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There were references to it being like the silver age, so is it a continuation of the silver age storys, or is this a fresh start “reboot” with it’s own story line and continuity?
Grant Morrison states definitively in this interview that it's not a reboot to continuity. Vizjim 10:59, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
If you want to make a section for the opening story and list the artist/writers there then thats fine. But the AllStar line will switch creative team after 9-12 issues so to have Miller and Lee in the opening paragraph is inappropriate for the article.
On a side note I must restate my objection to calling Frank Miller a "former" Batman writer. Legendary would be acceptable, but people move around on titles on comics all the time. Calling him former is like saying he retired or something. He is working on another Batman book on the side, and has put many out over the years. Former is completely wrong.
How do you start a page ?-- Brown Shoes22 07:20, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
OK, before anyone goes changing things, the current 2005 imprint DOES NOT have any hyphens (All Star NOT All-star). The original series from the 1940s for the most part DOES carry the hyphen (although they weren't anal about it, so it may not always appear). So please don't alter my changes on this to All-star (disambiguation), All Star Batman and Robin, All Star Superman, All Star Comics and All Star DC Comics. That means you too, Brown Shoes22!! We are fellow Edmontonians and have to stick together. Dyslexic agnostic 07:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
could it be possible that All Star Batman and Robin is set before All-Star Superman? cause reading both it seem it could possibly be so, and explain alot
Is anyone else tired of the issues being backed up so much? The series started over a year ago, and they've only released four issues. 12.37.71.134 19:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The infamous quotation could use some kind of context -- it seems to have just been dropped in. Didn't it "win" an "award" for Worst Line of the Year or something? It could use a citation for all the flak it got. - HKMarks 02:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The section about fan reaction and criticism does not meet the Wikipedia guidelines for NPOV. Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view. I've added a tag asking these statements be verified with sources, and if they're not updated with sources in a couple of days, I'll probably remove the passages that aren't written from a neutral point of view. Rray 00:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Having read the article I think the issue of "fan reaction" is so one sided that it probably violates Wiki protocols. It is true that SOME fans are not happy with the book. But, even a causal search of message boards will reveal that just as many really like it. Putting aside sales, which is a significant indicator of its reception, the "fan reaction" is not all that accurate. Moreover, it siting message board postings as sources, this bit has really cherry picked what is out there. A far more accurate piece would discuss why fans do not, and why fans DO like the book. The impression this article gives is that All Star Batman is universally hated...which is demonstrably not true.-- GrantLaFleche 01:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
The major problem here is that we know the greatness of Jim Lee and Frank Miller, but the Batman isn't coming across as the Batman- more like some sneering, play acting thug/wannabe wolverine in a cape. Its as if Frank Miller, who has been touted for years now as the force behind restoring the Batman to his roots, has suffered some head trauma and abandoned everything he knew about the character. The Batman IS a deadly, often ruthless, driven character. But he is not some undisciplined mouthy thug. This crude, sloppy version was evident in the last "Dark Knight Returns" series and doesnt fit him. The Batman's extensive martial arts discipline, training, expertise, and cool are completely erased in this series. This person would NEVER have "drafted" some kid into his enterprise. He would NEVER have manhandled Alfred, either. Also, I've noticed a marked tendency by Miller (and now Lee) to depict the Bat insignia in as crude a manner possible. Don't know why this is; if they keep this up it'll just be a black jagged line. And whats with the feeble blue colour on the cape, cowl, gloves and boots? As far as the Black Canary subplot- I'm not sure what she's doing here, outside of the obvious eye candy value. Her mindset seems as demented as the so-called Batman- she dresses in an alluring manner, surrounds herself with the surliest of pigs and adds ALCOHOL, but then gets mad when they make the inevitable, almost obligatory, crude remarks re: alluring outfit. Of course we are then treated to the equally inevitable ass-kicking, complete with shattered molars and spewing blood. Advise: take a look at any of the Justice League or Batman animated series available today. Paul Dini, Bruce Timm, DWayne McDuffie all give outstanding renditions of a great character. Cape 131.37.206.6 16:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I've heard (read) a rumour that DC are going to scrap this title due to poor sales resulting from the irregularity of its availability, and the fact that they unable to establish a more regular stream of content from messrs Miller and Lee. Does anybody know anything about this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.106.197.156 ( talk) 09:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
Every now and then someone comes in and starts expanding the controversy section. If you do this, you need to include appropriate citations, because it's starting to look like a review of the books and also original research. Rray 20:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't own the issue, but does Superman really run the doctor's car across the ocean, or does he fly it? Seems kind of out of character for him to run. joshschr 20:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
From what I learnt from reading issue 7, Superman can fly, but doesn't know he can fly.
That's right, Batman comments that he's so stupid he doesn't know he's capable of flying.
It's probably a nod to the early Superman. When he first appeared, he could only "leap tall buildings in a single bound," but it was deamed to look stupid when they started the Max Fleicher cartoons, and because of the Fleichers, he started flying. In some stories (to explain him leaping), they say it's because he was still learning his powers or (in others) they hadn't built up enough for him to fly. -Kur
Issues 11 and 12 however were canceled pending a later release date, Sidenote-- Brown Shoes22 ( talk) 04:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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This has hit the mainstream press which might make it worth more of a mention - it might. Rich Johnston throws in a bunch of links to Fox News, NY Mag, LA Times, etc. here (scroll down to Gutter Mouthed Press section) and a Google news search throws up others, like the NY Post. It'll be interesting to see if this helps or hinders the sales figures but, as that NY Post article shows - they are selling on eBay for up to $250. ( Emperor ( talk) 14:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC))
({edidsemiprotected}) it says that "alfred blackmailed superman into taking the doctor from gotham to paris"
however the doctor is in paris and has to be taken to gotham, it should read, "alfred blackmailed superman into taking the doctor from paris to gotham.
Martynross2 ( talk) 20:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Dan Didio has said the title has been put on hiatus: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/020913-DiDio20.html 12.37.71.139 ( talk) 20:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
One theory I've seen discussed on messageboards and the like, though not from a citeable source, is that the series is tongue-in-cheek and deliberately intended to fit the "so bad it's good" mold. That's also the impression I myself get when reading it, though that may just be because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate. Has this interpretation appeared anywhere that Wikipedia can reasonably cite? Because if so, it's the closest the "reception" section is going to come to being balanced. 99.16.198.149 ( talk) 09:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
All Star Batman and Robin has been cancelled with a new miniseries coming out to finish the story. http://www.newsarama.com/comics/all-star-boy-wonder-100402.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.4.185 ( talk) 03:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Look, I'd edit it myself but this article is locked, so can we get a mention of this /\? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.4.185 ( talk) 02:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
The DK:BW subsection of the article is now out-of-date. DC solicits its February offerings via Diamond Comic Distributors in November. Newsarama's full list of DC's February solicitations ( http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-february-2011-solicitations-101115.html) does not have any mention of ASBRBW or DK:BW. That means it's simply not coming out in February. A brief line like "However, DC's order solicitations for February 2011 carried no mention of the series" would be sufficient to update this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.170.59.139 ( talk) 22:09, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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There were references to it being like the silver age, so is it a continuation of the silver age storys, or is this a fresh start “reboot” with it’s own story line and continuity?
Grant Morrison states definitively in this interview that it's not a reboot to continuity. Vizjim 10:59, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
If you want to make a section for the opening story and list the artist/writers there then thats fine. But the AllStar line will switch creative team after 9-12 issues so to have Miller and Lee in the opening paragraph is inappropriate for the article.
On a side note I must restate my objection to calling Frank Miller a "former" Batman writer. Legendary would be acceptable, but people move around on titles on comics all the time. Calling him former is like saying he retired or something. He is working on another Batman book on the side, and has put many out over the years. Former is completely wrong.
How do you start a page ?-- Brown Shoes22 07:20, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
OK, before anyone goes changing things, the current 2005 imprint DOES NOT have any hyphens (All Star NOT All-star). The original series from the 1940s for the most part DOES carry the hyphen (although they weren't anal about it, so it may not always appear). So please don't alter my changes on this to All-star (disambiguation), All Star Batman and Robin, All Star Superman, All Star Comics and All Star DC Comics. That means you too, Brown Shoes22!! We are fellow Edmontonians and have to stick together. Dyslexic agnostic 07:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
could it be possible that All Star Batman and Robin is set before All-Star Superman? cause reading both it seem it could possibly be so, and explain alot
Is anyone else tired of the issues being backed up so much? The series started over a year ago, and they've only released four issues. 12.37.71.134 19:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The infamous quotation could use some kind of context -- it seems to have just been dropped in. Didn't it "win" an "award" for Worst Line of the Year or something? It could use a citation for all the flak it got. - HKMarks 02:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The section about fan reaction and criticism does not meet the Wikipedia guidelines for NPOV. Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view. I've added a tag asking these statements be verified with sources, and if they're not updated with sources in a couple of days, I'll probably remove the passages that aren't written from a neutral point of view. Rray 00:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Having read the article I think the issue of "fan reaction" is so one sided that it probably violates Wiki protocols. It is true that SOME fans are not happy with the book. But, even a causal search of message boards will reveal that just as many really like it. Putting aside sales, which is a significant indicator of its reception, the "fan reaction" is not all that accurate. Moreover, it siting message board postings as sources, this bit has really cherry picked what is out there. A far more accurate piece would discuss why fans do not, and why fans DO like the book. The impression this article gives is that All Star Batman is universally hated...which is demonstrably not true.-- GrantLaFleche 01:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
The major problem here is that we know the greatness of Jim Lee and Frank Miller, but the Batman isn't coming across as the Batman- more like some sneering, play acting thug/wannabe wolverine in a cape. Its as if Frank Miller, who has been touted for years now as the force behind restoring the Batman to his roots, has suffered some head trauma and abandoned everything he knew about the character. The Batman IS a deadly, often ruthless, driven character. But he is not some undisciplined mouthy thug. This crude, sloppy version was evident in the last "Dark Knight Returns" series and doesnt fit him. The Batman's extensive martial arts discipline, training, expertise, and cool are completely erased in this series. This person would NEVER have "drafted" some kid into his enterprise. He would NEVER have manhandled Alfred, either. Also, I've noticed a marked tendency by Miller (and now Lee) to depict the Bat insignia in as crude a manner possible. Don't know why this is; if they keep this up it'll just be a black jagged line. And whats with the feeble blue colour on the cape, cowl, gloves and boots? As far as the Black Canary subplot- I'm not sure what she's doing here, outside of the obvious eye candy value. Her mindset seems as demented as the so-called Batman- she dresses in an alluring manner, surrounds herself with the surliest of pigs and adds ALCOHOL, but then gets mad when they make the inevitable, almost obligatory, crude remarks re: alluring outfit. Of course we are then treated to the equally inevitable ass-kicking, complete with shattered molars and spewing blood. Advise: take a look at any of the Justice League or Batman animated series available today. Paul Dini, Bruce Timm, DWayne McDuffie all give outstanding renditions of a great character. Cape 131.37.206.6 16:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I've heard (read) a rumour that DC are going to scrap this title due to poor sales resulting from the irregularity of its availability, and the fact that they unable to establish a more regular stream of content from messrs Miller and Lee. Does anybody know anything about this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.106.197.156 ( talk) 09:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
Every now and then someone comes in and starts expanding the controversy section. If you do this, you need to include appropriate citations, because it's starting to look like a review of the books and also original research. Rray 20:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't own the issue, but does Superman really run the doctor's car across the ocean, or does he fly it? Seems kind of out of character for him to run. joshschr 20:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
From what I learnt from reading issue 7, Superman can fly, but doesn't know he can fly.
That's right, Batman comments that he's so stupid he doesn't know he's capable of flying.
It's probably a nod to the early Superman. When he first appeared, he could only "leap tall buildings in a single bound," but it was deamed to look stupid when they started the Max Fleicher cartoons, and because of the Fleichers, he started flying. In some stories (to explain him leaping), they say it's because he was still learning his powers or (in others) they hadn't built up enough for him to fly. -Kur
Issues 11 and 12 however were canceled pending a later release date, Sidenote-- Brown Shoes22 ( talk) 04:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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This has hit the mainstream press which might make it worth more of a mention - it might. Rich Johnston throws in a bunch of links to Fox News, NY Mag, LA Times, etc. here (scroll down to Gutter Mouthed Press section) and a Google news search throws up others, like the NY Post. It'll be interesting to see if this helps or hinders the sales figures but, as that NY Post article shows - they are selling on eBay for up to $250. ( Emperor ( talk) 14:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC))
({edidsemiprotected}) it says that "alfred blackmailed superman into taking the doctor from gotham to paris"
however the doctor is in paris and has to be taken to gotham, it should read, "alfred blackmailed superman into taking the doctor from paris to gotham.
Martynross2 ( talk) 20:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Dan Didio has said the title has been put on hiatus: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/020913-DiDio20.html 12.37.71.139 ( talk) 20:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
One theory I've seen discussed on messageboards and the like, though not from a citeable source, is that the series is tongue-in-cheek and deliberately intended to fit the "so bad it's good" mold. That's also the impression I myself get when reading it, though that may just be because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate. Has this interpretation appeared anywhere that Wikipedia can reasonably cite? Because if so, it's the closest the "reception" section is going to come to being balanced. 99.16.198.149 ( talk) 09:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
All Star Batman and Robin has been cancelled with a new miniseries coming out to finish the story. http://www.newsarama.com/comics/all-star-boy-wonder-100402.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.4.185 ( talk) 03:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Look, I'd edit it myself but this article is locked, so can we get a mention of this /\? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.4.185 ( talk) 02:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
The DK:BW subsection of the article is now out-of-date. DC solicits its February offerings via Diamond Comic Distributors in November. Newsarama's full list of DC's February solicitations ( http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-february-2011-solicitations-101115.html) does not have any mention of ASBRBW or DK:BW. That means it's simply not coming out in February. A brief line like "However, DC's order solicitations for February 2011 carried no mention of the series" would be sufficient to update this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.170.59.139 ( talk) 22:09, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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