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I'm trying to decide when to go for GA again for this article. I think it mostly meets the criteria, since it has been largely reorganized and has a good amount of reference citations. Although I am still concerned over the fact that most of the citations are from APO sources, and not independent ones, a concern which was brought up during the reassessment when it was ultimately delisted. Any thoughts? Dr. Cash ( talk) 17:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed a deletion of an APO userbox (not the one advertised here, a different one under WikiProject Scouting). Please discuss there. Justinm1978 ( talk) 17:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if this list is appropriate in this article at present or not, or what form it should take? With the new policy in force after the 2006 convention, the all-male chapters will either have to go co-ed, or disband. So ultimately, there will be no all-male chapters left in APO (except for the unique case of the all-male school, Wabash College, but they're not on the list in this article). So, as far as the maintenance of this article is concerned, we have a few options:
I'm leaning towards the second option above, since it preserves the history and contributes to telling the story of APO's transition from an all-male fraternity to a co-ed one, and doesn't just erase the last remaining all-male chapters from history entirely.
In somewhat related news, I have heard from reliable, yet unpublished sources in Region V that the Sigma Xi chapter at Maine will be disbanding at its section conference, and starting a new service organization. Also, the Chi Pi chapter at Duquesne announced at the section 65/66 conference this past weekend that its intention is to transition prior to the deadline, but also asked chapters to respect its right to privacy so that the don't get bombarded with too many offers of assistance from every chapter nearby, which could get a bit overwhelming. Their statements at the conference were well-received with understanding by the students and the staff present, however. Dr. Cash ( talk) 19:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)`
Number of active chapters 363. School (Region/Section)
Petition Groups: 12 Alabama State University (IV/69) Emporia State University (VIII/34) Ivy Tech Community College (VI/31) Regent University (III/83) Salisbury University (III/85) San Diego State University (X/2) St. Augustine's College (III/80) St. Anselm College (I/94) Tarrant County College -Southeast (VII/41) University of Illinois at Springfield (VI/47) University of Maryland - Baltimore County (III/86) University of the Redlands (X/2)
Interest Groups: 17 California State University, Fullerton (X/2) Centenary College (I/99) Defiance College (V/56) Harold Washington College (VI/51) Midwestern State University (VII/41) Montclair State University (I/99) North Western Michigan College (VI/53) Parkland College (VI/50) Pennsylvania State University Altoona College (II/90) Tulane Univ of Louisiana (VII/45) University of Miami (VI/71) University of Nevada, Las Vegas (X/2) University of Texas at Tyler (VII/41) University of the District of Columbia (III/85) Wayland Baptist University (VII/40) Western Connecticut State University (I/96) Winona State University (IX/23) Naraht ( talk) 16:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Changes as of 4 June
Petitioning Groups (13) +California State University, Fullerton (X/2) -San Diego State University (X/2) (chartered) +Tulane University of Louisiana(VII/45)
Interest Groups (16) -Tulane University of Louisiana (VII/45) to PG +Brookhaven College (VII/41) -California State University, Fullerton (X/2) to PG -Centenary College (I/99) +Elizabeth City State University (III/80) +Pennsylvania State University Beaver (V/65) -University of Miami (IV/71)
For those that don't use userboxes, and as part of the Keep it Simple project, I've created an APO user label.
You can get
by adding {{ WP:KIS/Alpha Phi Omega}} to your user page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gogobera ( talk • contribs)
The following exists in the current article.
This "gentleman's agreement" was formalized in the by-laws at the 1998 Convention:
and was changed by a IP address user to "formalized in a resolution at the 1998 Convention."
This actually sounds more likely. It isn't actually *in* the bylaws anywhere... Naraht ( talk) 02:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
If a page hasn't been created for Dr. Ureta by Tuesday morning (June 24th), I'll get rid of the link myself. Adding the middle initial seems OK, but it should be consistent across this article and the APO-Phil president's template. Naraht ( talk) 20:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Can we move discussion about which way that should be to the talk page? I'm seeing it both ways on the national website. It has all of the capitalization in the pledge manual and the Fact Sheet ( http://www.apo.org/site/site_files/APO_YSO_Info_Sheet.pdf). On the National bylaws page ( http://www.apo.org/site/site_files/APO_National_Bylaws_2-07.pdf), when it is Article II in the bylaws, it has the same capitalization as the pledge manual, however in the Articles of Incorporation, most of the same phrasing is in lower case except for Scout, Oath, Law, Boy Scouts and America. I guess the ultimate source should be Article II of the bylaws which is where it is legally set for the purposes of the Fraternity, which means the extra capitalization. Ideas? Naraht ( talk) 07:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Justinm1978 ( talk) 14:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Should we change the reference to the National Bylaws then as a more direct example? Naraht ( talk) 19:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I'm trying to decide when to go for GA again for this article. I think it mostly meets the criteria, since it has been largely reorganized and has a good amount of reference citations. Although I am still concerned over the fact that most of the citations are from APO sources, and not independent ones, a concern which was brought up during the reassessment when it was ultimately delisted. Any thoughts? Dr. Cash ( talk) 17:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed a deletion of an APO userbox (not the one advertised here, a different one under WikiProject Scouting). Please discuss there. Justinm1978 ( talk) 17:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if this list is appropriate in this article at present or not, or what form it should take? With the new policy in force after the 2006 convention, the all-male chapters will either have to go co-ed, or disband. So ultimately, there will be no all-male chapters left in APO (except for the unique case of the all-male school, Wabash College, but they're not on the list in this article). So, as far as the maintenance of this article is concerned, we have a few options:
I'm leaning towards the second option above, since it preserves the history and contributes to telling the story of APO's transition from an all-male fraternity to a co-ed one, and doesn't just erase the last remaining all-male chapters from history entirely.
In somewhat related news, I have heard from reliable, yet unpublished sources in Region V that the Sigma Xi chapter at Maine will be disbanding at its section conference, and starting a new service organization. Also, the Chi Pi chapter at Duquesne announced at the section 65/66 conference this past weekend that its intention is to transition prior to the deadline, but also asked chapters to respect its right to privacy so that the don't get bombarded with too many offers of assistance from every chapter nearby, which could get a bit overwhelming. Their statements at the conference were well-received with understanding by the students and the staff present, however. Dr. Cash ( talk) 19:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)`
Number of active chapters 363. School (Region/Section)
Petition Groups: 12 Alabama State University (IV/69) Emporia State University (VIII/34) Ivy Tech Community College (VI/31) Regent University (III/83) Salisbury University (III/85) San Diego State University (X/2) St. Augustine's College (III/80) St. Anselm College (I/94) Tarrant County College -Southeast (VII/41) University of Illinois at Springfield (VI/47) University of Maryland - Baltimore County (III/86) University of the Redlands (X/2)
Interest Groups: 17 California State University, Fullerton (X/2) Centenary College (I/99) Defiance College (V/56) Harold Washington College (VI/51) Midwestern State University (VII/41) Montclair State University (I/99) North Western Michigan College (VI/53) Parkland College (VI/50) Pennsylvania State University Altoona College (II/90) Tulane Univ of Louisiana (VII/45) University of Miami (VI/71) University of Nevada, Las Vegas (X/2) University of Texas at Tyler (VII/41) University of the District of Columbia (III/85) Wayland Baptist University (VII/40) Western Connecticut State University (I/96) Winona State University (IX/23) Naraht ( talk) 16:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Changes as of 4 June
Petitioning Groups (13) +California State University, Fullerton (X/2) -San Diego State University (X/2) (chartered) +Tulane University of Louisiana(VII/45)
Interest Groups (16) -Tulane University of Louisiana (VII/45) to PG +Brookhaven College (VII/41) -California State University, Fullerton (X/2) to PG -Centenary College (I/99) +Elizabeth City State University (III/80) +Pennsylvania State University Beaver (V/65) -University of Miami (IV/71)
For those that don't use userboxes, and as part of the Keep it Simple project, I've created an APO user label.
You can get
by adding {{ WP:KIS/Alpha Phi Omega}} to your user page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gogobera ( talk • contribs)
The following exists in the current article.
This "gentleman's agreement" was formalized in the by-laws at the 1998 Convention:
and was changed by a IP address user to "formalized in a resolution at the 1998 Convention."
This actually sounds more likely. It isn't actually *in* the bylaws anywhere... Naraht ( talk) 02:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
If a page hasn't been created for Dr. Ureta by Tuesday morning (June 24th), I'll get rid of the link myself. Adding the middle initial seems OK, but it should be consistent across this article and the APO-Phil president's template. Naraht ( talk) 20:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Can we move discussion about which way that should be to the talk page? I'm seeing it both ways on the national website. It has all of the capitalization in the pledge manual and the Fact Sheet ( http://www.apo.org/site/site_files/APO_YSO_Info_Sheet.pdf). On the National bylaws page ( http://www.apo.org/site/site_files/APO_National_Bylaws_2-07.pdf), when it is Article II in the bylaws, it has the same capitalization as the pledge manual, however in the Articles of Incorporation, most of the same phrasing is in lower case except for Scout, Oath, Law, Boy Scouts and America. I guess the ultimate source should be Article II of the bylaws which is where it is legally set for the purposes of the Fraternity, which means the extra capitalization. Ideas? Naraht ( talk) 07:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Justinm1978 ( talk) 14:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Should we change the reference to the National Bylaws then as a more direct example? Naraht ( talk) 19:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)