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This article equates difference in bitrates as being directly related to quality accross different codecs, which may be incorrect if amazon is using a codec with better compression than the dvd video standard codecs. Perhaps the video quality is similar to dvd? Also, it seems to suggest that a 4.7 gig dvd disc is the standard for video releases which may not be true. 137.112.248.222 ( talk) 03:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
My edit wasn't the best, but I thought people should know how absolutely pitiful the download speeds have been. I downloaded a vid right after it was released at 160 kb/s, which isn't bad, but by today (9/11) download speeds were at 17kb/s. Took me all day to download a single episode of chappelles show. -- Karafias 04:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
There is a "Watch Now" button. I tried it with standard DSL. The movie paused every 15 to 20 seconds, then hung completely after 25 minutes. And you can't change your mind and try to download after pressing "Watch Now" unless you buy it again! Total rip-off. Physicsjock ( talk) 03:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Can someone find some good documentation on the ports used by Unbox? I traded a (now lost) email with their customer support where they claimed that they are only using TCP Ports 80 and 443 for outgoing connections. It'd be nice to find it published some place so that it is verifiable. Also, their videos do play in Windows Media Player as they appear to be standard WMV encodes (with DRM, of course). GulDan 07:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Whould the size of the .NET framework even be mentioned? 24MB is like pissing in the ocean considering the service is used for downloading movies in sizes in the 2-3GB range.
81.233.73.177/Håkan (2006-10-31)
Cleaned up on the recent critique to try to make it more NPOV. Unfortunately, critique are, almost by their nature, not NPOV. This doesn't mean that I'm objecting to this section's presence, more just noting it it is more difficult for all involved (myself included) to edit correctly. I removed some factual inaccuracies. The .Net framework is 24MB, not 80 something (and whether it is cruft is definitely opinion). There are menus (in the upper right and context). You are able to manage download order as well as add and remove things from your download queue through the application. The only thing that I can find that you can't do through the application is pausing all downloads (which is done through right-clicking the systray icon (as noted by the editor)). Finally, if the player says in the EULA that it communicates with the service, can it truly be said to be secret? Yes it communicates (and that should be noted in the criticism), but I'm not sure if the word "secret" is applicable. (To be open, I have a generally positive slant on Unbox, use it commonly and like it. Because of this, I try to limit my edits to strictly factual stuff and no opinion, even neutral.) GulDan 06:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid criticism is criticism. I really wanted to find some old episodes of Wild on E! (because hey, that's all I've done every summer, stay up late until they came on at 2a.m., but they're off the air now) and Unbox had them, so I was eager to give it a try. Before I did, I looked up everything I could find about it, and much to my dismay, I couldn't find a single positive review, just a "two thumbs down". Reading this article made it sound like the technology was spot-on, and I guess it should 'theoretically' work, but apparently it doesn't. Zchris87v 04:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
White, could you explain how you think it's covered? I think you are confusing two different issues. -- 206.79.158.100 18:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is true in regards to Linux because Tivo's software itself is a Linux app supporting Win DRM. A user would just need to install Tivo's OS on their Linux machine. -- Ephilei 05:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Effective today the name of this service is Amazon Video on Demand. The Unbox name lives on only as the name of the player application which is now optional. The default is to stream in a browser with Flash regardless of client OS. White 720 ( talk) 14:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Should a lot of this stuff still be here? For instance, complaints about the first version of the program that no longer exist are a bit silly. Also, the statements that Unbox only plays on machines with Microsoft DRM, and that it only works on PlayForSure devices are a bit redundant. Those statements also don't belong in the criticism section, considering that neither the iTunes or iTunes Store articles even have a criticism section, let alone one which mentions Apple's draconian DRM. Slow load times two years ago? I think that's a bit moot now. And overall, the DRM argument is moot now that the Video On Demand service is up and running. I'm going to cut a lot of this out. Dlmccaslin ( talk) 16:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
There's one additional thing that wasn't mentioned: if you disable the service from starting with Windows, you cannot start or run the program *at all* in non-admin accounts. SharkD ( talk) 03:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It was last updated over a year ago. There is also an excess of references to "Unbox," which is a brand Amazon retired long ago. Amazon Instant Video is a hugely important product because it has by far the largest library of movies available for online viewing (through Prime, rental, or purchase). If you're a serious movie buff who primarly watches films online, you know Amazon blows Netflix out of the water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.95.47 ( talk) 02:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi I vote against merging Amazon Instant Video UK with Amazon Instant Video. Because the uk version has a slightly different name and it would be better to keep the us and German version seperated to the uk one we should also create the German one. And it says here the name of the uk version of amazon instant video uk https://mobile.twitter.com/AmazonVideoUK 176.250.150.202 ( talk) 18:36, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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Amazon Instant Video is available on many compatible devices and platforms. All platforms support watching titles with Amazon Instant Video. Prime Instant Video (titles included with an Amazon Prime membership) isn’t available on Amazon Unbox Player [1] and TiVo [2].
Supported web browsers by platform:
A software application is also available for Windows computers.
Amazon Instant Video is offered as an app on late model TVs [27]</nowiki> and Blu-ray players [28]. These include Sony BRAVIA TVs [29] (announced September 3, 2008) [30], Samsung Smart TVs through the Samsung Apps Service [31], LG [32], Vizio [33], Panasonic VIERA TVs [34] (announced April 21, 2009) [35], and select devices using Google TV and Yahoo! Widgets.
Customers can watch Amazon Instant Video titles on popular game consoles [36], including the following:
A complete list of compatible devices appears on the Amazon.com website. [50]
Amazon Instant Video is primarily an online streaming service, which requires an active Internet connection. However, some devices with internal storage are permitted to download titles that have been rented or bought, and then viewed while the device is offline. [51]</nowiki> This includes all versions of the Kindle Fire; Amazon Unbox for PC computers; iOS devices; and TiVo Series 2 and Series 3 DVRs, except those made for use with DirecTV (DirecTiVo).
In addition, titles included at no additional charge with Prime Instant Video — for customers with an Amazon Prime membership — can be downloaded on 2nd generation Kindle Fire (2013) and Kindle Fire HDX (2013) devices. [52]</nowiki>
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dulceandellie ( talk • contribs) 18:06, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello!
Thank you to everyone who contributed to this article. I believe this page can benefit from an additional section of Amazon Original Content (A List is necessary) as well as how Amazon Video is doing compared to other video subscription services (like HBO, Netflix, Hulu). Also, there might be issues regarding the references chosen as many are from articles with more of an opinion-related tone. Does Amazon Video focus on creating original content or partnerships with HBO (as mentioned in the first paragraph). Who originally came up with the idea of Amazon Video (No mention of original creator)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenml424 ( talk • contribs) 03:07, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Today I found out what the difference is between Amazon Video and Prime video.
They are basically the Amazon equivalent of BBC One and BBC Two yet when you click on Prime video it redirects to Amazon Video when they should be seperate.
This section - /info/en/?search=Amazon_Prime#Prime_Video says:
The service debuted on September 7, 2006 as Amazon Unbox in the United States. On September 4, 2008, the service was renamed Amazon Video on Demand. The Unbox name still refers to the local program, which as of August 2014 is no longer available for downloading purchased instant videos. On February 22, 2011, the service rebranded as Amazon Instant Video and added access to 5,000 movies and TV shows for Amazon Prime members.
^ A statement which is talking about Amazon Video not Prime Video
It's clear from looking at the website they are still separate things.
Amazon Exclusives are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on a network/channel/service that has nothing to do with Amazon.
Prime Exclusives are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on a network/channel/service that has nothing to do with Amazon.
Amazon Originals are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on Amazon Video.
Prime Originals are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on Prime video.
Prime Video originals seem to be mainly shows for adults, whereas the Amazon Video originals seem to be mainly shows for kids, therefore there's still a clear distinction between them, and should be separated imo. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/storefront/ref=sv_atv_0?ie=UTF8&merchId=Originals
Basically they'll play some, but not all Prime Video originals on Amazon Video, the same way BBC Two shows occasionally get played on BBC One.
Question Time
1 - Why have 'Amazon Video' and 'Prime Video' been merged?
2 - Can someone separate them and fix them?
3 - Why is the paragraph for 'Prime Video' on the Amazon Prime page talking about 'Amazon Video' rather than 'Prime Video'?
4 - Why are 'Prime Video' originals mixed together with 'Amazon Video' originals here, List of original programs distributed by Amazon and can they be separated?
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Danstarr69 ( talk) 17:39, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 20:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Prime Video →
Amazon Prime Video – The correct name is Amazon Prime Video.
SportsFan007 (
talk)
06:46, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
The article in several places uses the term "Amazon Video", but doesn't explain what that is, or what its relationship to "Amazon Prime Video", aka "Prime Video" is. The term isn't bolded in the introduction - is it a synonym? This page: [9], cited in the article, seems to indicate that it is not the same thing as "Amazon Prime Video", i.e., not just a short form of the name, but an actual separate thing with its own logo. But the article seems to use the terms interchangeably. For example, it says "On December 14, 2016, Amazon Video launched worldwide" - does that mean Prime Video launched worldwide, or something else? It would be great if someone who knows could try to clarify the article, because I'm not able to understand it the way it is written now. Thanks. -- IamNotU ( talk) 01:16, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
In each country or territory which languages in either subtitles or dub are available for users to use? I mean is everything in each place, unless they are officially multilingual, just in one language or are some programs in different languages? How is this info found? --
sion8
talk page
06:08, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
This article equates difference in bitrates as being directly related to quality accross different codecs, which may be incorrect if amazon is using a codec with better compression than the dvd video standard codecs. Perhaps the video quality is similar to dvd? Also, it seems to suggest that a 4.7 gig dvd disc is the standard for video releases which may not be true. 137.112.248.222 ( talk) 03:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
My edit wasn't the best, but I thought people should know how absolutely pitiful the download speeds have been. I downloaded a vid right after it was released at 160 kb/s, which isn't bad, but by today (9/11) download speeds were at 17kb/s. Took me all day to download a single episode of chappelles show. -- Karafias 04:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
There is a "Watch Now" button. I tried it with standard DSL. The movie paused every 15 to 20 seconds, then hung completely after 25 minutes. And you can't change your mind and try to download after pressing "Watch Now" unless you buy it again! Total rip-off. Physicsjock ( talk) 03:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Can someone find some good documentation on the ports used by Unbox? I traded a (now lost) email with their customer support where they claimed that they are only using TCP Ports 80 and 443 for outgoing connections. It'd be nice to find it published some place so that it is verifiable. Also, their videos do play in Windows Media Player as they appear to be standard WMV encodes (with DRM, of course). GulDan 07:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Whould the size of the .NET framework even be mentioned? 24MB is like pissing in the ocean considering the service is used for downloading movies in sizes in the 2-3GB range.
81.233.73.177/Håkan (2006-10-31)
Cleaned up on the recent critique to try to make it more NPOV. Unfortunately, critique are, almost by their nature, not NPOV. This doesn't mean that I'm objecting to this section's presence, more just noting it it is more difficult for all involved (myself included) to edit correctly. I removed some factual inaccuracies. The .Net framework is 24MB, not 80 something (and whether it is cruft is definitely opinion). There are menus (in the upper right and context). You are able to manage download order as well as add and remove things from your download queue through the application. The only thing that I can find that you can't do through the application is pausing all downloads (which is done through right-clicking the systray icon (as noted by the editor)). Finally, if the player says in the EULA that it communicates with the service, can it truly be said to be secret? Yes it communicates (and that should be noted in the criticism), but I'm not sure if the word "secret" is applicable. (To be open, I have a generally positive slant on Unbox, use it commonly and like it. Because of this, I try to limit my edits to strictly factual stuff and no opinion, even neutral.) GulDan 06:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid criticism is criticism. I really wanted to find some old episodes of Wild on E! (because hey, that's all I've done every summer, stay up late until they came on at 2a.m., but they're off the air now) and Unbox had them, so I was eager to give it a try. Before I did, I looked up everything I could find about it, and much to my dismay, I couldn't find a single positive review, just a "two thumbs down". Reading this article made it sound like the technology was spot-on, and I guess it should 'theoretically' work, but apparently it doesn't. Zchris87v 04:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
White, could you explain how you think it's covered? I think you are confusing two different issues. -- 206.79.158.100 18:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is true in regards to Linux because Tivo's software itself is a Linux app supporting Win DRM. A user would just need to install Tivo's OS on their Linux machine. -- Ephilei 05:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Effective today the name of this service is Amazon Video on Demand. The Unbox name lives on only as the name of the player application which is now optional. The default is to stream in a browser with Flash regardless of client OS. White 720 ( talk) 14:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Should a lot of this stuff still be here? For instance, complaints about the first version of the program that no longer exist are a bit silly. Also, the statements that Unbox only plays on machines with Microsoft DRM, and that it only works on PlayForSure devices are a bit redundant. Those statements also don't belong in the criticism section, considering that neither the iTunes or iTunes Store articles even have a criticism section, let alone one which mentions Apple's draconian DRM. Slow load times two years ago? I think that's a bit moot now. And overall, the DRM argument is moot now that the Video On Demand service is up and running. I'm going to cut a lot of this out. Dlmccaslin ( talk) 16:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
There's one additional thing that wasn't mentioned: if you disable the service from starting with Windows, you cannot start or run the program *at all* in non-admin accounts. SharkD ( talk) 03:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It was last updated over a year ago. There is also an excess of references to "Unbox," which is a brand Amazon retired long ago. Amazon Instant Video is a hugely important product because it has by far the largest library of movies available for online viewing (through Prime, rental, or purchase). If you're a serious movie buff who primarly watches films online, you know Amazon blows Netflix out of the water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.95.47 ( talk) 02:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi I vote against merging Amazon Instant Video UK with Amazon Instant Video. Because the uk version has a slightly different name and it would be better to keep the us and German version seperated to the uk one we should also create the German one. And it says here the name of the uk version of amazon instant video uk https://mobile.twitter.com/AmazonVideoUK 176.250.150.202 ( talk) 18:36, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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See IP's rationale. I agree. CorporateM ( Talk) 02:09, 18 October 2014 (UTC)}}
Amazon Instant Video is available on many compatible devices and platforms. All platforms support watching titles with Amazon Instant Video. Prime Instant Video (titles included with an Amazon Prime membership) isn’t available on Amazon Unbox Player [1] and TiVo [2].
Supported web browsers by platform:
A software application is also available for Windows computers.
Amazon Instant Video is offered as an app on late model TVs [27]</nowiki> and Blu-ray players [28]. These include Sony BRAVIA TVs [29] (announced September 3, 2008) [30], Samsung Smart TVs through the Samsung Apps Service [31], LG [32], Vizio [33], Panasonic VIERA TVs [34] (announced April 21, 2009) [35], and select devices using Google TV and Yahoo! Widgets.
Customers can watch Amazon Instant Video titles on popular game consoles [36], including the following:
A complete list of compatible devices appears on the Amazon.com website. [50]
Amazon Instant Video is primarily an online streaming service, which requires an active Internet connection. However, some devices with internal storage are permitted to download titles that have been rented or bought, and then viewed while the device is offline. [51]</nowiki> This includes all versions of the Kindle Fire; Amazon Unbox for PC computers; iOS devices; and TiVo Series 2 and Series 3 DVRs, except those made for use with DirecTV (DirecTiVo).
In addition, titles included at no additional charge with Prime Instant Video — for customers with an Amazon Prime membership — can be downloaded on 2nd generation Kindle Fire (2013) and Kindle Fire HDX (2013) devices. [52]</nowiki>
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dulceandellie ( talk • contribs) 18:06, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello!
Thank you to everyone who contributed to this article. I believe this page can benefit from an additional section of Amazon Original Content (A List is necessary) as well as how Amazon Video is doing compared to other video subscription services (like HBO, Netflix, Hulu). Also, there might be issues regarding the references chosen as many are from articles with more of an opinion-related tone. Does Amazon Video focus on creating original content or partnerships with HBO (as mentioned in the first paragraph). Who originally came up with the idea of Amazon Video (No mention of original creator)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenml424 ( talk • contribs) 03:07, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Today I found out what the difference is between Amazon Video and Prime video.
They are basically the Amazon equivalent of BBC One and BBC Two yet when you click on Prime video it redirects to Amazon Video when they should be seperate.
This section - /info/en/?search=Amazon_Prime#Prime_Video says:
The service debuted on September 7, 2006 as Amazon Unbox in the United States. On September 4, 2008, the service was renamed Amazon Video on Demand. The Unbox name still refers to the local program, which as of August 2014 is no longer available for downloading purchased instant videos. On February 22, 2011, the service rebranded as Amazon Instant Video and added access to 5,000 movies and TV shows for Amazon Prime members.
^ A statement which is talking about Amazon Video not Prime Video
It's clear from looking at the website they are still separate things.
Amazon Exclusives are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on a network/channel/service that has nothing to do with Amazon.
Prime Exclusives are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on a network/channel/service that has nothing to do with Amazon.
Amazon Originals are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on Amazon Video.
Prime Originals are TV Shows/Films which were originally broadcast on Prime video.
Prime Video originals seem to be mainly shows for adults, whereas the Amazon Video originals seem to be mainly shows for kids, therefore there's still a clear distinction between them, and should be separated imo. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/storefront/ref=sv_atv_0?ie=UTF8&merchId=Originals
Basically they'll play some, but not all Prime Video originals on Amazon Video, the same way BBC Two shows occasionally get played on BBC One.
Question Time
1 - Why have 'Amazon Video' and 'Prime Video' been merged?
2 - Can someone separate them and fix them?
3 - Why is the paragraph for 'Prime Video' on the Amazon Prime page talking about 'Amazon Video' rather than 'Prime Video'?
4 - Why are 'Prime Video' originals mixed together with 'Amazon Video' originals here, List of original programs distributed by Amazon and can they be separated?
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Danstarr69 ( talk) 17:39, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 20:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Prime Video →
Amazon Prime Video – The correct name is Amazon Prime Video.
SportsFan007 (
talk)
06:46, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
The article in several places uses the term "Amazon Video", but doesn't explain what that is, or what its relationship to "Amazon Prime Video", aka "Prime Video" is. The term isn't bolded in the introduction - is it a synonym? This page: [9], cited in the article, seems to indicate that it is not the same thing as "Amazon Prime Video", i.e., not just a short form of the name, but an actual separate thing with its own logo. But the article seems to use the terms interchangeably. For example, it says "On December 14, 2016, Amazon Video launched worldwide" - does that mean Prime Video launched worldwide, or something else? It would be great if someone who knows could try to clarify the article, because I'm not able to understand it the way it is written now. Thanks. -- IamNotU ( talk) 01:16, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
In each country or territory which languages in either subtitles or dub are available for users to use? I mean is everything in each place, unless they are officially multilingual, just in one language or are some programs in different languages? How is this info found? --
sion8
talk page
06:08, 13 June 2019 (UTC)