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This is patently obvious when viewing the article. I think we should look to rename the article. Turtlescrubber 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Here's a link where the excreble Ms. Marcotte calls herself a feminist: http://feministblogs.org/author/amanda-marcotte/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucifer Ratcliffe ( talk • contribs) 04:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Another ed has removed this sourced material with the justification of making the article more balanced. This reflects a basic misunderstanding – "balance" means the article generally reflects what is contained within the broader world of secondary WP:RS, not that if the article says something negative, it must also say something positive so that we're not being mean. For the record, I'm a completely disinterested editor. I've never read anything authored by Marcotte, nor am I familiar with any of her work. However, I have reverted vandalism on this article from time to time. That being said, there is a fairly vast body of secondary sources on Marcotte, most of which seems to be of the nature of the sources I recently added (but which have been deleted). In perusing the record, it seems there is a long-standing tendency to sanitize information such as this from the article. Please let us have an article that reflects the available sources. Agricola44 ( talk) 23:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC).
As far as I can tell, she has not contributed to the Guardian since October 2013. Perhaps the article should reflect this. SheepOG ( talk) 10:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I see this quote of Marcotte's characterization of defenders of the accused Duke rapists has been removed at least once before and now again after my recent edit. I've restored it with an additional source. Here is the context for the quote:
People who continue to wax on about the Duke rape case: People don’t respond because you’re right. (sic) They don’t respond because they know from experience that anyone who defends men who write thing like this:
tommrow night, after tonights show, ive decided to have some strippers over to edens 2c. all are welcome.. however there will be no nudity. i plan on killing the bitches as soon as the walk in and proceding to cut their skin off while cumming in my duke issue spandex.. all besides arch and tack please respond
Hates women and would defend a rapist who was caught in the act on videotape. No one talks to you because you are rape-loving scum. If you think otherwise, you are mistaken. Your beloved boys who scream “nigger” at black women and joke about killing and raping them may escape the worst charges, but they are not angels. You know it, we know it. That you defend them makes you such lowly, sleazy scum that it’s no wonder no one talks to you. They’re afraid by acknowledging you, they will catch the evil. Know this. Absorb it. Hope you enjoy sleeping at night, you sick, hateful bastards.
I don't think there's a question as to whether she wrote it, only possibly her target and intent - which we now we have two secondary sources for. More broadly I think not including it is a problem - we say she made controversial statements which led to her resignation but don't explain what they were. The one we do relate is in bad taste but obviously sarcastic and not unexpected from a controversial feminist blogger. As someone unfamiliar with her statements prior to reading the article I was confused about the controversy and left to dig through the sources myself to make sense of it. James J. Lambden ( talk) 15:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
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This is patently obvious when viewing the article. I think we should look to rename the article. Turtlescrubber 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Here's a link where the excreble Ms. Marcotte calls herself a feminist: http://feministblogs.org/author/amanda-marcotte/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucifer Ratcliffe ( talk • contribs) 04:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Another ed has removed this sourced material with the justification of making the article more balanced. This reflects a basic misunderstanding – "balance" means the article generally reflects what is contained within the broader world of secondary WP:RS, not that if the article says something negative, it must also say something positive so that we're not being mean. For the record, I'm a completely disinterested editor. I've never read anything authored by Marcotte, nor am I familiar with any of her work. However, I have reverted vandalism on this article from time to time. That being said, there is a fairly vast body of secondary sources on Marcotte, most of which seems to be of the nature of the sources I recently added (but which have been deleted). In perusing the record, it seems there is a long-standing tendency to sanitize information such as this from the article. Please let us have an article that reflects the available sources. Agricola44 ( talk) 23:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC).
As far as I can tell, she has not contributed to the Guardian since October 2013. Perhaps the article should reflect this. SheepOG ( talk) 10:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I see this quote of Marcotte's characterization of defenders of the accused Duke rapists has been removed at least once before and now again after my recent edit. I've restored it with an additional source. Here is the context for the quote:
People who continue to wax on about the Duke rape case: People don’t respond because you’re right. (sic) They don’t respond because they know from experience that anyone who defends men who write thing like this:
tommrow night, after tonights show, ive decided to have some strippers over to edens 2c. all are welcome.. however there will be no nudity. i plan on killing the bitches as soon as the walk in and proceding to cut their skin off while cumming in my duke issue spandex.. all besides arch and tack please respond
Hates women and would defend a rapist who was caught in the act on videotape. No one talks to you because you are rape-loving scum. If you think otherwise, you are mistaken. Your beloved boys who scream “nigger” at black women and joke about killing and raping them may escape the worst charges, but they are not angels. You know it, we know it. That you defend them makes you such lowly, sleazy scum that it’s no wonder no one talks to you. They’re afraid by acknowledging you, they will catch the evil. Know this. Absorb it. Hope you enjoy sleeping at night, you sick, hateful bastards.
I don't think there's a question as to whether she wrote it, only possibly her target and intent - which we now we have two secondary sources for. More broadly I think not including it is a problem - we say she made controversial statements which led to her resignation but don't explain what they were. The one we do relate is in bad taste but obviously sarcastic and not unexpected from a controversial feminist blogger. As someone unfamiliar with her statements prior to reading the article I was confused about the controversy and left to dig through the sources myself to make sense of it. James J. Lambden ( talk) 15:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
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