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A fact from Allan J. McDonald appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 March 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Seloloving now that’s really all I have time for, if you want to take over. Sorry my typing was such a slow mess ... my computer is in repair and I did that from an iPad, which was a rather miserable experience. It’s all yours ...
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
04:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
SandyGeorgia: Hey, no worries, there's no need for apologies. I think you did a marvelous job considering you were on an iPad. I only popped in after reading about his death on Reddit. If I have the time after class, I will try to add more details on his role that day. Please do continue adding as required.
Seloloving (
talk)
04:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
OK, maybe someone else wants it. @
Guerillero,
Z1720, and
Panini!: in case anyone wants a DYK, this can go to the first taker ... there is plenty in the sources for adding an interesting hook about him speaking up from the back of the room to blow the whistle during the Presidential Commission hearings. I put the basics in place only, but I don't do DYK.
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
16:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Z1720 take care about the resolution in congress ... one or two sources have it wrong, a resolution was introduced, but that pressure alone was enough to get Thiokol to back off ... as the congressional record shows, the resolution never advanced out of committee ... several sources state it correctly, others do not ... no resolution was passed, only introduced, see
here. Click on all actions tab on the congressional record, which is official. So glad to see you working this up!!
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
02:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I was a little too bold with changing that info. I changed it back and added a new source to support it, although it wasn't a reversion so you might want to doublecheck the wording. I'm adding info because if I want to contribute to the article before nominating it for DYK. (I also support someone else nominating it, if they want.) @
SandyGeorgia: Can I add you as a co-nom to the DYK? I'll submit the nomination and reply to follow-ups but you should get credit for creating this article.
Z1720 (
talk)
02:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I think it’s OK now, but pls doublecheck ... I am in a hotel and cannot pull up the WashPost at all. I really really really do not do DYK, and am not interested in credit. I am only offering it so that one of you who does can take advantage of the opportunity :). Really, I mean it ... don’t need my name on it, as I have been a long and vocal critic of DYK. Just think this guy should get his due time :) Bsst,
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
02:14, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Absolutely understand not wanting your name on it, that's why I wanted to double-check. The WashPost article doesn't verify the resolution passing, so we don't have to state that it passed, only that it was proposed. The quote from WashPost is, "Mr. McDonald was demoted at Morton Thiokol after his testimony, then reinstated after Congress moved to end the company’s federal contracts if he was not returned to his job." I think the article's info, as currently written, is verified by the sources. (I was using another source to support Congress passing the resolution, but NYT and WashPost are more reliable so let's use those). I'm not going to nominate it until tomorrow so I can look for more sources on some databases (let's flesh out the article if we can) but let me know if you want me to delay or have any other requests/concerns.
Z1720 (
talk)
02:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
What is there is good to go. I reworded a couple of phrases that were added by other editors without adequate paraphrasing, so everything should be good now. Have fun at DYK :0. Best,
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
04:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that during the
Rogers Commission, Allan J. McDonald(pictured) revealed a coverup by
NASA engineers? Source: "McDonald demonstrates that a few key NASA engineers tried to arrange a cover-up of what actually transpired at the infamous teleconference the night before the Challenger launch"
[2]
Coffeeandcrumbs any chance to undo this?
[3] The person(s) who like this have younger eyes than I do (or don’t have to edit from an iPad at times), and I set up citations with spaces on purpose so I can read around and edit them. Every time someone takes away the spaces I carefully add for ease of editing, I wince :)
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
01:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Allan J. McDonald appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 March 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Seloloving now that’s really all I have time for, if you want to take over. Sorry my typing was such a slow mess ... my computer is in repair and I did that from an iPad, which was a rather miserable experience. It’s all yours ...
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
04:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
SandyGeorgia: Hey, no worries, there's no need for apologies. I think you did a marvelous job considering you were on an iPad. I only popped in after reading about his death on Reddit. If I have the time after class, I will try to add more details on his role that day. Please do continue adding as required.
Seloloving (
talk)
04:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
OK, maybe someone else wants it. @
Guerillero,
Z1720, and
Panini!: in case anyone wants a DYK, this can go to the first taker ... there is plenty in the sources for adding an interesting hook about him speaking up from the back of the room to blow the whistle during the Presidential Commission hearings. I put the basics in place only, but I don't do DYK.
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
16:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Z1720 take care about the resolution in congress ... one or two sources have it wrong, a resolution was introduced, but that pressure alone was enough to get Thiokol to back off ... as the congressional record shows, the resolution never advanced out of committee ... several sources state it correctly, others do not ... no resolution was passed, only introduced, see
here. Click on all actions tab on the congressional record, which is official. So glad to see you working this up!!
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
02:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I was a little too bold with changing that info. I changed it back and added a new source to support it, although it wasn't a reversion so you might want to doublecheck the wording. I'm adding info because if I want to contribute to the article before nominating it for DYK. (I also support someone else nominating it, if they want.) @
SandyGeorgia: Can I add you as a co-nom to the DYK? I'll submit the nomination and reply to follow-ups but you should get credit for creating this article.
Z1720 (
talk)
02:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I think it’s OK now, but pls doublecheck ... I am in a hotel and cannot pull up the WashPost at all. I really really really do not do DYK, and am not interested in credit. I am only offering it so that one of you who does can take advantage of the opportunity :). Really, I mean it ... don’t need my name on it, as I have been a long and vocal critic of DYK. Just think this guy should get his due time :) Bsst,
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
02:14, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Absolutely understand not wanting your name on it, that's why I wanted to double-check. The WashPost article doesn't verify the resolution passing, so we don't have to state that it passed, only that it was proposed. The quote from WashPost is, "Mr. McDonald was demoted at Morton Thiokol after his testimony, then reinstated after Congress moved to end the company’s federal contracts if he was not returned to his job." I think the article's info, as currently written, is verified by the sources. (I was using another source to support Congress passing the resolution, but NYT and WashPost are more reliable so let's use those). I'm not going to nominate it until tomorrow so I can look for more sources on some databases (let's flesh out the article if we can) but let me know if you want me to delay or have any other requests/concerns.
Z1720 (
talk)
02:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
What is there is good to go. I reworded a couple of phrases that were added by other editors without adequate paraphrasing, so everything should be good now. Have fun at DYK :0. Best,
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
04:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that during the
Rogers Commission, Allan J. McDonald(pictured) revealed a coverup by
NASA engineers? Source: "McDonald demonstrates that a few key NASA engineers tried to arrange a cover-up of what actually transpired at the infamous teleconference the night before the Challenger launch"
[2]
Coffeeandcrumbs any chance to undo this?
[3] The person(s) who like this have younger eyes than I do (or don’t have to edit from an iPad at times), and I set up citations with spaces on purpose so I can read around and edit them. Every time someone takes away the spaces I carefully add for ease of editing, I wince :)
SandyGeorgia (
Talk)
01:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)reply