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MILHIST B-class feedback

@ Georgejdorner: you requested a WP:MILHIST B-class assessment, see below for some notes. Based on the below, I'm thinking both b1=no and b2=no which means Start-class for now. - Ljleppan ( talk) 17:33, 5 November 2021 (UTC) reply

B1 - References:

  • References include theaerodrome.com which, based on a quick skim, seems to be a WP:SPS. Granted, I'm not too familiar with this specific topic, but I couldn't find anything on the website itself establishing a pedigree that would make it obviously WP:RS.
    • If your quick skim had included a search for the site's bibliography, you would have discovered that the site is collated by some of the world's most prominent aviation historians. The same ones whose printed sources I draw upon. It is amazing how reliability suddenly fades when the info is on a website. (If I seem irritable, I've been explaining this every few months for the last decade). Georgejdorner ( talk) 21:56, 5 November 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Some inline-citations have ambiguous scopes. When individual sentences are sourced within a paragraph, an inline-reference generally covers everything to either 1) the start of the paragraph or 2) the previous inline-reference. So e.g. in the Early life and entry into military section as of now the ref [1] would also cover the sentence "Alois Rodlauer was born...", which is information not found in [1].
  • Place of death not cited in infobox and doesn't appear in prose.
  • Infobox mentions two awards of Medal for Bravery, but only one seems to be sourced in the

B2 - Content:

B3 - Structure:

B4 - Grammar:

B5 - Supporting material: Looks good.


So is this now dumbed down enough to be assessed B Class? Georgejdorner ( talk) 08:02, 6 November 2021 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MILHIST B-class feedback

@ Georgejdorner: you requested a WP:MILHIST B-class assessment, see below for some notes. Based on the below, I'm thinking both b1=no and b2=no which means Start-class for now. - Ljleppan ( talk) 17:33, 5 November 2021 (UTC) reply

B1 - References:

  • References include theaerodrome.com which, based on a quick skim, seems to be a WP:SPS. Granted, I'm not too familiar with this specific topic, but I couldn't find anything on the website itself establishing a pedigree that would make it obviously WP:RS.
    • If your quick skim had included a search for the site's bibliography, you would have discovered that the site is collated by some of the world's most prominent aviation historians. The same ones whose printed sources I draw upon. It is amazing how reliability suddenly fades when the info is on a website. (If I seem irritable, I've been explaining this every few months for the last decade). Georgejdorner ( talk) 21:56, 5 November 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Some inline-citations have ambiguous scopes. When individual sentences are sourced within a paragraph, an inline-reference generally covers everything to either 1) the start of the paragraph or 2) the previous inline-reference. So e.g. in the Early life and entry into military section as of now the ref [1] would also cover the sentence "Alois Rodlauer was born...", which is information not found in [1].
  • Place of death not cited in infobox and doesn't appear in prose.
  • Infobox mentions two awards of Medal for Bravery, but only one seems to be sourced in the

B2 - Content:

B3 - Structure:

B4 - Grammar:

B5 - Supporting material: Looks good.


So is this now dumbed down enough to be assessed B Class? Georgejdorner ( talk) 08:02, 6 November 2021 (UTC) reply


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