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Good planning adding a season that won't be notable until January, that's a good idea. To be honest I hate the whole notability rule because many interesting things aren't notable, surely we should include much more in Wikipedia than is currently included. Series premiere (remake) ( talk) 02:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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Check the semifinals list.
I thought having this section is sort of "outlawed"? Remember that this article spans only America. Why include outside broadcasts when those countries don't directly have a say in the show? - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 00:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
If possible, it's best to match the past couple of seasons' pages. It doesn't mean we can't make changes but consistency is good. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 12:10, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Can I just add Future tvshow information template in the main article? Because it is currently airing like Survivor: Tocantins and The Amazing Race 14. ApprenticeFan ( talk) 02:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Can I add the groups of the each 12 of 36 semi-finalists in three weeks like the first three seFelicia Barton Wikipedia:WikiProject Idol series some years ago that only finalists get their own Wikipedia articles (except those who had one before Idol). The names of semi-finalists are redirected back to their season, so the semi-finalist's bio in the season article is his/her Wikipedia "article", so to speak. -- RBBrittain ( talk) 05:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
While talking about the AI contestant sections, is it really necessary to label male vs. female seeing that AI is going back into open gender preliminary voting? Would save a lot of space. Plus, if people don't know if a singer is a man or woman that singer probably doesn't meet the notability standards. ( Argentak ( talk) 07:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC))
I cleaned up the lines in the chart and it was revised? why? I don't understand I made the chart look cleaner, and my reward is a revision, maybe it meets previous year's "standards" but maybe we should redo the standards to make it better, i.e. cleaner Americanedol ( talk) 02:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I think on Vote For The Worst and joesplace's blog they refer to him as "NORMUND" gentle. I'm just wondering which one's right? 24.6.187.230 ( talk) 05:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
They do that as a joke because that's the way Simon pronounces it. It is Norman, that's what it says on the nameplate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.193.229 ( talk) 22:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
The line "She has been known to create a lot of drama" seems moderately unencyclopedic to me. While she DOES seem to create a lot of drama and, to me, at least, is very unpalatable, Wikipedia is not the place to discuss it. I've removed the line.
If later someone finds a source that can verify/validate this in a more encyclopedic way, I have no problems with this being added in. Maxvip ( talk) 21:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
To me the table is inconsistant. Why are two people in this semifinal listed as eliminated and put at the bottom, and the rest are still in their spot, listed as "out"? Are the people listed as "out" going to Wildcard? There was no way of telling from tonight's show. Stjimmy61892 ( talk) 02:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Please correct the grammar on footnote regarding eliminated contestants. The verb returning should be changed to return. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blitzkreig22 ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please indicate which contestant was the top vote getter of the gender and which one was top of the rest? For some reason, I can't edit as it is semiprotected. Syjytg ( talk) 05:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, the episode is not yet broadcasted in my country, so I didn't know the info was not revealed. Syjytg ( talk) 07:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please fix the colors so they are consistent (eg, elimination colors differ) and also it is obvious which is which? 67.189.254.228 ( talk) 01:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The format for season 8 is essentially the same as that of seasons 1-3. It is NOT the same as seasons 4-7, so the chart shouldn't look like 4-7. There are no places at all for the semi-finals. People were randomly put into these groups. Being eliminated in group 1 doesn't make the people in 27th through 36th places. It simply isn't setup that way this season. They are simply eliminated in group 1, 2 or 3. And because of the new/old format, they aren't "out" or totally "eliminated". In fact, it's possible for 3 people to be picked as wild cards from group 1. We won't know for 3 more weeks. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 02:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
REGARDING THE TOP 12 FINALISTS - I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY KRIS ALLEN IS FIRST WHILE DANNY GOKEY IS LAST, THE NAMES SHOULD BE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER!!! KRIS ALLEN, DANNY GOKEY, ALEXIS GRACE, ALLISON IRAHETA, ADAM LAMBERT, THEN MICHAEL SARVER
"but Simon wasn't impressed with his outfit stating "it's all a bit geeky"" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.29.175 ( talk) 02:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Please correct his blurb it currently says he is a "church music teacher" which is wrong. Gokey is the praise and worship music director at two Faith Builders churches in Wisconsin (Beloit and Milwaukee) and he travels back and forth to Nashville where he's been recording and working on the foundation that he set up in his wife Sophia's name, Sophia's Heart Foundation. [1] [2]
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.29.175 ( talk) 03:01, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Now that Danny, Alexis and Michael are finalists, articles can be made about them, correct? Just feels weird doing it so early. :) I was ready to revert the additions to Danny's article until I went...wait. :) He's a finalist. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 05:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Has it been clearly determined how the contestants will be chosen to participate in the wild card round? Will any contestant who wasn't picked during the inital 3 group nights be eligible to compete for a wild card spot, or only those who were next in line for a finalist position (for example, Tatiana & Anoop)? It just seems like this hasn't been clearly addressed, and the article doesn't seem to explain it either. Anyone have any further explanation? Cespence17 ( talk) 21:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
All 27 will compete. During the results show, I heard 1 in 9 shot. It means 3 out of 27. Syjytg ( talk) 05:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Revised this based on an article from 2/25/2009 that quoted an AI spokesperson. The previous procedure cited (including 4th or 5th based vote-getters and the WC round including 12 singers) was listed in this article as an Internet-based rumor that was incorrect. Citation included. Tedying ( talk) 19:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Can we mark that Jasmine, Megan, Anoop, and Matt G sang their second song in the Wild Card Round in their song lists? JPSinger45( talk) 18:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The American Idol producers forced whoever runs his fansite to shut it down. Is it because they showed the t-shirts and talked about the website on live television 'cause looking back at it, it seems like Seacrest mentioned it first, and the producers said it gives him unfair advantage when it's clear that Danny Gokey has been pimped so much and has a bunch of fansites (don't get me wrong, this isn't something against Gokey). Does this count as a Controversy or is it not Notable enough? 75.57.240.173 ( talk) 02:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
The information provided about Jorge Nuñez is incorrect. He is a 21 year old from Cidra, Puerto Rico. He was born on October 1, 1987 at Caguas, Puerto Rico. Although he resides in Carolina for college reasons, he is naturally from Cidra. If anyone can change the old and incorrect information with this new one I'll be thanking you a whole lot and happy at the same time.
Arab? Bengali? Filipino? Take your pick and get on with it. Unless there is a source that proves any of these, they should be removed. 23prootiecute
Where does one find corroborating sources for the birth dates listed in the article? Every search I've run (granted, I've only run a few of the names, but still) comes up with either irrelevant results (person w/same name) or just Wikipedia and sites that use Wikipedia as a source. Can these dates be verified? If not, I think we should remove them and only mention their age per americanidol.com. Hermione 1980 23:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Nooo... not playing that game. You people update this article often enough, so you ought to post when people are eliminated. At any rate, Adam is out, fucker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSHm4x4TGk Sorry it burns you up to hear it. Deal with it. And seeing him on the show tonight answers my question (which you apparently had a hard time doing). -- 24.21.148.212 ( talk) 05:53, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
1) Youtube is not a reliable source, 2) Adam just performed last night and we haven't even had the results show yet, 3) Even if he didn't make it through last night, he still has a chance to come back for the wildcard round. So unless you're clairvoyant or work for Goldman-Sachs (the company that tallies the votes), you don't know what you're talking about. Cespence17 ( talk) 14:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Dalejenkins | 23:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Only a few finalists lack articles, and that is because they lost notability by producing nothing for a long time post-Idol. The deletion debate should be withdrawn, they will be needed no matter what and since they are in, there is no problem in having them now. CrazyC83 ( talk) 02:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
"He is probably best known for his emotional outbursts during Hollywood week." probably best known? I don't really go on wikipedia much, but i don't think this should be there 'cause it's like speculation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.240.173 ( talk) 05:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
hey! I think it is necessary to add the performance order to the finalists and others (jackie and von) who have wiki pages as done in seasons 6 + 7. I also think that a scorecard like list should be composed as done in the season 1 - 4 articles. This is helpful as it wastes less time as at the moment on the season 8 page you have to skip between the male and female semi-finalists to see which group they were in. It would also show performance order for semi finalists who don't get there own page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frazzler9 ( talk • contribs) 15:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
This Idol semi-finalist whose born Brent Keith Smith. Source: http://www.brentkeithsmith.net/ ApprenticeFan ( talk) 14:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I went back on the first three seasons' pages and abbreviated "Wild Card" to "WC" in the semifinal columns on their elimination tables, and I hope we can all agree to do the same for this season. I don't feel it is necessary to spell out the whole thing and significantly expand the columns, especially considering we abbreviate other words like "Bottom" (Btm) and "Eliminated" (Elim). The whole point of abbreviations is to cut down on table width, right? Even if someone wasn't sure what "WC" meant just looking at the table, it is conveyed in the legend. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 22:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey i think the semi final groupings should include those who make the top 12 just so it's easier to read and also should be placed in performance order... Frazzler9 ( talk) 16:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The following message has been added in the table mark-up where
Top 12 |
should be: "DO NOT ADD TOP 12 HERE. IT IS CONSIDERED VANDALISM, AND WILL BE REVERTED." Why is that and who decided that? Thats the way the season 1-3 charts present the info, I don't see why this season should be different or why updating completely relevent and necessary information would be considered vandalism. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 02:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
When will we be able to work on the three finalist that were picked tonight? Candyplatypus ( talk) 05:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
A previous precedant and a question. Firstly, we need sources for future performances on results shows. We've done this in the past as well. Why? Look at Jason Castro this year. Supposedly he was going to perform this week but he never did. There are often last minute changes such as that. So we need sources.
Secondly, what should we do with the weeks? Right now it says Top 13, Top 12, etc. Well. That can't be. :) They are going to have to boot off 2 people one of these weeks. The math just doesn't work otherwise. So maybe use dates instead? Or go back to this format? -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 10:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
So, it was just announced that JHud will be taping a performance this week after the Wed live performances, to be shown at some later unspecified date. [3] Is there a previously used way to notate this in the "Other Performances" since it isn't dated and can't go in the table? Tedying ( talk) 19:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey guys.
If you see unsourced material in here that isn't outrageous or defamatory -- in this case, the Top 13 guest performances -- don't forget that it's usually better to find a source and add it rather than just deleting material. Thanks. — Bdb484 ( talk) 16:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
How do people know for sure that Anoop Desai was the thirteenth contestant. for all we know, it could have been matt, jasmine, or megan that the judges were disagreeing on, and if you go to mjsbigblog.com there's an article there about how kara said that matt, jasmine, and megan were easy to pick, but jasmine was the one they were unsure about. 75.57.240.173 ( talk) 00:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Misleading as it may be, we will probably never know for sure who the judges were on the fence about, which led to them picking a top 13. So by default, we almost have to consider Anoop the "13th pick" just by virtue of when he was announced. Cespence17 ( talk) 12:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me.... Paula quoted that all the panel agreed on Anoop and Matt and that they agreed on one girl. Kara said that they all agreed on Matt, Anoop and Megan. So Jasmine was the 13th pick. ... Frazzler9 ( talk) 18:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me, Ryan Seacrest said yesterday that Michael and Alexis were the Bottom 2. Is it possible that we can bring that back with just palegoldenrod colored ||bgcolor="palegoldenrod"|Btm 3 and ||bgcolor="palegoldenrod"|Btm 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by JPSinger45 ( talk • contribs) 15:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It looks like they're not revealing the bottom 3 anymore, but rather bringing down 2 random contestants (one to be eliminated). In that case, the chart is basically just a progressive chart of elimination dates, which wouldn't be necessary. Also, take this for what you want in case it becomes an issue, but Jorge is 13th place and Jasmine is 12th. They said between Jorge and Anoop that one of them had the lowest number of votes. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 02:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks like I spoke too soon after all. It hadn't crossed my mind that maybe they didn't do bottom 3 last week because of the double elimination. Sorry about that. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 02:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Frazzler9 has started adding "F" for performed first and "P" for pimp spot because of perceived advantage for those who are "freshest" in mind (e.g. performed last=pimp spot) and perceived disadvantage for those who performed first. Is this relevant for an encyclopedia? It seems much like the dreadful "Saved Last" wars from before. By the time the season is over, these will not be relevant or interesting. I suggest that this be removed from the chart. Tedying ( talk) 20:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Guys, it's stated here about Kris Allen that: "He is married and was a newlywed of 5 months when he auditioned for the show."
I think he has been married for five months NOW, not by the time he auditioned which was around July or August last year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.124.19.123 ( talk) 08:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone find it objectionable that this one contestant had her page deleted, but all the other ones remain in tact? There is no reason to delete any of these articles, as this has been standard practice to have individual pages for all of the finalists. Why change now?
I recreated the page after it was deleted, but I'm having difficulty keeping it up and running. Could anyone else back me up on the significance of these pages, or help me figure out what I need to do in order to combat this deletion war?-- Cinemaniac86 Oy_gevalt. 15:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm taking a mixture of positions, depending on their pre-Idol experience. Post-Idol, most of them will warrant articles though if past precedence is any indication. Anyone with releases or major experience pre-Idol should be an automatic keep, since they would probably have warranted an article even if they were eliminated earlier, as with Jackie Tohn, Von Smith and Joanna Pacitti. CrazyC83 ( talk) 18:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Using the past notability rule, Arianna Afsar probably warrants an article due to her pageantry experience, plus Hollywood cuts Danielle Roundtree (pageantry) and Frankie Jordan (old releases). There are a few other borderline cases. CrazyC83 ( talk) 12:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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Good planning adding a season that won't be notable until January, that's a good idea. To be honest I hate the whole notability rule because many interesting things aren't notable, surely we should include much more in Wikipedia than is currently included. Series premiere (remake) ( talk) 02:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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Check the semifinals list.
I thought having this section is sort of "outlawed"? Remember that this article spans only America. Why include outside broadcasts when those countries don't directly have a say in the show? - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 00:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
If possible, it's best to match the past couple of seasons' pages. It doesn't mean we can't make changes but consistency is good. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 12:10, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Can I just add Future tvshow information template in the main article? Because it is currently airing like Survivor: Tocantins and The Amazing Race 14. ApprenticeFan ( talk) 02:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Can I add the groups of the each 12 of 36 semi-finalists in three weeks like the first three seFelicia Barton Wikipedia:WikiProject Idol series some years ago that only finalists get their own Wikipedia articles (except those who had one before Idol). The names of semi-finalists are redirected back to their season, so the semi-finalist's bio in the season article is his/her Wikipedia "article", so to speak. -- RBBrittain ( talk) 05:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
While talking about the AI contestant sections, is it really necessary to label male vs. female seeing that AI is going back into open gender preliminary voting? Would save a lot of space. Plus, if people don't know if a singer is a man or woman that singer probably doesn't meet the notability standards. ( Argentak ( talk) 07:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC))
I cleaned up the lines in the chart and it was revised? why? I don't understand I made the chart look cleaner, and my reward is a revision, maybe it meets previous year's "standards" but maybe we should redo the standards to make it better, i.e. cleaner Americanedol ( talk) 02:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I think on Vote For The Worst and joesplace's blog they refer to him as "NORMUND" gentle. I'm just wondering which one's right? 24.6.187.230 ( talk) 05:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
They do that as a joke because that's the way Simon pronounces it. It is Norman, that's what it says on the nameplate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.193.229 ( talk) 22:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
The line "She has been known to create a lot of drama" seems moderately unencyclopedic to me. While she DOES seem to create a lot of drama and, to me, at least, is very unpalatable, Wikipedia is not the place to discuss it. I've removed the line.
If later someone finds a source that can verify/validate this in a more encyclopedic way, I have no problems with this being added in. Maxvip ( talk) 21:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
To me the table is inconsistant. Why are two people in this semifinal listed as eliminated and put at the bottom, and the rest are still in their spot, listed as "out"? Are the people listed as "out" going to Wildcard? There was no way of telling from tonight's show. Stjimmy61892 ( talk) 02:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Please correct the grammar on footnote regarding eliminated contestants. The verb returning should be changed to return. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blitzkreig22 ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please indicate which contestant was the top vote getter of the gender and which one was top of the rest? For some reason, I can't edit as it is semiprotected. Syjytg ( talk) 05:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, the episode is not yet broadcasted in my country, so I didn't know the info was not revealed. Syjytg ( talk) 07:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please fix the colors so they are consistent (eg, elimination colors differ) and also it is obvious which is which? 67.189.254.228 ( talk) 01:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The format for season 8 is essentially the same as that of seasons 1-3. It is NOT the same as seasons 4-7, so the chart shouldn't look like 4-7. There are no places at all for the semi-finals. People were randomly put into these groups. Being eliminated in group 1 doesn't make the people in 27th through 36th places. It simply isn't setup that way this season. They are simply eliminated in group 1, 2 or 3. And because of the new/old format, they aren't "out" or totally "eliminated". In fact, it's possible for 3 people to be picked as wild cards from group 1. We won't know for 3 more weeks. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 02:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
REGARDING THE TOP 12 FINALISTS - I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY KRIS ALLEN IS FIRST WHILE DANNY GOKEY IS LAST, THE NAMES SHOULD BE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER!!! KRIS ALLEN, DANNY GOKEY, ALEXIS GRACE, ALLISON IRAHETA, ADAM LAMBERT, THEN MICHAEL SARVER
"but Simon wasn't impressed with his outfit stating "it's all a bit geeky"" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.29.175 ( talk) 02:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Please correct his blurb it currently says he is a "church music teacher" which is wrong. Gokey is the praise and worship music director at two Faith Builders churches in Wisconsin (Beloit and Milwaukee) and he travels back and forth to Nashville where he's been recording and working on the foundation that he set up in his wife Sophia's name, Sophia's Heart Foundation. [1] [2]
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.29.175 ( talk) 03:01, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Now that Danny, Alexis and Michael are finalists, articles can be made about them, correct? Just feels weird doing it so early. :) I was ready to revert the additions to Danny's article until I went...wait. :) He's a finalist. -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 05:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Has it been clearly determined how the contestants will be chosen to participate in the wild card round? Will any contestant who wasn't picked during the inital 3 group nights be eligible to compete for a wild card spot, or only those who were next in line for a finalist position (for example, Tatiana & Anoop)? It just seems like this hasn't been clearly addressed, and the article doesn't seem to explain it either. Anyone have any further explanation? Cespence17 ( talk) 21:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
All 27 will compete. During the results show, I heard 1 in 9 shot. It means 3 out of 27. Syjytg ( talk) 05:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Revised this based on an article from 2/25/2009 that quoted an AI spokesperson. The previous procedure cited (including 4th or 5th based vote-getters and the WC round including 12 singers) was listed in this article as an Internet-based rumor that was incorrect. Citation included. Tedying ( talk) 19:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Can we mark that Jasmine, Megan, Anoop, and Matt G sang their second song in the Wild Card Round in their song lists? JPSinger45( talk) 18:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The American Idol producers forced whoever runs his fansite to shut it down. Is it because they showed the t-shirts and talked about the website on live television 'cause looking back at it, it seems like Seacrest mentioned it first, and the producers said it gives him unfair advantage when it's clear that Danny Gokey has been pimped so much and has a bunch of fansites (don't get me wrong, this isn't something against Gokey). Does this count as a Controversy or is it not Notable enough? 75.57.240.173 ( talk) 02:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
The information provided about Jorge Nuñez is incorrect. He is a 21 year old from Cidra, Puerto Rico. He was born on October 1, 1987 at Caguas, Puerto Rico. Although he resides in Carolina for college reasons, he is naturally from Cidra. If anyone can change the old and incorrect information with this new one I'll be thanking you a whole lot and happy at the same time.
Arab? Bengali? Filipino? Take your pick and get on with it. Unless there is a source that proves any of these, they should be removed. 23prootiecute
Where does one find corroborating sources for the birth dates listed in the article? Every search I've run (granted, I've only run a few of the names, but still) comes up with either irrelevant results (person w/same name) or just Wikipedia and sites that use Wikipedia as a source. Can these dates be verified? If not, I think we should remove them and only mention their age per americanidol.com. Hermione 1980 23:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Nooo... not playing that game. You people update this article often enough, so you ought to post when people are eliminated. At any rate, Adam is out, fucker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSHm4x4TGk Sorry it burns you up to hear it. Deal with it. And seeing him on the show tonight answers my question (which you apparently had a hard time doing). -- 24.21.148.212 ( talk) 05:53, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
1) Youtube is not a reliable source, 2) Adam just performed last night and we haven't even had the results show yet, 3) Even if he didn't make it through last night, he still has a chance to come back for the wildcard round. So unless you're clairvoyant or work for Goldman-Sachs (the company that tallies the votes), you don't know what you're talking about. Cespence17 ( talk) 14:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Dalejenkins | 23:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Only a few finalists lack articles, and that is because they lost notability by producing nothing for a long time post-Idol. The deletion debate should be withdrawn, they will be needed no matter what and since they are in, there is no problem in having them now. CrazyC83 ( talk) 02:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
"He is probably best known for his emotional outbursts during Hollywood week." probably best known? I don't really go on wikipedia much, but i don't think this should be there 'cause it's like speculation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.240.173 ( talk) 05:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
hey! I think it is necessary to add the performance order to the finalists and others (jackie and von) who have wiki pages as done in seasons 6 + 7. I also think that a scorecard like list should be composed as done in the season 1 - 4 articles. This is helpful as it wastes less time as at the moment on the season 8 page you have to skip between the male and female semi-finalists to see which group they were in. It would also show performance order for semi finalists who don't get there own page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frazzler9 ( talk • contribs) 15:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
This Idol semi-finalist whose born Brent Keith Smith. Source: http://www.brentkeithsmith.net/ ApprenticeFan ( talk) 14:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I went back on the first three seasons' pages and abbreviated "Wild Card" to "WC" in the semifinal columns on their elimination tables, and I hope we can all agree to do the same for this season. I don't feel it is necessary to spell out the whole thing and significantly expand the columns, especially considering we abbreviate other words like "Bottom" (Btm) and "Eliminated" (Elim). The whole point of abbreviations is to cut down on table width, right? Even if someone wasn't sure what "WC" meant just looking at the table, it is conveyed in the legend. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 22:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey i think the semi final groupings should include those who make the top 12 just so it's easier to read and also should be placed in performance order... Frazzler9 ( talk) 16:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The following message has been added in the table mark-up where
Top 12 |
should be: "DO NOT ADD TOP 12 HERE. IT IS CONSIDERED VANDALISM, AND WILL BE REVERTED." Why is that and who decided that? Thats the way the season 1-3 charts present the info, I don't see why this season should be different or why updating completely relevent and necessary information would be considered vandalism. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 02:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
When will we be able to work on the three finalist that were picked tonight? Candyplatypus ( talk) 05:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
A previous precedant and a question. Firstly, we need sources for future performances on results shows. We've done this in the past as well. Why? Look at Jason Castro this year. Supposedly he was going to perform this week but he never did. There are often last minute changes such as that. So we need sources.
Secondly, what should we do with the weeks? Right now it says Top 13, Top 12, etc. Well. That can't be. :) They are going to have to boot off 2 people one of these weeks. The math just doesn't work otherwise. So maybe use dates instead? Or go back to this format? -- User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 10:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
So, it was just announced that JHud will be taping a performance this week after the Wed live performances, to be shown at some later unspecified date. [3] Is there a previously used way to notate this in the "Other Performances" since it isn't dated and can't go in the table? Tedying ( talk) 19:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey guys.
If you see unsourced material in here that isn't outrageous or defamatory -- in this case, the Top 13 guest performances -- don't forget that it's usually better to find a source and add it rather than just deleting material. Thanks. — Bdb484 ( talk) 16:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
How do people know for sure that Anoop Desai was the thirteenth contestant. for all we know, it could have been matt, jasmine, or megan that the judges were disagreeing on, and if you go to mjsbigblog.com there's an article there about how kara said that matt, jasmine, and megan were easy to pick, but jasmine was the one they were unsure about. 75.57.240.173 ( talk) 00:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Misleading as it may be, we will probably never know for sure who the judges were on the fence about, which led to them picking a top 13. So by default, we almost have to consider Anoop the "13th pick" just by virtue of when he was announced. Cespence17 ( talk) 12:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me.... Paula quoted that all the panel agreed on Anoop and Matt and that they agreed on one girl. Kara said that they all agreed on Matt, Anoop and Megan. So Jasmine was the 13th pick. ... Frazzler9 ( talk) 18:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me, Ryan Seacrest said yesterday that Michael and Alexis were the Bottom 2. Is it possible that we can bring that back with just palegoldenrod colored ||bgcolor="palegoldenrod"|Btm 3 and ||bgcolor="palegoldenrod"|Btm 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by JPSinger45 ( talk • contribs) 15:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It looks like they're not revealing the bottom 3 anymore, but rather bringing down 2 random contestants (one to be eliminated). In that case, the chart is basically just a progressive chart of elimination dates, which wouldn't be necessary. Also, take this for what you want in case it becomes an issue, but Jorge is 13th place and Jasmine is 12th. They said between Jorge and Anoop that one of them had the lowest number of votes. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 02:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks like I spoke too soon after all. It hadn't crossed my mind that maybe they didn't do bottom 3 last week because of the double elimination. Sorry about that. MarkMc1990 ( talk) 02:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Frazzler9 has started adding "F" for performed first and "P" for pimp spot because of perceived advantage for those who are "freshest" in mind (e.g. performed last=pimp spot) and perceived disadvantage for those who performed first. Is this relevant for an encyclopedia? It seems much like the dreadful "Saved Last" wars from before. By the time the season is over, these will not be relevant or interesting. I suggest that this be removed from the chart. Tedying ( talk) 20:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Guys, it's stated here about Kris Allen that: "He is married and was a newlywed of 5 months when he auditioned for the show."
I think he has been married for five months NOW, not by the time he auditioned which was around July or August last year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.124.19.123 ( talk) 08:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone find it objectionable that this one contestant had her page deleted, but all the other ones remain in tact? There is no reason to delete any of these articles, as this has been standard practice to have individual pages for all of the finalists. Why change now?
I recreated the page after it was deleted, but I'm having difficulty keeping it up and running. Could anyone else back me up on the significance of these pages, or help me figure out what I need to do in order to combat this deletion war?-- Cinemaniac86 Oy_gevalt. 15:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm taking a mixture of positions, depending on their pre-Idol experience. Post-Idol, most of them will warrant articles though if past precedence is any indication. Anyone with releases or major experience pre-Idol should be an automatic keep, since they would probably have warranted an article even if they were eliminated earlier, as with Jackie Tohn, Von Smith and Joanna Pacitti. CrazyC83 ( talk) 18:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Using the past notability rule, Arianna Afsar probably warrants an article due to her pageantry experience, plus Hollywood cuts Danielle Roundtree (pageantry) and Frankie Jordan (old releases). There are a few other borderline cases. CrazyC83 ( talk) 12:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)