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I have moved the contents of this page to Ambassador (diplomacy) because of the large numbers of Ambassador automobiles that need disambiguation: Nash Ambassador, AMC Ambassador, Hindustan Ambassador, etc.
In this case disambiguation must be done in a different way; please read the guidelines: it is the clear case of "primary topic" disambiguation. Mikkalai 18:14, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The page says:"Previously, ambassadors were known as minister..."
Lupo 08:40, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
. . . and need to be added to this article. Who wants to help expand on these topics here? -- avnative 22:47, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
I'm happy to lend a hand here. One thought, though: for these more general discussions of the work and role of senior diplomats, it might be better done in the article Head of Mission. The purpose, characteristics and duties of Ambassadors are to all intents and purposes the same as those of High Commissioners, Envoys Extraordinary and Ministers Plenipotentiary, Consuls-General, Chargés d'Affaires, etc, who are all given the generic designation of Head of Mission. The articles for each of these other terms can then be shorter and concentrate on the history and technical aspects of each title. Aliddle 17:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I need help. I got into a huge dispute with Americans over the spelling variant of "embassador". They argue that the variant is archaic and no longer in use. I recently showed them that a British writer used this spelling in 1945.
THE AUTHORSHIP OF THE WELSH EMBASSADOR LIOYD Review of English Studies.1945; os-XXI: 192-201.
http://res.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/os-XXI/83/192
Follow the debate here: http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=dictionary&msg=24080.1
I would like to know if this variant is still acceptable, and if so, in what circles? What do the Brits think? Dictionary.com says it's acceptable, but some say it isn't. They say that Dictionary.com took its source from Webster, which added archaic words no longer in use; then they argued that only foreigners use this variant of spelling - not native speakers of English. -- Anittas 17:30, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I wish I knew why the older spelling became obsolete. Someone said that in the beginning, the English tried to adopt new words from French, and so they created the word "embassador", but later changed it to ambassador. Thanks anyway! -- Anittas 22:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
there are other, less formal, but common uses of the term ambassador that could be included. calling someone from some field of study or some grouping that is famous an ambassador. 69.23.106.111 ( talk) 03:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
From the section:
Well? Where's the rest of the paragraph? — MicahBrwn ( talk) 23:31, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
The queen is an ambassador! If you want to no anything about her, she was born 21st April 1926 and her full name is Elizabeth Alexandra Mary! thanks for reading my bit about the queen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.212.24 ( talk) 16:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:) :) :) :D :D :D no upset faces :( :( :( :C :C :C :C —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.212.24 ( talk) 16:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
In section 1.0 Ambassador at large we find:
"Because 17 members of the Commonwealth of Nations have or had a common head of state, they do not exchange homosexual ambassadors, but instead have High Commissioners which represent the government, rather than the head of state.
I am an expert but I believe the Commonwealth of Nation members' High Commissioners without regard to their sexual perference.
Also, Commonwealth of Nation with their own head of state do exchange High Commissioners. The UK is now represented in Lesotho and South Africa by its High Commissioner resident in South Africa.
Tonstarr ( talk) 01:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
The Historical Use of the Word "Ambassador" should be included-
In the use of the word "Ambassador" we should include other definitions to make the purpose of this title clear. During the 17th through 19th centuries, and even to today the assumed 'title of ambassador' has several meanings not necessarily geared to the spheres of politics. It was (and is) a decorative title as well. In some cultures it was an academic rank to be assumed by a 'teacher', publicist or an administrator (Public Relations Specialist)as a formal honorary title in several diplomatic corps. Wolfgang Von Goethe, the noted writer, poet and philosopher was given the rank of "Ambassador" as a courtesy title to assist in cultural growth during the period of the early German empire. If we can look back in history (if the books still exist)we may find many noted names addressed with His Excellency, so and so- a 'flexible rank' among Knight-Baron-Count etc. In England "Ambassador" was given out as a title to those who specialized in education at one time (teachers), a minor, but something known as a courtesy title. This title still exists in some spheres of influence today as a courtesy title, rather one who is able to speak to higher authorities as well as those 'ranking' in perspective to 'noble titles'-with which the general public may have problems with- ("Ambassador"-although it is generally forgotten, and we have to go back in history to see this title- between a Esq. and -whatever title one can assume, or even assume the position of a Prince if given the authority-( a title that can leverage positions) as a substitute, if needed, an Ambassador basicly given the post-nomial "His Excellency". Of course these practices are rather rare today rather refering to governmental authority taking precidence to a need-. It was considered an 'Honorary Title' at one point, should be included in the history of the use of "Ambassador" in this section- History may be forgotten) Please research the History of the word to be presented in a way that can give this a more colorful and less gray background- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.26.174.56 ( talk) 18:40, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
"the head of a Libyan mission is a 'Secretary of the Libyan People's Bureau'." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.101.37.184 ( talk) 18:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
it appears that there is a streched picture of a skull overlaying the main picture. i did not know if that was supposed to be there, because does not look like it matches the rest of the picture. Balance of paradox ( talk) 19:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Oddly enough, that actually is in the original painting. No one's quite sure why Hans Holbein put it there - it sort of ruins the composition - but it's distorted because of a specific painting technique, and it's supposed to be a reminder of human mortality. — Preceding
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209.51.65.47 (
talk) 16:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
In the article, “the term is rooted in Mongol-Manchu word, Amban Said (Appointed Minister)” is stated very matter-of-factly. I found the origin of the word was relatively controversial, with listed origins in Old French, Italian, Middle English, Medieval Latin, and even Celtic. I’m in no position to make accusations of falsely posted information, but in such a confident statement it would be beneficial to note the source of such information. Especially when addressing this relatively debatable topic, assuming the writer has sound reasoning or strong supporting evidence to back his/her statement, readers should ideally be able to confirm the information themselves. If the writer does not have sufficient evidence to support the previous statement, he/she should consider rephrasing the statement in a way that would avoid misleading readers to take the information as a fact. It may be beneficial to expand upon the topic of origin by noting the fact that there is a level of debate on where the word’s origin lies, perhaps addressing some of these other roots. LingYao12 ( talk) 04:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
The article currently has it that "The term is derived from Middle English badassadour." Cute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.135.219 ( talk) 18:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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I have moved the contents of this page to Ambassador (diplomacy) because of the large numbers of Ambassador automobiles that need disambiguation: Nash Ambassador, AMC Ambassador, Hindustan Ambassador, etc.
In this case disambiguation must be done in a different way; please read the guidelines: it is the clear case of "primary topic" disambiguation. Mikkalai 18:14, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The page says:"Previously, ambassadors were known as minister..."
Lupo 08:40, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
. . . and need to be added to this article. Who wants to help expand on these topics here? -- avnative 22:47, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
I'm happy to lend a hand here. One thought, though: for these more general discussions of the work and role of senior diplomats, it might be better done in the article Head of Mission. The purpose, characteristics and duties of Ambassadors are to all intents and purposes the same as those of High Commissioners, Envoys Extraordinary and Ministers Plenipotentiary, Consuls-General, Chargés d'Affaires, etc, who are all given the generic designation of Head of Mission. The articles for each of these other terms can then be shorter and concentrate on the history and technical aspects of each title. Aliddle 17:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I need help. I got into a huge dispute with Americans over the spelling variant of "embassador". They argue that the variant is archaic and no longer in use. I recently showed them that a British writer used this spelling in 1945.
THE AUTHORSHIP OF THE WELSH EMBASSADOR LIOYD Review of English Studies.1945; os-XXI: 192-201.
http://res.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/os-XXI/83/192
Follow the debate here: http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=dictionary&msg=24080.1
I would like to know if this variant is still acceptable, and if so, in what circles? What do the Brits think? Dictionary.com says it's acceptable, but some say it isn't. They say that Dictionary.com took its source from Webster, which added archaic words no longer in use; then they argued that only foreigners use this variant of spelling - not native speakers of English. -- Anittas 17:30, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I wish I knew why the older spelling became obsolete. Someone said that in the beginning, the English tried to adopt new words from French, and so they created the word "embassador", but later changed it to ambassador. Thanks anyway! -- Anittas 22:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
there are other, less formal, but common uses of the term ambassador that could be included. calling someone from some field of study or some grouping that is famous an ambassador. 69.23.106.111 ( talk) 03:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
From the section:
Well? Where's the rest of the paragraph? — MicahBrwn ( talk) 23:31, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
The queen is an ambassador! If you want to no anything about her, she was born 21st April 1926 and her full name is Elizabeth Alexandra Mary! thanks for reading my bit about the queen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.212.24 ( talk) 16:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:) :) :) :D :D :D no upset faces :( :( :( :C :C :C :C —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.212.24 ( talk) 16:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
In section 1.0 Ambassador at large we find:
"Because 17 members of the Commonwealth of Nations have or had a common head of state, they do not exchange homosexual ambassadors, but instead have High Commissioners which represent the government, rather than the head of state.
I am an expert but I believe the Commonwealth of Nation members' High Commissioners without regard to their sexual perference.
Also, Commonwealth of Nation with their own head of state do exchange High Commissioners. The UK is now represented in Lesotho and South Africa by its High Commissioner resident in South Africa.
Tonstarr ( talk) 01:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
The Historical Use of the Word "Ambassador" should be included-
In the use of the word "Ambassador" we should include other definitions to make the purpose of this title clear. During the 17th through 19th centuries, and even to today the assumed 'title of ambassador' has several meanings not necessarily geared to the spheres of politics. It was (and is) a decorative title as well. In some cultures it was an academic rank to be assumed by a 'teacher', publicist or an administrator (Public Relations Specialist)as a formal honorary title in several diplomatic corps. Wolfgang Von Goethe, the noted writer, poet and philosopher was given the rank of "Ambassador" as a courtesy title to assist in cultural growth during the period of the early German empire. If we can look back in history (if the books still exist)we may find many noted names addressed with His Excellency, so and so- a 'flexible rank' among Knight-Baron-Count etc. In England "Ambassador" was given out as a title to those who specialized in education at one time (teachers), a minor, but something known as a courtesy title. This title still exists in some spheres of influence today as a courtesy title, rather one who is able to speak to higher authorities as well as those 'ranking' in perspective to 'noble titles'-with which the general public may have problems with- ("Ambassador"-although it is generally forgotten, and we have to go back in history to see this title- between a Esq. and -whatever title one can assume, or even assume the position of a Prince if given the authority-( a title that can leverage positions) as a substitute, if needed, an Ambassador basicly given the post-nomial "His Excellency". Of course these practices are rather rare today rather refering to governmental authority taking precidence to a need-. It was considered an 'Honorary Title' at one point, should be included in the history of the use of "Ambassador" in this section- History may be forgotten) Please research the History of the word to be presented in a way that can give this a more colorful and less gray background- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.26.174.56 ( talk) 18:40, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
"the head of a Libyan mission is a 'Secretary of the Libyan People's Bureau'." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.101.37.184 ( talk) 18:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
it appears that there is a streched picture of a skull overlaying the main picture. i did not know if that was supposed to be there, because does not look like it matches the rest of the picture. Balance of paradox ( talk) 19:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Oddly enough, that actually is in the original painting. No one's quite sure why Hans Holbein put it there - it sort of ruins the composition - but it's distorted because of a specific painting technique, and it's supposed to be a reminder of human mortality. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
209.51.65.47 (
talk) 16:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
In the article, “the term is rooted in Mongol-Manchu word, Amban Said (Appointed Minister)” is stated very matter-of-factly. I found the origin of the word was relatively controversial, with listed origins in Old French, Italian, Middle English, Medieval Latin, and even Celtic. I’m in no position to make accusations of falsely posted information, but in such a confident statement it would be beneficial to note the source of such information. Especially when addressing this relatively debatable topic, assuming the writer has sound reasoning or strong supporting evidence to back his/her statement, readers should ideally be able to confirm the information themselves. If the writer does not have sufficient evidence to support the previous statement, he/she should consider rephrasing the statement in a way that would avoid misleading readers to take the information as a fact. It may be beneficial to expand upon the topic of origin by noting the fact that there is a level of debate on where the word’s origin lies, perhaps addressing some of these other roots. LingYao12 ( talk) 04:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
The article currently has it that "The term is derived from Middle English badassadour." Cute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.135.219 ( talk) 18:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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