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On Anoop's and Megan's Top 13 boxes, those boxes are colored yellow now. Why is that necessary when Ryan Seacrest didn't officially announced they were members of the bottom four? They being asked to go to the center of the stage didn't mean they were the bottom four. Seacrest didn't say even a single word saying they were the bottom four... Azilko88 ( talk) 18:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it is logical to think that those called on to the stage will be the one that just scrapped through by the skin of their teeth. Syjytg ( talk) 16:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, but Ryan Seacrest didn't mention they were members of the bottom four. Yellow box means that specific contestant was a member of bottom three (or four) of that specific week. It's just like what happened with Syesha Mercado last year after the top five. Ryan kept bringing her as one member of the last two contestants, yet she was not announced as a member of bottom two. Azilko88 ( talk) 18:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Though he never mentioned, it can be implied that both of them are in the bottom 4. And please remember to sign your posts. Syjytg ( talk) 17:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
How can it be applied when Ryan never announced it? Unless there's a source stating that they were really the member of the bottom four. I think we should be consistent with American Idol Season 7's article where from the top 5 week onward, since no explicit bottom three or two were announced, we just left the boxes blank Azilko88 ( talk) 18:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Typo error. I mean implied. Syjytg ( talk) 18:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
That's the problem, it's only implied. I think we shouldn't write any assumptions here. In this case, there's also a possibility that Megan and Anoop were asked to go to the center of the stage to raise the tension. I mean, those two also didn't perform strong this week. So, to raise the tension, they were also asked to go 'accompanying' Jasmine and Jorge regardless they were really the bottom four or not. It would be hard to guess who would be out then (let's say, if Danny Gokey or Adam Lambert, the judges favorites, were asked to accompany Jorge and Jasmine, it would be a no-brainer guess that Jasmine and Jorge would be the ones who got voted off). Azilko88 ( talk) 18:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
May I know the spoiler site please? url? Syjytg ( talk) 04:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
That is not really a spoiler site. they are not 100% accurate. Syjytg ( talk) 09:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
At his audition, it said Norman Gentle, not Normund. I thought you were a free encyclopedia, not a name butchering fact site. -- 68.255.78.37 ( talk) 19:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
On the first group result show ryan said that there was a 20,000 vote gap between anoop and Michael. This implies that anoop was 3rd place in his group... I know this might not be concrete evidence for his 3rd place placement but it should be noted about the vote difference Frazzler9 ( talk) 23:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I think that on the list of finalists and their songs, the theme should be put next to the song selection as it looks strange that the wildcard acts have an extra song Frazzler9 ( talk) 23:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Theres a typo in the elimination chart with "Anne Marie" instead of the correct "Ann Marie". I dont have an account at the moment so I cant change it myself, can somebody else fix it please, thanks. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.176.86 ( talk) 21:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
It should be added to the paragraph about the new judges rule that they can only use their veto power ONCE in the whole competition. That's what Ryan said. 121.247.68.245 ( talk) 16:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone decided to AfD all of the finalists and the two semi-finalists that have articles here as a list: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kris Allen. Never mind that five of them (Michael Sarver, Jasmine Murray, Lil Rounds, Jorge Nunez and Scott MacIntyre) were all closed as Keep or No consensus less than twelve hours ago or that Danny Gokey should have the same thing happen to its AfD anytime now. If only we could have had this same support for Alexis Grace's second nomination after it was Kept the first time. Aspects ( talk) 08:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
At the end of Kris Allen's description in the Finalists section there is a typo. An extra "a" appears after "sweetheart.".
The week will preempt on Wednesday (March 25) and Thursday (March 26) because of White House Press Conference on Tuesday night in the United States.
Source: http://www.fox.com/schedule.htm?src=menu_item_schedule#week:2009-03-22
-- ApprenticeFan Messages Work 11:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Do we need to keep the sources up for the "other performances" once they have aired? I mean. We don't have to source the group songs. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 16:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Entertainment weekly stated that Adam came top with something like a staggering 32% of the vote. Frazzler9 ( talk) 13:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Provide the source before changing. An example of a source is the url of the Entertainment weekly. Syjytg ( talk) 13:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I've heard something like this too - except it was Danny, and it was something like 40-some percent of the vote. Again, no reputable source. As believable as Adam's getting 32% of the vote may be, I doubt you're going to find a reputable media outlet that will confirm this - Goldman-Sachs, the company that counts the votes, is notoriously secretive about the exact percentages of votes each contestant gets (they have a confidentiality agreement with the show) - so if someone does start saying that "so-and-so got x% of the votes", it's likely speculation. But yes, it is interesting :-) Cespence17 ( talk) 17:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Walkin' after Midnight is by Patsy Cline not Stevie Wonder. For Once in my Life is by Stevie Wonder not Marvin Gaye
NO it's not... For Once iN my life is originally Tony Bennett.
All the wild card contestants including top 13 finalists should have a wild card label next to their wildcard song. actually I think that each themed week should be labeled next to each contestants song. Frazzler9 ( talk) 22:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Please change Michael Sarver to Elim on 3/26 instead of BTM2 on 5/20. It also lists Adam Lambert as 10th place. Drundax ( talk) 02:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Ryan Seacrest confirmed it on Twitter one hour ago. Source: http://twitter.com/RyanSeacrest
Can someone update this info, since I can't updated the Wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.201.22.6 ( talk) 03:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
This article states Adam Lambert as being openly gay without listing a source. Has he ever declared to the media that he is gay? Videos of him kissing guys are not valid sources. Gingerwiki ( talk) 15:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Unless I missed something, Ryan never said that Matt was bottom 2. I have a feeling Scott was "saved" first because it was just easier for him. Otherwise he'd have to be guided all over the place as they shuffle the bottom 2 around quite a bit. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 04:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I had a hard time believing it too, but Ryan did say "These are your bottom two" at some point in the results show last night - I'll have to go back over my DVR later to make sure. But who knows, he could have just said it to create drama, and Matt might have actually been completely safe the whole time - just some poor random finalist put in the hot seat for the sake of good tv. Another thing we'll probably never know for sure... Cespence17 ( talk) 13:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC I dont think they will go that far. They will be in deep trouble if they were caught by faking the results just for drama. I think these are the real bottom 3. The actual results might be accidentally leaked out, so I doubt they will take such a risk just for better TV. Dialidol might be wrong this time about Matt. Syjytg ( talk) 14:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I dont think they would would say "bottom 3" to someone who isnt in the bottom 3. I could only see them doing what they did to Anoop and Megan in Week 1 of the finals and call them to the centre, but then they didnt say anything about a bottom 4. ( 90.201.176.86 ( talk) 21:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC))
we should not put bottom 2 or 3 because nigel Lyth good revealed that because they say bottom 2 it might not be. the voting company that counts the votes tells the producers the bottom 3 and who goes home but does not say the bottom 2, so the bottom 2 ryan announces is the one with the least votes and who the producers want to be in the bottom 2 out of the bottom 3, so adam could have been in the bottom 3 and kris in the bottom 2. plus y did they show that video of Adam being in the bottom 2, because the producers want to coinvence the tone deaf retarded tean age girls with cell phones who are in love with that gay fag to vote for him, either till voting is cut off or till there fingers are just bone. girls be smart, Adam is gay, if you dont believe me read the one on wether or not he is gay, they talk about videos and interviews with him kissing guys and with him admiting that hes gay, plus go to votefortheworst.com and click on the Adam Lambert tag on the right and they will have pictures of him being gay and retarded, plus you girls who think you can be with him are retards, what are ur iqs, 65? 04:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)04:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.216.2.130 ( talk)
I guess I don't quite understand this idea that they "tied for 13th". I highly doubt that they tied for 13th. So they finished 12th or 13th. That's what the 12-13 means. We have ample precedent for this in previous seasons. This is one example. For the past several seasons, they eliminated 4 every week in the semis but they never gave places. So they were listed as 13-16, 17-21, etc. In season 6, we had a similar situation to this year. Phil Stacey and Chris Richardson were both eliminated during the same week. In the chart, they are listed as 5-6. I just don't get the issue I guess. Using 12-13 is entirely accurate. "Tied for 13th" implies that they tied in votes. Well they didn't. The show never gave places and we shouldn't imply places. We'll never know which finished which. But saying 13th is dishonest and simply incorrect. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 11:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey... I put all the contestants in their respective semi final groups. I put htem in performance order. This is necessary as if you want to see who was in each semi final group you have to look at the elimination chart and be confused by the 'WC' , 'Top 13' tags. The american idol season 3 page has some thing similar to mine with the results for each group at the bottom. I was wondering however if we could make the season 8 semi final lists identic to season 3 coz its a lot to digest... it wud be better without the semi final contestants information. Make another page 'Season 8 semi finalists' and put that information there. this new layout is good as it shows all the finalists in their respective group and it helps analyse the competition... e.g. some1 reviewing it can do them in the appropriate order and it also shows that the contestants who performed 1st didn't make it. Frazzler9 ( talk) 13:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
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Hey, just asking, is you put the semi-final performances like you did in the articles of Seasons 1-4, Can't you also put the Top 13 weeks in the same way with the order of each contestant? Like Top 13 (Michael Jackson) then order each finalist with the song they sang, and at the end put the bottom 3, bottom 2, and eliminated? I liked how you guys did that. JPSinger45 ( talk) 18:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
We apparently have a round of telepathy going on. Let's wait until the show actually airs to put up who is going to do what. Oi. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 00:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Source: [3] (Yes, blogs aren't that reliable...) -- 71.243.51.45 ( talk) 07:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Look at my explanations on the otp 13 performance list coz i have changed megan and jorge to btm 3/4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frazzler9 ( talk • contribs) 16:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry but I dont feel that it should go on there unless Ryan specifically said it. For all we know, Megan and Anoop got the top 2 votes. Unless they confirm it, I dont think its encyclopidic. ( 90.203.39.229 ( talk) 17:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC))
LOL for that week Anoop sucked but Megs was awesome but I doubt they got the top 2 votes. Yes I understand that it isn't encyclopidic but Wikipedia isn't just an encyclopedia. IF it was then yeah it wud state that Jazza and Jorge were the lowest but the fact that we can edit it and analyze information to our own conclusion. I have explained why they are on the table as it is most probable that they were the btm 4 based on the points I made. So i'm going to change it baCK. Frazzler9 ( talk) 22:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
With all due respect its your opinion, but I dont see why that means it should automatically go on the article. I gave a reason against your side of it (the unregistered user was me oops), and I think it should go that way because it was like that originally, suggesting that anyone who edited before agreed that this was the case. I dont want you to think im attacking you or anything, but I dont think its a place for an opinion. The facts state that Megan and Anoop were called to the centre of the stage, but were told nothing about being in the bottom 4. I personally agree that it could be likely that they were, but I dont think this is the place for opinions. I personally think the note underneath the table that mentions the two being called to the stages centre is enough. :) ( Kyleofark ( talk) 23:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC))
Can you please remove "4th WC" for Von Smith? It's really distracting. Is he really 4th Place? I don't think he was. -- ( JPSinger45 ( talk) 8:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC))
One more thing, I'm not trying to be noisy and annoying, but since Ryan Seacrest has kept saying the rankings of the Bottom 3, can't we keep the signs in the same old pale goldenrod from Season 1-6? I liked it with only one color. -- ( JPSinger45 ( talk) 11:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.34.179 ( talk)
Lil Rounds Bottom 3 Streak goes April 8: Btm 3 , April 15: Btm 2. Anoop's Bottom 3 Streak goes April 1: Btm 2, April 8: Btm 2, April 15: Btm 3, and Both Elim. I saw it a little messed up. -- (
JPSinger45 (
talk) 22:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC))
On other articles of Allison Iraheta and Danny Gokey, they say that they were the Top 2, which they definitely would've been since there was a Bottom 3. Should we put the Top 2 symbol like in Season 5? ( JPSinger45 ( talk) 20:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC))
We can't have the 1-4 format AND the bios of the finalists. It was one big mass of information with lots of repeating. I object to this new format as I think it's a bit too sprawling but if that's what folks want, that's fine. But we can't have both formats. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I sort of agree. I would propose keeping both sections, but in the bio sections removing the song choices, only leaving the information on the contestants. I think the new format is easier to read and it looks neater too. The old format would have been fine, but the wildcard round does make it a bit confusing why four finalists have more songs than others. ( Kyleofark ( talk) 17:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC))
Okay, so we can't have both a short bio and the current list format? What are we to do about the contestants who don't have articles? (See Alexis Grace) -- 151.203.215.131 ( talk) 18:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Matt Giraud
01. "Viva la Vida" (Coldplay) -- Eliminated
02. "Who's Lovin' You" (The Jackson 5) -- Wild Card Pick
03. "Human Nature" (Michael Jackson)
Semi-Finals Group 1
Semi-Finals Group 2
Semi-Finals Group 3
Wild Card
Ricky Braddy
Tatiana Del Toro
Jesse Langseth
Von Smith
Finalists
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Since the show is making a point of identifying the bottom 2 within the bottom 3 this season, would it be ok if we went back to using the standard palegoldenrod color for all Btm and Elim boxes in the finals like in the seasons 1-6 pages? Using the different shades of yellow for the bottom 3 began in season 7 as a method for distinguishing the order they were saved, but that information isn't really relevant anymore this season if they tell us who the bottom 2 are. There are way too many different shades of yellow in use on the chart as it is anyway. Surely, this is a reasonable request, no? MarkMc1990 ( talk) 19:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Unless you get full consensus to change the colors of these boxes to palegodenrod, then quit adding it. It completely disrupts the entire flow of the chart, the legend, and is completely unnecessary. Quit adding it. Gage ( talk) 00:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you please put the pale golden rod shading please? I liked it from Seasons 1-6. It was good for only Season 7 because Ryan Seacrest never announced who was in Btm 3 or Btm 2. The colors are awful for this season. He announces their actual rankings. For example, he stated the Top 11 Btm 2 (Michael and Alexis), Top 10 Bottom 2 (Matt and Michael), Top 9 Bottom 2 (Anoop and Megan), Top 8 Btm 2 (Scott and Anoop), Top 7 Btm 2 (Lil and Matt) and the Top 7 2.0 Btm 3 (Allison , Lil and Anoop). So I don't know why this is still going on. -- JPSinger45 ( talk) 22:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
This is how it currently is
Safe
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Bottom 3
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Bottom 2
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Eliminated
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Judges' Save
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This is how I believe it should be
Safe
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Bottom 3
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Bottom 2
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Eliminated
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Judges' Save
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MarkMc1990 ( talk) 05:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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On Anoop's and Megan's Top 13 boxes, those boxes are colored yellow now. Why is that necessary when Ryan Seacrest didn't officially announced they were members of the bottom four? They being asked to go to the center of the stage didn't mean they were the bottom four. Seacrest didn't say even a single word saying they were the bottom four... Azilko88 ( talk) 18:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it is logical to think that those called on to the stage will be the one that just scrapped through by the skin of their teeth. Syjytg ( talk) 16:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, but Ryan Seacrest didn't mention they were members of the bottom four. Yellow box means that specific contestant was a member of bottom three (or four) of that specific week. It's just like what happened with Syesha Mercado last year after the top five. Ryan kept bringing her as one member of the last two contestants, yet she was not announced as a member of bottom two. Azilko88 ( talk) 18:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Though he never mentioned, it can be implied that both of them are in the bottom 4. And please remember to sign your posts. Syjytg ( talk) 17:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
How can it be applied when Ryan never announced it? Unless there's a source stating that they were really the member of the bottom four. I think we should be consistent with American Idol Season 7's article where from the top 5 week onward, since no explicit bottom three or two were announced, we just left the boxes blank Azilko88 ( talk) 18:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Typo error. I mean implied. Syjytg ( talk) 18:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
That's the problem, it's only implied. I think we shouldn't write any assumptions here. In this case, there's also a possibility that Megan and Anoop were asked to go to the center of the stage to raise the tension. I mean, those two also didn't perform strong this week. So, to raise the tension, they were also asked to go 'accompanying' Jasmine and Jorge regardless they were really the bottom four or not. It would be hard to guess who would be out then (let's say, if Danny Gokey or Adam Lambert, the judges favorites, were asked to accompany Jorge and Jasmine, it would be a no-brainer guess that Jasmine and Jorge would be the ones who got voted off). Azilko88 ( talk) 18:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
May I know the spoiler site please? url? Syjytg ( talk) 04:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
That is not really a spoiler site. they are not 100% accurate. Syjytg ( talk) 09:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
At his audition, it said Norman Gentle, not Normund. I thought you were a free encyclopedia, not a name butchering fact site. -- 68.255.78.37 ( talk) 19:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
On the first group result show ryan said that there was a 20,000 vote gap between anoop and Michael. This implies that anoop was 3rd place in his group... I know this might not be concrete evidence for his 3rd place placement but it should be noted about the vote difference Frazzler9 ( talk) 23:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I think that on the list of finalists and their songs, the theme should be put next to the song selection as it looks strange that the wildcard acts have an extra song Frazzler9 ( talk) 23:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Theres a typo in the elimination chart with "Anne Marie" instead of the correct "Ann Marie". I dont have an account at the moment so I cant change it myself, can somebody else fix it please, thanks. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.176.86 ( talk) 21:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
It should be added to the paragraph about the new judges rule that they can only use their veto power ONCE in the whole competition. That's what Ryan said. 121.247.68.245 ( talk) 16:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone decided to AfD all of the finalists and the two semi-finalists that have articles here as a list: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kris Allen. Never mind that five of them (Michael Sarver, Jasmine Murray, Lil Rounds, Jorge Nunez and Scott MacIntyre) were all closed as Keep or No consensus less than twelve hours ago or that Danny Gokey should have the same thing happen to its AfD anytime now. If only we could have had this same support for Alexis Grace's second nomination after it was Kept the first time. Aspects ( talk) 08:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
At the end of Kris Allen's description in the Finalists section there is a typo. An extra "a" appears after "sweetheart.".
The week will preempt on Wednesday (March 25) and Thursday (March 26) because of White House Press Conference on Tuesday night in the United States.
Source: http://www.fox.com/schedule.htm?src=menu_item_schedule#week:2009-03-22
-- ApprenticeFan Messages Work 11:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Do we need to keep the sources up for the "other performances" once they have aired? I mean. We don't have to source the group songs. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 16:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Entertainment weekly stated that Adam came top with something like a staggering 32% of the vote. Frazzler9 ( talk) 13:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Provide the source before changing. An example of a source is the url of the Entertainment weekly. Syjytg ( talk) 13:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I've heard something like this too - except it was Danny, and it was something like 40-some percent of the vote. Again, no reputable source. As believable as Adam's getting 32% of the vote may be, I doubt you're going to find a reputable media outlet that will confirm this - Goldman-Sachs, the company that counts the votes, is notoriously secretive about the exact percentages of votes each contestant gets (they have a confidentiality agreement with the show) - so if someone does start saying that "so-and-so got x% of the votes", it's likely speculation. But yes, it is interesting :-) Cespence17 ( talk) 17:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Walkin' after Midnight is by Patsy Cline not Stevie Wonder. For Once in my Life is by Stevie Wonder not Marvin Gaye
NO it's not... For Once iN my life is originally Tony Bennett.
All the wild card contestants including top 13 finalists should have a wild card label next to their wildcard song. actually I think that each themed week should be labeled next to each contestants song. Frazzler9 ( talk) 22:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Please change Michael Sarver to Elim on 3/26 instead of BTM2 on 5/20. It also lists Adam Lambert as 10th place. Drundax ( talk) 02:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Ryan Seacrest confirmed it on Twitter one hour ago. Source: http://twitter.com/RyanSeacrest
Can someone update this info, since I can't updated the Wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.201.22.6 ( talk) 03:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
This article states Adam Lambert as being openly gay without listing a source. Has he ever declared to the media that he is gay? Videos of him kissing guys are not valid sources. Gingerwiki ( talk) 15:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Unless I missed something, Ryan never said that Matt was bottom 2. I have a feeling Scott was "saved" first because it was just easier for him. Otherwise he'd have to be guided all over the place as they shuffle the bottom 2 around quite a bit. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 04:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I had a hard time believing it too, but Ryan did say "These are your bottom two" at some point in the results show last night - I'll have to go back over my DVR later to make sure. But who knows, he could have just said it to create drama, and Matt might have actually been completely safe the whole time - just some poor random finalist put in the hot seat for the sake of good tv. Another thing we'll probably never know for sure... Cespence17 ( talk) 13:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC I dont think they will go that far. They will be in deep trouble if they were caught by faking the results just for drama. I think these are the real bottom 3. The actual results might be accidentally leaked out, so I doubt they will take such a risk just for better TV. Dialidol might be wrong this time about Matt. Syjytg ( talk) 14:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I dont think they would would say "bottom 3" to someone who isnt in the bottom 3. I could only see them doing what they did to Anoop and Megan in Week 1 of the finals and call them to the centre, but then they didnt say anything about a bottom 4. ( 90.201.176.86 ( talk) 21:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC))
we should not put bottom 2 or 3 because nigel Lyth good revealed that because they say bottom 2 it might not be. the voting company that counts the votes tells the producers the bottom 3 and who goes home but does not say the bottom 2, so the bottom 2 ryan announces is the one with the least votes and who the producers want to be in the bottom 2 out of the bottom 3, so adam could have been in the bottom 3 and kris in the bottom 2. plus y did they show that video of Adam being in the bottom 2, because the producers want to coinvence the tone deaf retarded tean age girls with cell phones who are in love with that gay fag to vote for him, either till voting is cut off or till there fingers are just bone. girls be smart, Adam is gay, if you dont believe me read the one on wether or not he is gay, they talk about videos and interviews with him kissing guys and with him admiting that hes gay, plus go to votefortheworst.com and click on the Adam Lambert tag on the right and they will have pictures of him being gay and retarded, plus you girls who think you can be with him are retards, what are ur iqs, 65? 04:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)04:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.216.2.130 ( talk)
I guess I don't quite understand this idea that they "tied for 13th". I highly doubt that they tied for 13th. So they finished 12th or 13th. That's what the 12-13 means. We have ample precedent for this in previous seasons. This is one example. For the past several seasons, they eliminated 4 every week in the semis but they never gave places. So they were listed as 13-16, 17-21, etc. In season 6, we had a similar situation to this year. Phil Stacey and Chris Richardson were both eliminated during the same week. In the chart, they are listed as 5-6. I just don't get the issue I guess. Using 12-13 is entirely accurate. "Tied for 13th" implies that they tied in votes. Well they didn't. The show never gave places and we shouldn't imply places. We'll never know which finished which. But saying 13th is dishonest and simply incorrect. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 11:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey... I put all the contestants in their respective semi final groups. I put htem in performance order. This is necessary as if you want to see who was in each semi final group you have to look at the elimination chart and be confused by the 'WC' , 'Top 13' tags. The american idol season 3 page has some thing similar to mine with the results for each group at the bottom. I was wondering however if we could make the season 8 semi final lists identic to season 3 coz its a lot to digest... it wud be better without the semi final contestants information. Make another page 'Season 8 semi finalists' and put that information there. this new layout is good as it shows all the finalists in their respective group and it helps analyse the competition... e.g. some1 reviewing it can do them in the appropriate order and it also shows that the contestants who performed 1st didn't make it. Frazzler9 ( talk) 13:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
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Hey, just asking, is you put the semi-final performances like you did in the articles of Seasons 1-4, Can't you also put the Top 13 weeks in the same way with the order of each contestant? Like Top 13 (Michael Jackson) then order each finalist with the song they sang, and at the end put the bottom 3, bottom 2, and eliminated? I liked how you guys did that. JPSinger45 ( talk) 18:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
We apparently have a round of telepathy going on. Let's wait until the show actually airs to put up who is going to do what. Oi. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 00:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Source: [3] (Yes, blogs aren't that reliable...) -- 71.243.51.45 ( talk) 07:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Look at my explanations on the otp 13 performance list coz i have changed megan and jorge to btm 3/4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frazzler9 ( talk • contribs) 16:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry but I dont feel that it should go on there unless Ryan specifically said it. For all we know, Megan and Anoop got the top 2 votes. Unless they confirm it, I dont think its encyclopidic. ( 90.203.39.229 ( talk) 17:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC))
LOL for that week Anoop sucked but Megs was awesome but I doubt they got the top 2 votes. Yes I understand that it isn't encyclopidic but Wikipedia isn't just an encyclopedia. IF it was then yeah it wud state that Jazza and Jorge were the lowest but the fact that we can edit it and analyze information to our own conclusion. I have explained why they are on the table as it is most probable that they were the btm 4 based on the points I made. So i'm going to change it baCK. Frazzler9 ( talk) 22:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
With all due respect its your opinion, but I dont see why that means it should automatically go on the article. I gave a reason against your side of it (the unregistered user was me oops), and I think it should go that way because it was like that originally, suggesting that anyone who edited before agreed that this was the case. I dont want you to think im attacking you or anything, but I dont think its a place for an opinion. The facts state that Megan and Anoop were called to the centre of the stage, but were told nothing about being in the bottom 4. I personally agree that it could be likely that they were, but I dont think this is the place for opinions. I personally think the note underneath the table that mentions the two being called to the stages centre is enough. :) ( Kyleofark ( talk) 23:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC))
Can you please remove "4th WC" for Von Smith? It's really distracting. Is he really 4th Place? I don't think he was. -- ( JPSinger45 ( talk) 8:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC))
One more thing, I'm not trying to be noisy and annoying, but since Ryan Seacrest has kept saying the rankings of the Bottom 3, can't we keep the signs in the same old pale goldenrod from Season 1-6? I liked it with only one color. -- ( JPSinger45 ( talk) 11:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.34.179 ( talk)
Lil Rounds Bottom 3 Streak goes April 8: Btm 3 , April 15: Btm 2. Anoop's Bottom 3 Streak goes April 1: Btm 2, April 8: Btm 2, April 15: Btm 3, and Both Elim. I saw it a little messed up. -- (
JPSinger45 (
talk) 22:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC))
On other articles of Allison Iraheta and Danny Gokey, they say that they were the Top 2, which they definitely would've been since there was a Bottom 3. Should we put the Top 2 symbol like in Season 5? ( JPSinger45 ( talk) 20:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC))
We can't have the 1-4 format AND the bios of the finalists. It was one big mass of information with lots of repeating. I object to this new format as I think it's a bit too sprawling but if that's what folks want, that's fine. But we can't have both formats. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I sort of agree. I would propose keeping both sections, but in the bio sections removing the song choices, only leaving the information on the contestants. I think the new format is easier to read and it looks neater too. The old format would have been fine, but the wildcard round does make it a bit confusing why four finalists have more songs than others. ( Kyleofark ( talk) 17:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC))
Okay, so we can't have both a short bio and the current list format? What are we to do about the contestants who don't have articles? (See Alexis Grace) -- 151.203.215.131 ( talk) 18:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Matt Giraud
01. "Viva la Vida" (Coldplay) -- Eliminated
02. "Who's Lovin' You" (The Jackson 5) -- Wild Card Pick
03. "Human Nature" (Michael Jackson)
Semi-Finals Group 1
Semi-Finals Group 2
Semi-Finals Group 3
Wild Card
Ricky Braddy
Tatiana Del Toro
Jesse Langseth
Von Smith
Finalists
....
Since the show is making a point of identifying the bottom 2 within the bottom 3 this season, would it be ok if we went back to using the standard palegoldenrod color for all Btm and Elim boxes in the finals like in the seasons 1-6 pages? Using the different shades of yellow for the bottom 3 began in season 7 as a method for distinguishing the order they were saved, but that information isn't really relevant anymore this season if they tell us who the bottom 2 are. There are way too many different shades of yellow in use on the chart as it is anyway. Surely, this is a reasonable request, no? MarkMc1990 ( talk) 19:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Unless you get full consensus to change the colors of these boxes to palegodenrod, then quit adding it. It completely disrupts the entire flow of the chart, the legend, and is completely unnecessary. Quit adding it. Gage ( talk) 00:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you please put the pale golden rod shading please? I liked it from Seasons 1-6. It was good for only Season 7 because Ryan Seacrest never announced who was in Btm 3 or Btm 2. The colors are awful for this season. He announces their actual rankings. For example, he stated the Top 11 Btm 2 (Michael and Alexis), Top 10 Bottom 2 (Matt and Michael), Top 9 Bottom 2 (Anoop and Megan), Top 8 Btm 2 (Scott and Anoop), Top 7 Btm 2 (Lil and Matt) and the Top 7 2.0 Btm 3 (Allison , Lil and Anoop). So I don't know why this is still going on. -- JPSinger45 ( talk) 22:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
This is how it currently is
Safe
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Bottom 3
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Bottom 2
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Eliminated
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Judges' Save
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This is how I believe it should be
Safe
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Bottom 3
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Bottom 2
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Eliminated
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Judges' Save
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MarkMc1990 ( talk) 05:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)