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Cleanup recommended. This article is all over the place. In definite need of disambiguation, reorganization. jareha 06:24, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
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Is it permissible to use well-known lyrics websites as a reference for song lyrics? I am particularly thinking of the section in this article that mentions Chuck Berry's use of the phrase in his song "My Ding-a-Ling". He also uses it in his song "Oh Baby Doll", which was a minor hit in 1957. I'd like to add this information, but how can I source it? As most lyrics websites rely on user- or bot-generated content, how reliable are they? Estesark ( talk) 09:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I am confused, this page says
"The word matriculation is derived from the Latin root word mater."
But the "matricualtion" page says
"Matriculation, ..., from the Latin matrix" meaning "list" or "register"
Are they both right? How?
BTW, one of the old meanings of "matrix" appears to be "womb"
From the "mater" page
māter (genitive mātris); f, third declension
At any rate, I'm confused - clarification would be appreiciated :)
Q Science 18:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe "alma mater" ever refers to a song. Not only is "solid evidence" lacking, even the webpage referred to doesn't mention "alma mater". I'm deleting the whole section. Unfree ( talk) 01:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
If a person studied business at Cornell University, should their alma mater in their infobox be "Cornell University" or "Samuel Curtis Johnson Graduate School of Management"? I believe that a more recognizable representation of a person's alma mater usually refers to the entire university, rather than the specific college of that university. I would rather tell others that I had attended Cornell, rather than saying that I attended the Samuel Curtis Johnson Graduate School of Management, because more people recognize the name of Cornell than of its specific schools. I'd like to know other peoples' thoughts on this. :) Grenadetoenails ( talk) 07:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Let's be honest, the ' In Popular Music' of this article is trivia. It's not an exhaustive list of references, and it's not intended to be - it certainly is never destined to become one, and it's arguable whether that goal is even beneficial to this article (beyond a 'see also' link). My instinct is to just get rid of it - SOP suggests integrating relevant facts into the article itself. Are there any of the items in this section that are worth keeping? Some of them (I'm looking at ' Immortal Technique's' lyrics here in particular) are totally inane and inconsequential.
Anyone see anything worthwhile about this section? MattLohkamp 09:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt.lohkamp ( talk • contribs)
What is my Alma mater, if I receive my M.Sc. from University A, but my Ph.D. from University B? 78.52.147.43 ( talk) 22:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Assume someone went to college at C University and then professional school at P University, business/law/medical/etc. (and assume that both schools are in e.g. the USA). Is C the only "alma mater" because e.g. generally a person has only one mother? (Of course we are merely speaking here of general usage, and any resulting general conclusion would always be subject to exceptions, e.g. where the person declared a greater affinity to P.) The article is basically silent on this question, and other reference sources i looked at left me with the question. Thanks. Bo99 ( talk) 18:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I have never once heard this phrase being used in the UK Cls14 23:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
In my experience, Alma Mater is rarely used in British English except in a mock-pretentious, jocular sense. It's not used in Who's Who and I've not seen it other British biographical reference books. I find it rather jarring that Wikipedia uses it in British biographical pages, and I would rather it be replaced with "Educated". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.140.128 ( talk) 13:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree with above comment - I've never heard this used in UK English and it's incongruous to see it on British bios. 86.21.181.133 ( talk) 00:02, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Michael, what do you think you are doing? Use relaible sources like the Webster dictionary and avoid OR. An educational institute attended by an individual IS indeed an Alma Mater, (See for example Bill Gates,) gratuation is secondary, although it usually occurs in most cases. Sfsupro ( talk) 05:34, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
See Maggie's comment above, and see the example of Steven Weinberg - alma maters are listed as where he got his batchelors and doctorate, not every institute he has ever attended. (And Bill Gates only attended one, BTW.) -- Michael C. Price talk 06:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually "Alma" in latin means "Soul". Alma Mater means "The mother of the soul". -- 168.205.156.183 ( talk) 19:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
"Alma Mater Studiorum ("Nourishing Mother of Studies") is the motto and original name of the University of Bologna." This appears to be only fifty per cent correct. The reference confirms that the university's motto is "Alma etc." but this was not its original name and was only adopted as a motto in recent years. In the Middle Ages it was commonly known as the Studium. I suggest removing the words "and original name" Campolongo ( talk) 10:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)Campolongo
"Alma" in latin means "soul". -- 168.205.156.183 ( talk) 19:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
As far as I'm informed, alumnus means without light. I guess its usage in the anglophone world has been done pretty much wrongly for a long time. For a Romance language speaker, it's hard to conceive this word not as "deprived from light" but as "the one who got nourished", specially because it cannot be used for the graduate, but for students under the process of being taught. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.164.159.153 ( talk) 18:47, 6 May 2017
The article talks about a statue erected a few years ago. Why? This seems like non-notable trivia to me. I suggest deleting it. (And the dubious claim about the university itself being the oldest university seems completely irrelevant.) - 131.107.0.73 ( talk) 20:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
The article says that one's Alma mater is "a school or university which an individual has attended".
So if I went to Brown, Harvard, and Princeton, say, for my BA, MA, and PhD respectively, what is my Alma mater?
This definition seems strange to me. --- Dagme ( talk) 04:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
In my understanding of WP:ITALICS, the term "alma mater" should not be italicised. This article here is inconsistent it its use of italic type; I suggest to drop it consistently. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 13:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
The title was wrongly italicized. This was mentioned above in the Italics section pointing to Text formatting#Italic type. I removed the italics per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Titles. Even concerning music the name would not be considered classical music, mixtape, or EP title. Otr500 ( talk) 21:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I was taught that latin often did not use capital letters- should we refer to it as 'alma mater', or am I missing something? :)
Actually "Alma" in latin means "Soul". Alma Mater means "The mother of the soul". -- 168.205.156.183 ( talk) 19:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
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Cleanup recommended. This article is all over the place. In definite need of disambiguation, reorganization. jareha 06:24, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
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-- CopyToWiktionaryBot 22:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it permissible to use well-known lyrics websites as a reference for song lyrics? I am particularly thinking of the section in this article that mentions Chuck Berry's use of the phrase in his song "My Ding-a-Ling". He also uses it in his song "Oh Baby Doll", which was a minor hit in 1957. I'd like to add this information, but how can I source it? As most lyrics websites rely on user- or bot-generated content, how reliable are they? Estesark ( talk) 09:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I am confused, this page says
"The word matriculation is derived from the Latin root word mater."
But the "matricualtion" page says
"Matriculation, ..., from the Latin matrix" meaning "list" or "register"
Are they both right? How?
BTW, one of the old meanings of "matrix" appears to be "womb"
From the "mater" page
māter (genitive mātris); f, third declension
At any rate, I'm confused - clarification would be appreiciated :)
Q Science 18:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe "alma mater" ever refers to a song. Not only is "solid evidence" lacking, even the webpage referred to doesn't mention "alma mater". I'm deleting the whole section. Unfree ( talk) 01:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
If a person studied business at Cornell University, should their alma mater in their infobox be "Cornell University" or "Samuel Curtis Johnson Graduate School of Management"? I believe that a more recognizable representation of a person's alma mater usually refers to the entire university, rather than the specific college of that university. I would rather tell others that I had attended Cornell, rather than saying that I attended the Samuel Curtis Johnson Graduate School of Management, because more people recognize the name of Cornell than of its specific schools. I'd like to know other peoples' thoughts on this. :) Grenadetoenails ( talk) 07:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Let's be honest, the ' In Popular Music' of this article is trivia. It's not an exhaustive list of references, and it's not intended to be - it certainly is never destined to become one, and it's arguable whether that goal is even beneficial to this article (beyond a 'see also' link). My instinct is to just get rid of it - SOP suggests integrating relevant facts into the article itself. Are there any of the items in this section that are worth keeping? Some of them (I'm looking at ' Immortal Technique's' lyrics here in particular) are totally inane and inconsequential.
Anyone see anything worthwhile about this section? MattLohkamp 09:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt.lohkamp ( talk • contribs)
What is my Alma mater, if I receive my M.Sc. from University A, but my Ph.D. from University B? 78.52.147.43 ( talk) 22:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Assume someone went to college at C University and then professional school at P University, business/law/medical/etc. (and assume that both schools are in e.g. the USA). Is C the only "alma mater" because e.g. generally a person has only one mother? (Of course we are merely speaking here of general usage, and any resulting general conclusion would always be subject to exceptions, e.g. where the person declared a greater affinity to P.) The article is basically silent on this question, and other reference sources i looked at left me with the question. Thanks. Bo99 ( talk) 18:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I have never once heard this phrase being used in the UK Cls14 23:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
In my experience, Alma Mater is rarely used in British English except in a mock-pretentious, jocular sense. It's not used in Who's Who and I've not seen it other British biographical reference books. I find it rather jarring that Wikipedia uses it in British biographical pages, and I would rather it be replaced with "Educated". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.140.128 ( talk) 13:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree with above comment - I've never heard this used in UK English and it's incongruous to see it on British bios. 86.21.181.133 ( talk) 00:02, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Michael, what do you think you are doing? Use relaible sources like the Webster dictionary and avoid OR. An educational institute attended by an individual IS indeed an Alma Mater, (See for example Bill Gates,) gratuation is secondary, although it usually occurs in most cases. Sfsupro ( talk) 05:34, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
See Maggie's comment above, and see the example of Steven Weinberg - alma maters are listed as where he got his batchelors and doctorate, not every institute he has ever attended. (And Bill Gates only attended one, BTW.) -- Michael C. Price talk 06:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually "Alma" in latin means "Soul". Alma Mater means "The mother of the soul". -- 168.205.156.183 ( talk) 19:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
"Alma Mater Studiorum ("Nourishing Mother of Studies") is the motto and original name of the University of Bologna." This appears to be only fifty per cent correct. The reference confirms that the university's motto is "Alma etc." but this was not its original name and was only adopted as a motto in recent years. In the Middle Ages it was commonly known as the Studium. I suggest removing the words "and original name" Campolongo ( talk) 10:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)Campolongo
"Alma" in latin means "soul". -- 168.205.156.183 ( talk) 19:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
As far as I'm informed, alumnus means without light. I guess its usage in the anglophone world has been done pretty much wrongly for a long time. For a Romance language speaker, it's hard to conceive this word not as "deprived from light" but as "the one who got nourished", specially because it cannot be used for the graduate, but for students under the process of being taught. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.164.159.153 ( talk) 18:47, 6 May 2017
The article talks about a statue erected a few years ago. Why? This seems like non-notable trivia to me. I suggest deleting it. (And the dubious claim about the university itself being the oldest university seems completely irrelevant.) - 131.107.0.73 ( talk) 20:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
The article says that one's Alma mater is "a school or university which an individual has attended".
So if I went to Brown, Harvard, and Princeton, say, for my BA, MA, and PhD respectively, what is my Alma mater?
This definition seems strange to me. --- Dagme ( talk) 04:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
In my understanding of WP:ITALICS, the term "alma mater" should not be italicised. This article here is inconsistent it its use of italic type; I suggest to drop it consistently. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 13:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
The title was wrongly italicized. This was mentioned above in the Italics section pointing to Text formatting#Italic type. I removed the italics per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Titles. Even concerning music the name would not be considered classical music, mixtape, or EP title. Otr500 ( talk) 21:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I was taught that latin often did not use capital letters- should we refer to it as 'alma mater', or am I missing something? :)
Actually "Alma" in latin means "Soul". Alma Mater means "The mother of the soul". -- 168.205.156.183 ( talk) 19:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)