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There seems to be a discrepancy in the METAR between [ Wunderground and NOAA. The Wunderground METARS consistently show visibility in the tens of thousands of metres. AFAIK, Wunderground is a RS, not sure who NOAA are or their provenance. Mjroots ( talk) 14:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
NOAA are the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, a US government agency. They are an authoritative weather source for flight operations. I don't know why the Wunderground site states RVRs in the tens of thousands, but it is incorrect. RVRs are never that high. Britney1973 ( talk) 14:49, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
METAR data may be usefull, but it makes the article hard to read and it violated wikis standards Psychocadet ( talk) 18:21, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
The METAR data makes it hard to read the article... the info should be summarized and the full metar should be cited as a source. The METAR should be removed right away. Psychocadet ( talk) 02:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
After such an incident, shouldn't AA reired the flight number? Also, I still see AA331 still scheduled to operate between MIA and KIN today and tomorrow per AA flight stats. So, shouldn't still be "is" instead of "was"? Snoozlepet ( talk) 21:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
just look at the pics... but what is the proceedure for announcing a hull loss on wp? 66.220.124.56 ( talk) 22:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a quote from the source:
DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT: damaged beyond repair On landing runway 12 at Norman Manley International Airport, the 737 ran beyond the end of the paved sur....The aft fuselage folded and the right engine seprated (sic) resulting in irrepairable (sic)damage.
That is just as good as saying, "Hull Loss".-- Hourick ( talk) 21:51, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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In fact, I have not found a single instance of an air crash article with this infobox where this works. Any help appreciated. -- Mareklug talk 00:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Normany Manley Airport is located on the Palisadoes, a thin strip of sand that separates Kingston Harbour for the Caribbean Sea. The first few miles of the road leading from Kingston proper to the airport runs along a very thin portion of the strip, like a natural causeway, where one can sea both the harbor and the Caribbean. The strip widens at the point where the airport is loscated, then narrows again for a few miles till it ends at Port Royal. As of twenty years age, the road runs along the Caribbean side of the Palisadoes past the airport on the right. Thus, unless they've re-routed the road since then, which I doubt, the airport is entirely on the harbor side of the Palisadoes. I've clarified this in the text, with a cite from the airport's website re: the airport being adjacent to the harbor. - BilCat ( talk) 22:15, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether or not the rationale holds up for using the fuzzy night time Associated Press image, but if we must use a copyright image, there are much better ones around, taken in daylight.-- Lester 06:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
No where in the article do you say the date of the crash, this should be in the summary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.186.39.214 ( talk) 15:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
For an article in Spanish, here are some news releases:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 15:46, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
This crash fails the Wikipedia is not a newspaper policy in that there is no enduring notability event. The relevant guideline is WP:EVENT and that says the event should be a "precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance", none is apparent from the article or sources; that they usually have "significant impact over a wide region, domain, or widespread societal group" again none is apparent from the article or sources. and also "Notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle." all of the sources are from the month of the incident so no on going coverage. LGA talk edits 00:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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@ Santamoly:, following our discussion, please do not re-add links Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 and AIRES Flight 8250 unless you can provide RS justifying such addition. None of the accident reports make such connection. Some speculation in an Al Jazeera documentary is not enough. However, I notice the whole Boeing/Ducommun dispute is already mentioned in the Boeing 737 NG article, and that could be expanded with also a link to the full documentary. -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 11:22, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
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There seems to be a discrepancy in the METAR between [ Wunderground and NOAA. The Wunderground METARS consistently show visibility in the tens of thousands of metres. AFAIK, Wunderground is a RS, not sure who NOAA are or their provenance. Mjroots ( talk) 14:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
NOAA are the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, a US government agency. They are an authoritative weather source for flight operations. I don't know why the Wunderground site states RVRs in the tens of thousands, but it is incorrect. RVRs are never that high. Britney1973 ( talk) 14:49, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
METAR data may be usefull, but it makes the article hard to read and it violated wikis standards Psychocadet ( talk) 18:21, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
The METAR data makes it hard to read the article... the info should be summarized and the full metar should be cited as a source. The METAR should be removed right away. Psychocadet ( talk) 02:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
After such an incident, shouldn't AA reired the flight number? Also, I still see AA331 still scheduled to operate between MIA and KIN today and tomorrow per AA flight stats. So, shouldn't still be "is" instead of "was"? Snoozlepet ( talk) 21:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
just look at the pics... but what is the proceedure for announcing a hull loss on wp? 66.220.124.56 ( talk) 22:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a quote from the source:
DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT: damaged beyond repair On landing runway 12 at Norman Manley International Airport, the 737 ran beyond the end of the paved sur....The aft fuselage folded and the right engine seprated (sic) resulting in irrepairable (sic)damage.
That is just as good as saying, "Hull Loss".-- Hourick ( talk) 21:51, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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in infobox is not displaying
In fact, I have not found a single instance of an air crash article with this infobox where this works. Any help appreciated. -- Mareklug talk 00:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Normany Manley Airport is located on the Palisadoes, a thin strip of sand that separates Kingston Harbour for the Caribbean Sea. The first few miles of the road leading from Kingston proper to the airport runs along a very thin portion of the strip, like a natural causeway, where one can sea both the harbor and the Caribbean. The strip widens at the point where the airport is loscated, then narrows again for a few miles till it ends at Port Royal. As of twenty years age, the road runs along the Caribbean side of the Palisadoes past the airport on the right. Thus, unless they've re-routed the road since then, which I doubt, the airport is entirely on the harbor side of the Palisadoes. I've clarified this in the text, with a cite from the airport's website re: the airport being adjacent to the harbor. - BilCat ( talk) 22:15, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether or not the rationale holds up for using the fuzzy night time Associated Press image, but if we must use a copyright image, there are much better ones around, taken in daylight.-- Lester 06:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
No where in the article do you say the date of the crash, this should be in the summary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.186.39.214 ( talk) 15:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
For an article in Spanish, here are some news releases:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 15:46, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
This crash fails the Wikipedia is not a newspaper policy in that there is no enduring notability event. The relevant guideline is WP:EVENT and that says the event should be a "precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance", none is apparent from the article or sources; that they usually have "significant impact over a wide region, domain, or widespread societal group" again none is apparent from the article or sources. and also "Notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle." all of the sources are from the month of the incident so no on going coverage. LGA talk edits 00:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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@ Santamoly:, following our discussion, please do not re-add links Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 and AIRES Flight 8250 unless you can provide RS justifying such addition. None of the accident reports make such connection. Some speculation in an Al Jazeera documentary is not enough. However, I notice the whole Boeing/Ducommun dispute is already mentioned in the Boeing 737 NG article, and that could be expanded with also a link to the full documentary. -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 11:22, 8 May 2019 (UTC)