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Can you specify who and where the COI is confirmed? Jerod Lycett ( talk) 23:53, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I did find a few sources, including The Toronto Star, Variety, and as unlikely as it is to be RS, Buzzfeed. Jerod Lycett ( talk) 00:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
You are not acting in accordance to wikipedia policy. I tried to act in good faith now, but you very clearly are either not reading the article or you can't follow guidelines. On primary sources, this is what the guidelines say "Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reliably published may be used in Wikipedia; but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them.[4] Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. For example, an article about a novel may cite passages to describe the plot, but any interpretation needs a secondary source. Do not analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so. Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them. Do not add unsourced material from your personal experience, because that would make Wikipedia a primary source of that material. Use extra caution when handling primary sources about living people; see WP:BLPPRIMARY, which is policy." Another thing, the articles you removed like Vice are so far from a self published blog with no editorial oversight it's very clear you didn't even bother to learn about the institution. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_(magazine) I also cannot even fathom what kind of issue you had with a archived, broadcast radio interview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SanctuaryX ( talk • contribs) 15:46, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
MOS:CT is pretty clear about how to do capitalization in titles. We don't use the work's own styling. hinnk ( talk) 18:49, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I've cleaned out a bit of promotional fluff and editorial comments hidden within and without citations. These kinds of comments telling other editors not to edit existing content is a form of WP:Ownership and is not permitted. Please use the talk page for discussion if you have concerns about content changes. Thanks! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 00:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
VICE
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Let's discuss these one at a time and see if we can find some common ground. OK? What is the citation for this info about the soprano voice? Is it this 2010 Interview with CKCU-FM? CKCU Interview -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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This one is a close call, but given the quote, I would say that the notion of Ms. X having a soprano voice isn't quite confirmed from the interview, so I would err on the side of caution and leave that aspect out of the article. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 02:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC) |
This I consider to be a reliable source. To this end I've added a modest summary of what the article reports in terms of the subject's persona:
Is this alright with you? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
New editor here, finally made an account and this is my first more-than-minor page edit. I noticed the lead section banner so I used similar pop artists as a template (Lady Gaga, Marina & The Diamonds, Betty Who) to rewrite the existing lead. Hopefully my changes are appropriate!
I also worked to restructure and logically sub-head the Career section, and I sorted out some relevant information that seemed for suited to an Artistry section. The info is more clear in its organization, but the sections seem a bit thin now so maybe a second pair of eyes can decide if these changes were warranted or not.
Also, this page seems to cite the same sources multiple times, specifically the Billboard interview. I'm new to Wikipedia citation format, but is there a way to direct multiple in-text citations to the same singular source in the References section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OverwhelminglyLargeTelescope ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
You have no standing to be merging/deleting the article; you made many drastic changes without proposing them. You did not read previous deletion discussions that did not side with your view. This article does meet WP:MUSBIO. Many of the things you removed are posts she has made about herself, which it makes it WP:ABOUTSELF, which IS acceptable. These were deemed acceptable in the deletion discussion as well. Many things you removed (e.g.
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these involve her date and place of birth ) is not "promotional fluff." I'm not sure how you mistook it for that but it is simply not. If you want to do this propose it or submit it to arbitration, but I don't think you'll find much luck after previous discussions have negated these /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allie_X. Please take a look at WP:ABOUTSELF, WP:YOUTUBE, WP:MUSBIO, WP:DELETE, WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT, and WP:MERGE. Also take note of WP:TWINKLEABUSE. SanctuaryX ( talk) 23:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Zpeopleheart: Can you explain how this article is not neutral and is "glowing?, since you didn't make a discussion here. I don't see any kind of value in this article, because there's really no judgement in the article. SanctuaryX ( talk) 14:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Karst:Can someone please explain why the birthdate and birth place has continuously been removed? There were reliable references for it. The reason it took a few references is because it was bits and pieces of it on each different link. SanctuaryX ( talk)
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Please add her date of birth (Please look at the references and note how it is concluded; if you feel the year should only be included, even though the date can be found by looking at a calendar, fine):
| birth_date = {{Birth date and age|df=yes|1985|07|31}}<ref name="Nee Sous X (archived)">{{cite web|title =Nee Sous X |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151015065753/http://www.lapresse.ca/debats/chroniques/nathalie-petrowski/201504/30/01-4865793-nee-sous-x-ou-presque.php|website=La Presse|accessdate = 2015-10-19}}</ref><ref name="birth1">{{cite web|title=Allie X tweets birth date (no year)|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151003195029/https:/twitter.com/alliexxxxandra/status/97120196334071808|website=Allie X Twitter|accessdate = 2015-10-19}}</ref>
And add her place of birth:
| birth_place = [[Oakville, Ontario]], Canada <ref name="oakville">{{cite web| title= Allie Hughes May Be The Next Maria | accessdate= November 9, 2015| url=http://www.insidehalton.com/whatson-story/2929434-oakville-s-allie-hughes-may-be-the-next-maria/}}</ref>
SanctuaryX ( talk) 02:21, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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I'm hoping this will be a non-controversial pair of edits to clearly enhance the page. Could an admin add this image of the subject to the article infobox, and a link to the subject's Wikimedia Commons category to the bottom? The necessary edits will be:
1. To the infobox form at the top of the article:
{{Infobox musical artist | name = Allie X | image = Allie X at CFC 25th Anniversary Celebration in LA.jpg | caption = Allie X in 2013 at the [[Canadian Film Centre]] 25th anniversary celebration
2. To the bottom of the article (would go in the External links section, if there was one):
{{commonscat}}
Thanks! -- GRuban ( talk) 16:17, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! However, so sorry, but I didn't notice that the infobox already had another line in it at the bottom:
| caption =Allie X performing at The Drake, 2015
That seems to be overwriting the correct caption which was added above it. Could you please remove the 2015 caption line, so the correct caption line works? -- GRuban ( talk) 15:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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There is currently an AFD running for this article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allie X (2nd nomination). There needs to be an AFD template on the page. Thanks, shoy ( reactions) 18:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the lead, could a link be made to Catch (Allie X song)? Specifically:
After moving to the United States, she released the song "Catch," which reached the number 55 spot on the Canadian Billboard Hot 100.
to
After moving to the United States, she released the song "[[Catch (Allie X song)|Catch]]", which reached the number 55 spot on the Canadian Billboard Hot 100.
Thanks. clpo13( talk) 19:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
A neutrality tag has been applied to this article as a drive-by tagging. Will the tagger please explain and discuss on this talk page? If the tagger does not explain and discuss, the tag may be removed. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Remove {{ POV}} tag from top of article. As above. Ivanvector 🍁 ( talk) 17:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Closing per WP:SNOW. There is strong consensus for keeping the information in the article but not in the lede, and the change has already been done. ( non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 ( talk) 15:15, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Should the sentence with one reference about AllieX being Soprano or not be included or not included zt this time. The earlier consensus was to exclude the referring to the artist as soprano. WordSeventeen ( talk) 20:40, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Would anyone object to snow-closing this? The result is pretty obvious, plus it's already been implemented. Ivanvector 🍁 ( talk) 15:50, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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When I found this article today, it had claimed that Allie was on CBC's Triple Sensation. I checked and I don't see when she did, and there's no mention of it on her IMDB page, so I have removed that credit from the article. If somebody can find a reference that supports the claim, please by all means include it. Cheers, PK T(alk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
On October 5th, Allie X Teased her upcoming single Black Eye. It is rumored that it is the 10th Track off her album; This may or may not be true, though it came from a leak that included all the songs and track listings. The community now refers to this upcoming album as the Girl with No Face. However, due to unreliable sources and lack of information as Twin Music has taken down the majority of the leaks, this should be noted in the Allie X "Latest Era" Information. There is also a lack of Cape God Deluxe information where she dropped Four new songs. (Anchor, Cape God Theme, Milk, Rising Tide). There is also a missing Controversy Box that covers the Incident where she left her dog, Koji, in the car while she was in Erewhon.
I would personally update this but I am still very new to wikipedia editing and need more time to review rules and neutrality.
ThanX X's! HSBERG.EDU ( talk) 16:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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Can you specify who and where the COI is confirmed? Jerod Lycett ( talk) 23:53, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I did find a few sources, including The Toronto Star, Variety, and as unlikely as it is to be RS, Buzzfeed. Jerod Lycett ( talk) 00:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
You are not acting in accordance to wikipedia policy. I tried to act in good faith now, but you very clearly are either not reading the article or you can't follow guidelines. On primary sources, this is what the guidelines say "Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reliably published may be used in Wikipedia; but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them.[4] Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. For example, an article about a novel may cite passages to describe the plot, but any interpretation needs a secondary source. Do not analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so. Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them. Do not add unsourced material from your personal experience, because that would make Wikipedia a primary source of that material. Use extra caution when handling primary sources about living people; see WP:BLPPRIMARY, which is policy." Another thing, the articles you removed like Vice are so far from a self published blog with no editorial oversight it's very clear you didn't even bother to learn about the institution. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_(magazine) I also cannot even fathom what kind of issue you had with a archived, broadcast radio interview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SanctuaryX ( talk • contribs) 15:46, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
MOS:CT is pretty clear about how to do capitalization in titles. We don't use the work's own styling. hinnk ( talk) 18:49, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I've cleaned out a bit of promotional fluff and editorial comments hidden within and without citations. These kinds of comments telling other editors not to edit existing content is a form of WP:Ownership and is not permitted. Please use the talk page for discussion if you have concerns about content changes. Thanks! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 00:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
VICE
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Let's discuss these one at a time and see if we can find some common ground. OK? What is the citation for this info about the soprano voice? Is it this 2010 Interview with CKCU-FM? CKCU Interview -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request: |
This one is a close call, but given the quote, I would say that the notion of Ms. X having a soprano voice isn't quite confirmed from the interview, so I would err on the side of caution and leave that aspect out of the article. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 02:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC) |
This I consider to be a reliable source. To this end I've added a modest summary of what the article reports in terms of the subject's persona:
Is this alright with you? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
New editor here, finally made an account and this is my first more-than-minor page edit. I noticed the lead section banner so I used similar pop artists as a template (Lady Gaga, Marina & The Diamonds, Betty Who) to rewrite the existing lead. Hopefully my changes are appropriate!
I also worked to restructure and logically sub-head the Career section, and I sorted out some relevant information that seemed for suited to an Artistry section. The info is more clear in its organization, but the sections seem a bit thin now so maybe a second pair of eyes can decide if these changes were warranted or not.
Also, this page seems to cite the same sources multiple times, specifically the Billboard interview. I'm new to Wikipedia citation format, but is there a way to direct multiple in-text citations to the same singular source in the References section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OverwhelminglyLargeTelescope ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
You have no standing to be merging/deleting the article; you made many drastic changes without proposing them. You did not read previous deletion discussions that did not side with your view. This article does meet WP:MUSBIO. Many of the things you removed are posts she has made about herself, which it makes it WP:ABOUTSELF, which IS acceptable. These were deemed acceptable in the deletion discussion as well. Many things you removed (e.g.
(cur | prev) 22:13, 17 November 2015 Zpeopleheart (talk | contribs) . . (8,621 bytes) (-1,055) . . (Reverted to revision 691137162 by Yokoono5440 (talk): With due respect all that fluff and promotional stuff needed to go. (TW)) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 22:11, 17 November 2015 Materialscientist (talk | contribs) . . (9,676 bytes) (+1,786) . . (Reverted 2 good faith edits by Yokoono5440 using STiki) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 22:02, 17 November 2015 Yokoono5440 (talk | contribs) m . . (7,890 bytes) (-731) . . (→Early life) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 22:00, 17 November 2015 Yokoono5440 (talk | contribs) . . (8,621 bytes) (-1,055) . . (Birth information.) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
these involve her date and place of birth ) is not "promotional fluff." I'm not sure how you mistook it for that but it is simply not. If you want to do this propose it or submit it to arbitration, but I don't think you'll find much luck after previous discussions have negated these /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allie_X. Please take a look at WP:ABOUTSELF, WP:YOUTUBE, WP:MUSBIO, WP:DELETE, WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT, and WP:MERGE. Also take note of WP:TWINKLEABUSE. SanctuaryX ( talk) 23:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Zpeopleheart: Can you explain how this article is not neutral and is "glowing?, since you didn't make a discussion here. I don't see any kind of value in this article, because there's really no judgement in the article. SanctuaryX ( talk) 14:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Karst:Can someone please explain why the birthdate and birth place has continuously been removed? There were reliable references for it. The reason it took a few references is because it was bits and pieces of it on each different link. SanctuaryX ( talk)
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Please add her date of birth (Please look at the references and note how it is concluded; if you feel the year should only be included, even though the date can be found by looking at a calendar, fine):
| birth_date = {{Birth date and age|df=yes|1985|07|31}}<ref name="Nee Sous X (archived)">{{cite web|title =Nee Sous X |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151015065753/http://www.lapresse.ca/debats/chroniques/nathalie-petrowski/201504/30/01-4865793-nee-sous-x-ou-presque.php|website=La Presse|accessdate = 2015-10-19}}</ref><ref name="birth1">{{cite web|title=Allie X tweets birth date (no year)|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151003195029/https:/twitter.com/alliexxxxandra/status/97120196334071808|website=Allie X Twitter|accessdate = 2015-10-19}}</ref>
And add her place of birth:
| birth_place = [[Oakville, Ontario]], Canada <ref name="oakville">{{cite web| title= Allie Hughes May Be The Next Maria | accessdate= November 9, 2015| url=http://www.insidehalton.com/whatson-story/2929434-oakville-s-allie-hughes-may-be-the-next-maria/}}</ref>
SanctuaryX ( talk) 02:21, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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I'm hoping this will be a non-controversial pair of edits to clearly enhance the page. Could an admin add this image of the subject to the article infobox, and a link to the subject's Wikimedia Commons category to the bottom? The necessary edits will be:
1. To the infobox form at the top of the article:
{{Infobox musical artist | name = Allie X | image = Allie X at CFC 25th Anniversary Celebration in LA.jpg | caption = Allie X in 2013 at the [[Canadian Film Centre]] 25th anniversary celebration
2. To the bottom of the article (would go in the External links section, if there was one):
{{commonscat}}
Thanks! -- GRuban ( talk) 16:17, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! However, so sorry, but I didn't notice that the infobox already had another line in it at the bottom:
| caption =Allie X performing at The Drake, 2015
That seems to be overwriting the correct caption which was added above it. Could you please remove the 2015 caption line, so the correct caption line works? -- GRuban ( talk) 15:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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There is currently an AFD running for this article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allie X (2nd nomination). There needs to be an AFD template on the page. Thanks, shoy ( reactions) 18:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the lead, could a link be made to Catch (Allie X song)? Specifically:
After moving to the United States, she released the song "Catch," which reached the number 55 spot on the Canadian Billboard Hot 100.
to
After moving to the United States, she released the song "[[Catch (Allie X song)|Catch]]", which reached the number 55 spot on the Canadian Billboard Hot 100.
Thanks. clpo13( talk) 19:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
A neutrality tag has been applied to this article as a drive-by tagging. Will the tagger please explain and discuss on this talk page? If the tagger does not explain and discuss, the tag may be removed. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Remove {{ POV}} tag from top of article. As above. Ivanvector 🍁 ( talk) 17:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Closing per WP:SNOW. There is strong consensus for keeping the information in the article but not in the lede, and the change has already been done. ( non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 ( talk) 15:15, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Should the sentence with one reference about AllieX being Soprano or not be included or not included zt this time. The earlier consensus was to exclude the referring to the artist as soprano. WordSeventeen ( talk) 20:40, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Would anyone object to snow-closing this? The result is pretty obvious, plus it's already been implemented. Ivanvector 🍁 ( talk) 15:50, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to 4 external links on
Allie X. Please take a moment to review
my edit. You may add {{
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after the link to keep me from modifying it, if I keep adding bad data, but formatting bugs should be reported instead. Alternatively, you can add {{
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to keep me off the page altogether, but should be used as a last resort. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
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An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 17:48, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
When I found this article today, it had claimed that Allie was on CBC's Triple Sensation. I checked and I don't see when she did, and there's no mention of it on her IMDB page, so I have removed that credit from the article. If somebody can find a reference that supports the claim, please by all means include it. Cheers, PK T(alk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
On October 5th, Allie X Teased her upcoming single Black Eye. It is rumored that it is the 10th Track off her album; This may or may not be true, though it came from a leak that included all the songs and track listings. The community now refers to this upcoming album as the Girl with No Face. However, due to unreliable sources and lack of information as Twin Music has taken down the majority of the leaks, this should be noted in the Allie X "Latest Era" Information. There is also a lack of Cape God Deluxe information where she dropped Four new songs. (Anchor, Cape God Theme, Milk, Rising Tide). There is also a missing Controversy Box that covers the Incident where she left her dog, Koji, in the car while she was in Erewhon.
I would personally update this but I am still very new to wikipedia editing and need more time to review rules and neutrality.
ThanX X's! HSBERG.EDU ( talk) 16:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)