform and after the votes are counted and verified the bottom 4 (2 females, 2 males) will be eliminated from each group leaving 8 contestants in each group. After each group performs again, the bottom 2 (1 male, 1 female) would be eliminated leaving 6 idols in each group. Then after each group has performed, the top 2 (1 male, 1 female)of each group would advance straight to the top 12. The first 6 slots of the top 12 would then be filled. The next highest male and female singer out of the 3 groups would then advance making a top 8. Now it is unlikely that Kara will be dropped after her first year so then with a top 8 formed there will be a wildcard show allowing contestants from the top 36 to perform again. Each judge would have their own pick thus forming the top 12.
Now I am very passionate about wikipedia as I think of it as the only reliable source of information that contains specific show-by-show information so I would appreciate it if people could sketch up elimination charts for this new format so I can see how they would look since I am not a fan of how the charts are used for seasons 4 - 7. Use contestants from past seasons i'm not bothered. Please post them on my wall or on this discussion page. Thanks. Frazzler9 ( talk) 14:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I cant say I can help you with the table, but I would have thought itd have looked a bit like seasons 4-7s, because there the eliminated contestants in the semi finals were parts of different groups (males/females) but are eliminated in the same line. Eg, Alaina Whitaker and Robbie Carrico are both "eliminated" in the second bit of the table, but were in different groups. But what I wanted to ask was, where did you hear this info? I actually think i'd prefer it than this seasons one because, but I dont find it likely because they would be having 9 performance shows plus a wildcard one, which actually is way to many. I think your source is probably wrong, so I wouldnt worry about the tables for it. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyleofark ( talk • contribs) 15:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Right ok ;) ( Kyleofark ( talk) 16:18, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
Firstly, please try to be civil, everybody. "Just shut up" is certainly not civil. Secondly, this is NOT a message board or a discussion forum for American Idol. It's a discussion of this particular article. So honestly, none of this should even be here. Case closed. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
If the results for tpo 4 were announced in random order then that means that Danny Gokey definately wasn't the btm 2 coz then it wouldn't have been random so that means he was top 2 Frazzler9 ( talk) 18:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
No, thats not true. The results were announced randomly, which means they were announced in a random order. This could in theory have meant they were completely muddled up, or it could have meant that Danny was actually second bottom, and the random draw left him being called third. For example, in the X Factor 5 (UK), the top 4 contestants were called in a random order, which following the show, was later shown to have actually been the order they came that week. Danny could have been top 2, or bottom 2 - all we can deduce from that week was that Allison recieved the lowest votes, and Danny, Kris and Adam were top 3 in some unknown order. ( Kyleofark ( talk) 19:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
I have bolded 'top 13' as it is a significant stage in the competition. Eliminations are also bolded. Wild card contestants who were originally eliminated arn't bolded as they were brought back. I have chnaged the judges save colour as it stands out more and isn't as similar to the male blue colour like it was before. I have also bolded it as it is significant Frazzler9 ( talk) 13:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
3 | Danny Gokey | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
4 | Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6 - 7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | Top 13 | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12 - 13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | Top 13 |
This is my new idea for the chart. Maybe the bolding of the 'Top 13' chart blocks isn't that necessary but I do feel that advancing to the next stage in the competition is of significance as well as eliminations. The judges save colour now is more distinct. I think it should definately be bolded. The fact that no one was eliminated that week should be pointed out and it follows a trend of consistency as all eliminations have been bolded... Frazzler9 ( talk) 16:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I myself...all I want...is 7 seconds without a change in the Elimination Chart color scheme. Come on people. :) Pick a color scheme and stick with it. I don't care what the color scheme is...just pick one. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
3 | Danny Gokey | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
4 | Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6 - 7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | Top 13 | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12 - 13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | Top 13 |
Well it's definately interesting. I think there is more distinction between btm 3/btm 2/eliminated but im not sure whether the eliminated dark red is aesthetically pleasing. Maybe in a lighter shade? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frazzler9 ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what all the insanity above this is about, but I propose having a distinct color for both the Winner and the Runner-Up. Looking back a few seasons, I've noticed that the Runner-Up is granted the same color as Eliminated contestants, but that is not accurate. The runner-up is not technically eliminated, and shouldn't have a color representative of such.
Ergo, I'm proposing orange, because it's separate from others on the chart, *but* close on the color spectrum to yellow (the Elim. color). This unique Winner/Runner-Up color ideal is practiced w/ Top Chef, Project Runway, and the like. I hope you all approve of it. I think it ties back to my former statements somewhere up north on this page (the Btm 3/2/Elim color debate).-- Cinemaniac86 Oy_gevalt. 17:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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Well.. the contestants who didn't make the top 3 in their semi final groups were eliminated. The judges didn't tell them they were in the wildcard untill the 3rd semi final group results show... So they were originally eliminated. Frazzler9 ( talk) 17:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
3 | Danny Gokey | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
4 | Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6-7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | Top 13 | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12-13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | Top 13 | ||||||||||||||
Wild Card |
Ricky Braddy | Elim | Elim | |||||||||||||
Tatiana Del Toro | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Jesse Langseth | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Von Smith | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 3 |
Arianna Afsar | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Felicia Barton | ||||||||||||||||
Kendall Beard | ||||||||||||||||
Ju'Not Joyner | ||||||||||||||||
Nathaniel Marshall | ||||||||||||||||
Kristen McNamara | ||||||||||||||||
Taylor Vaifanua | ||||||||||||||||
Alex Wagner-Trugman | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 2 |
Matt Breitzke | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Mishavonna Henson | ||||||||||||||||
Kai Kalama | ||||||||||||||||
Nick Mitchell | ||||||||||||||||
Jeanine Vailes | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 1 |
Ann Marie Boskovich | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Casey Carlson | ||||||||||||||||
Stephen Fowler | ||||||||||||||||
Brent Keith | ||||||||||||||||
Jackie Tohn | ||||||||||||||||
Stevie Wright |
The contestants weren't told they were in the wildcard ... they were told they didn't make the top 3... so they were eliminated... another variation of this chart could be:
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Danny Gokey | Top 13 | |||||||||||||||
Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | WC | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6-7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | WC | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | WC | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12-13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | WC | ||||||||||||||
Wild Card |
Ricky Braddy | Elim | Elim | |||||||||||||
Tatiana Del Toro | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Jesse Langseth | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Von Smith | Elim | |||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 3 |
Arianna Afsar | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Felicia Barton | ||||||||||||||||
Kendall Beard | ||||||||||||||||
Ju'Not Joyner | ||||||||||||||||
Nathaniel Marshall | ||||||||||||||||
Kristen McNamara | ||||||||||||||||
Taylor Vaifanua | ||||||||||||||||
Alex Wagner-Trugman | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 2 |
Matt Breitzke | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Mishavonna Henson | ||||||||||||||||
Kai Kalama | ||||||||||||||||
Nick Mitchell | ||||||||||||||||
Jeanine Vailes | ||||||||||||||||
Semi- Final 1 |
Ann Marie Boskovich | Elim | ||||||||||||||
Casey Carlson | ||||||||||||||||
Stephen Fowler | ||||||||||||||||
Brent Keith | ||||||||||||||||
Jackie Tohn | ||||||||||||||||
Stevie Wright |
The WC showing that they were the wildcard picks and didn't make the top 13 due to public votes... Frazzler9 ( talk) 09:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
On the elimination chart it says 'Elim' instead of 'WC' on the contestants respective semi final heat. It now says 'WC' on the wild card show on contestants who advanced. Do you think it should say 'Top 13' instead of 'WC'? Well if you think it should then the top 13 must be in the wild card yellow colour as they didn't invance due to public vote. Frazzler9 ( talk) 09:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I like the new colour scheme for the btm2/3 but I don't like the use of the yellow for the 'Eliminated' blocks. It is too similar to the wildcard colours so i'm going to try something new Frazzler9 ( talk) 15:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I have changed the colour of the judges save. I have done this because I felt that it was too similar to the blue 'male' contestants. Frazzler9 ( talk) 12:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
i have removed the bold from the list of performances top 13 onwards. I have done this to match the seaosn 1 - 4 articles. I want your opinion. Do you think that the names of the eliminated contestants should be bolded? In the semi final list the names of the contestants who advanced were originally bolded but I removed it to match season 1 - 4 articles. What do you guys think? Frazzler9 ( talk) 18:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Yo since Slash is the mentor at the final 4. will he be performing a song at the results show?-- Cooly123 ( talk) 00:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
According to Digital Spy, auditions are being held Tuesday and Wednesday, May 5 and 6, in London for the next series of The X Factor. [1] Is Cowell not appearing in the episodes this week? If not, it should be mentioned. Matthewedwards : Chat 04:35, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
This article can be so amazingly frustrating. Ryan CLEARLY said that the placings were random and yet we have people putting Danny in the bottom 2. Random, people. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 02:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
The article currently notes that this will be the third season to have an All-Male finale (Top 2), however this is the first season where the Top 3 has been All-Male. Should this be noted? Mizery Made ( talk · contribs) 17:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with the chart? the horizontal lines have vanished. Intentional new look, or...?-- Cinemaniac86 Oy_gevalt. 01:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I have noticed that the performances for top 4 (duets) and top 3 are not listed in order. As said in the description for the list of performances form semi final group 1 the contestants are listed in song/performance order and to keep consistency with articles 1 - 4 then in top 3 week the performances should be displayed in order as they didn't perform both their 2 songs in one slot. Same with the duets. Frazzler9 ( talk) 20:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering, should Tatiana Del Toro actually be listed as Tatiana Nicole Del Toro, like she was when her phone number was on screen in the semi-finals. I know Megan was always listed here as Megan Joy Corkrey until she requested to drop the Corkrey, so I would have thought that Tatiana should be Tatiana Nicole? ( Kyleofark ( talk) 16:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC))
Hey guys. In a meeting with the Idol producers and 19 entertainment, a new format for the semi-finals was brought into the brainstorm of how to improve the show's success. Several ideas were tossed around and the producers are still up for suggestions but one format stood out for me. There would be a top 36 of equal gender firstly. The 3 groups of 12 would perform and after the votes are counted and verified the bottom 4 (2 females, 2 males) will be eliminated from each group leaving 8 contestants in each group. After each group performs again, the bottom 2 (1 male, 1 female) would be eliminated leaving 6 idols in each group. Then after each group has performed, the top 2 (1 male, 1 female)of each group would advance straight to the top 12. The first 6 slots of the top 12 would then be filled. The next highest male and female singer out of the 3 groups would then advance making a top 8. Now it is unlikely that Kara will be dropped after her first year so then with a top 8 formed there will be a wildcard show allowing contestants from the top 36 to perform again. Each judge would have their own pick thus forming the top 12.
Now I am very passionate about wikipedia as I think of it as the only reliable source of information that contains specific show-by-show information so I would appreciate it if people could sketch up elimination charts for this new format so I can see how they would look since I am not a fan of how the charts are used for seasons 4 - 7. Use contestants from past seasons i'm not bothered. Please post them on my wall or on this discussion page. Thanks. Frazzler9 ( talk) 14:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I cant say I can help you with the table, but I would have thought itd have looked a bit like seasons 4-7s, because there the eliminated contestants in the semi finals were parts of different groups (males/females) but are eliminated in the same line. Eg, Alaina Whitaker and Robbie Carrico are both "eliminated" in the second bit of the table, but were in different groups. But what I wanted to ask was, where did you hear this info? I actually think i'd prefer it than this seasons one because, but I dont find it likely because they would be having 9 performance shows plus a wildcard one, which actually is way to many. I think your source is probably wrong, so I wouldnt worry about the tables for it. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyleofark ( talk • contribs) 15:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Right ok ;) ( Kyleofark ( talk) 16:18, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
Firstly, please try to be civil, everybody. "Just shut up" is certainly not civil. Secondly, this is NOT a message board or a discussion forum for American Idol. It's a discussion of this particular article. So honestly, none of this should even be here. Case closed. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
If the results for tpo 4 were announced in random order then that means that Danny Gokey definately wasn't the btm 2 coz then it wouldn't have been random so that means he was top 2 Frazzler9 ( talk) 18:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
No, thats not true. The results were announced randomly, which means they were announced in a random order. This could in theory have meant they were completely muddled up, or it could have meant that Danny was actually second bottom, and the random draw left him being called third. For example, in the X Factor 5 (UK), the top 4 contestants were called in a random order, which following the show, was later shown to have actually been the order they came that week. Danny could have been top 2, or bottom 2 - all we can deduce from that week was that Allison recieved the lowest votes, and Danny, Kris and Adam were top 3 in some unknown order. ( Kyleofark ( talk) 19:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
I have bolded 'top 13' as it is a significant stage in the competition. Eliminations are also bolded. Wild card contestants who were originally eliminated arn't bolded as they were brought back. I have chnaged the judges save colour as it stands out more and isn't as similar to the male blue colour like it was before. I have also bolded it as it is significant Frazzler9 ( talk) 13:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
3 | Danny Gokey | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
4 | Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6 - 7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | Top 13 | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12 - 13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | Top 13 |
This is my new idea for the chart. Maybe the bolding of the 'Top 13' chart blocks isn't that necessary but I do feel that advancing to the next stage in the competition is of significance as well as eliminations. The judges save colour now is more distinct. I think it should definately be bolded. The fact that no one was eliminated that week should be pointed out and it follows a trend of consistency as all eliminations have been bolded... Frazzler9 ( talk) 16:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I myself...all I want...is 7 seconds without a change in the Elimination Chart color scheme. Come on people. :) Pick a color scheme and stick with it. I don't care what the color scheme is...just pick one. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Did Not Perform | Female | Male | Top 36 | Wild Card | Top 13 | Winner |
Stage: | Semi-Finals | Wild Card |
Finals | |||||||||||||
Week: | ||||||||||||||||
Place | Contestant | Result | ||||||||||||||
Kris Allen | Top 13 | Btm 3 | ||||||||||||||
Adam Lambert | Top 13 | Btm 2 | ||||||||||||||
3 | Danny Gokey | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
4 | Allison Iraheta | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||
5 | Matt Giraud | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Saved | Elim | ||||||||||
6 - 7 | Anoop Desai | Elim | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Btm 2 | Btm 3 | Elim | |||||||||
Lil Rounds | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Btm 2 | |||||||||||||
8 | Scott MacIntyre | Top 13 | Btm 3 | Elim | ||||||||||||
9 | Megan Joy | Elim | Top 13 | Elim | ||||||||||||
10 | Michael Sarver | Top 13 | Btm 2 | Elim | ||||||||||||
11 | Alexis Grace | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
12 - 13 | Jorge Núñez | Top 13 | Elim | |||||||||||||
Jasmine Murray | Elim | Top 13 |
Well it's definately interesting. I think there is more distinction between btm 3/btm 2/eliminated but im not sure whether the eliminated dark red is aesthetically pleasing. Maybe in a lighter shade? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frazzler9 ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what all the insanity above this is about, but I propose having a distinct color for both the Winner and the Runner-Up. Looking back a few seasons, I've noticed that the Runner-Up is granted the same color as Eliminated contestants, but that is not accurate. The runner-up is not technically eliminated, and shouldn't have a color representative of such.
Ergo, I'm proposing orange, because it's separate from others on the chart, *but* close on the color spectrum to yellow (the Elim. color). This unique Winner/Runner-Up color ideal is practiced w/ Top Chef, Project Runway, and the like. I hope you all approve of it. I think it ties back to my former statements somewhere up north on this page (the Btm 3/2/Elim color debate).-- Cinemaniac86 Oy_gevalt. 17:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)